I mean, they might bond over having gone to the same Grateful Dead show and then one would ask wtf a smartphone was
― mh, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:38 (four years ago) link
xp otm
and a 60 year old in 1970 would have a shitload more grandkids, demographically
Ya. Some things are specific to eras and some things are specific to stages of life. Seems like the 2 get conflated.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:41 (four years ago) link
fuck you mh
― Dan S, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:51 (four years ago) link
seems more likely to me that a 28 year old might understand a lot of a 40 year old's experiences, but a 28 year old to a 60 year old, nah.
my memories of my twenties have, understandably faded somewhat in the face of further decades of urgent, often difficult struggles, but on the whole it remains the decade where my entire adulthood was formed and many of my most important days were lived out -- compared to which, