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I am surprised vilegit.com hasn't been snapped up by VI purists

DJP, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

I am a vim purist but I stopped haranguing people about it 10 years ago

silby, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

Some helpful but less-trafficked git commands that I use:

git ls-files -m

Outputs a nice list of modified files, useful when I want to run a linter on these files which are all over the repo.

git add -p /path/to/file

If I have a bunch of changes in a file but I only want to commit some of them, this command brings up a shell that lets you pick and choose which changes to commit.

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

My most recent git discovery was -v on git commit (which I’ve now made the default behaviour). It appends the diff (along with the list of staged and unstaged files) in your editor when you edit the commit message. It’s in the commented bit so it doesn’t go in the commit message but it’s useful to refer to, and most useful for catching stuff you shouldn’t be committing.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:48 (three years ago) link

Oh, nice!

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:53 (three years ago) link


git add --patch whatever.js

is essential for a hygienic commit log

diamonddave85​​ (diamonddave85), Friday, 8 May 2020 03:31 (three years ago) link

Thanks for the reminder! Any pro tips for using stash?

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 May 2020 14:46 (three years ago) link

I always forget stash options so I have to look it up every time:

https://stackoverflow.com/a/10726185
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/3573623/is-it-possible-to-preview-stash-contents-in-git

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Friday, 8 May 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

Thanks. Have also started using “git stash push” so that I don’t stash everything, just the files that are causing a merge conflict, say.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 May 2020 15:16 (three years ago) link

Wow just found out you can stash hunks as well.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 May 2020 15:17 (three years ago) link

If that's what you're into.

Judd Apatowsaurus (Leee), Friday, 8 May 2020 16:41 (three years ago) link

Lol

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 May 2020 16:46 (three years ago) link

And now I have an even dorkier d/n.

git stash hunks (Leee), Friday, 8 May 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

If only!

I'm learning tmux now!

git stash hunks (Leee), Friday, 8 May 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link

[
git add --patch whatever.js
]

is essential for a hygienic commit log

D
Remembered to use this, thanks.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 May 2020 14:40 (three years ago) link

i visit this page once or twice a month:

https://sethrobertson.github.io/GitFixUm/fixup.html

a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Monday, 11 May 2020 14:44 (three years ago) link

neat

silby, Monday, 11 May 2020 14:45 (three years ago) link

I decided at some point that I hated trying to remember command line options and started using GitExtensions as my Git IDE; I have never looked back.

DJP, Monday, 11 May 2020 15:27 (three years ago) link

Sourcetree is nice on Mac.

not found anything decent on linux yet. and the one i did like (gitg) lost a lot of the things i liked about it from one version to the next (and gets confused by binary files, like 100% cpu confused)

koogs, Monday, 11 May 2020 15:43 (three years ago) link

(svn is generally better for my use case anyway - large document, lots of tiny changes - than git anyway because it stores the diffs and not a complete copy of each like git does*. i had a git directory that was 40x the size of the original document once)

(* git will compress eventually, i'm told, and i'm sure i could force it to happen faster than it does, but svn does it by default)

koogs, Monday, 11 May 2020 15:47 (three years ago) link

We onboarded a new hire recently who came from a bootcamp, and I realized that of our entire engineering team at the local office (we have presences in multiple regions), only our VP and lead security guy and our worst (by far) developer have CS degrees. That leaves a director, a devops lead (who has an EE degree), and two senior engineers (including me).

Gazelle Bundchen (Leee), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:50 (three years ago) link

Actually the other senior eng has an interdisciplinary degree that can definitely fall under the CS heading.

Gazelle Bundchen (Leee), Friday, 22 May 2020 21:56 (three years ago) link

aren't you the one who was trained not to say 'onboarded' though

j., Friday, 22 May 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link

Me? Not that I remember!

Gazelle Bundchen (Leee), Friday, 22 May 2020 22:36 (three years ago) link

well obviously not now, you've been corrupted

j., Friday, 22 May 2020 22:40 (three years ago) link

As long as we're talking jargon, yall have permission to FP me if ever use these:

- solutioning
- grow (i.e. grow a business)

My god I use a lot of these I have become that which I hated: https://www.trustradius.com/buyer-blog/27-most-annoying-business-buzzwords-of-2019-explained

Gazelle Bundchen (Leee), Friday, 22 May 2020 23:23 (three years ago) link

"double click"

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 23 May 2020 02:53 (three years ago) link

Is the word “wheelhouse” in that list?

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 May 2020 02:54 (three years ago) link

Ha, of course it is

Spocks on the Run (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 May 2020 03:45 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

remote pairing with a TDD pedant is killing me.

he writes a test, i write something that implements it (there's a huge clear spec so i know what needs to be done exactly, this is also not the first of these we've done), the change is literally 7 lines - i set a flag in the constructor, test that flag in a later method and call skip() twice if it's true.

"That commit doesn't really feel like the minimum required to make the test pass. It's jumping ahead too far."

yes, because if you insist on backwards and forwards a line at a time then we'll still be writing this when the 2024 olympics rolls around.

seventeen years in startups before this job. the whole thing would be done in a day and just as solid.

koogs, Friday, 10 July 2020 12:32 (three years ago) link

ffs

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 10 July 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link

you must now reveal the truth -- the commit itself was a test. and you've good news: they passed. make a certificate, print it out, and mail it.

the warm seafood salad that exists (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

the certificate should say "Top Asshole" of course

the warm seafood salad that exists (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:34 (three years ago) link

our JUnit stuff is so ramshackle, it's almost not worth doing it at all. either the tests aren't meaningful or they're designed to break on every change. most of them make no sense at all.

frogbs, Friday, 10 July 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link

I’m not saying it’s impossible to write tests but I can tell you I don’t know how to do it

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 10 July 2020 16:51 (three years ago) link

i like writing tests very early. it speeds certain things up a ton IME. i can see the appeal of writing tests _first_ but i never actually do it myself. but TDD goes beyond that.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:11 (three years ago) link

that said: all js testing frameworks are dogshit, and i miss pytest.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:12 (three years ago) link

Static typing is my god now.

all cats are beautiful (silby), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

TDD* seems inefficient as a concept at the best of times, constantly overwriting tests and implementations. seems like pussyfooting towards something you could just rattle off.

probably wouldn't be so painful if we were sat together but the remote working aspect means i don't even know whether he's there! or whether i'm waiting for him to get back from lunch / meeting.

(*Test Driven Dev, not Top Down Design. too many acronyms, not enough alphabet)

koogs, Friday, 10 July 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

> Static typing is my god now.

nasa swear by it. and yet java has just introduced 'var'.

koogs, Friday, 10 July 2020 17:20 (three years ago) link

I'm a big fan of TDD, even though I don't adhere to it strictly (I don't write every test covering every scenario off the bat). I guess overtesting is technically possible, but I don't see how high coverage can be a bad thing? Like if what you're testing is trivial, then the test should also be trivial.

AxoLOLtl (Leee), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link

coverage is orthogonal to TDD

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

"That commit doesn't really feel like the minimum required to make the test pass. It's jumping ahead too far."

^^^ TDD

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 July 2020 17:50 (three years ago) link

What? That sounds antithetical to my understanding of TDD.

AxoLOLtl (Leee), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

TDD as I understand it:

- write tests before you write code
- write only enough tests to prove the code works for your use case's defintion of "works"
- stop writing code immediately when these tests pass

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link

I agree with point 1 (though the practice and theory can be pretty distant IME), point 2 seems nebulous, but point 3 seems like an uncharitable interpretation.

AxoLOLtl (Leee), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

since we do mostly services, our version of test-driven is we do OpenApi (swagger, whatever) definitions of the API, someone writes tests against that spec (call a url, validate the returned data is in the expected format and schema, no errors returned) and someone else can code the service at the same time

so you can set up static endpoints with both good/bad data to make sure your tests work properly and then when the actual service is ready you just point it over there and run

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

integration tests are only good for spotting erroneous changes and regressions imo, good for big infrastructural open source projects

testing code with artificial things is a pain in the ass

solo scampito (mh), Friday, 10 July 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link


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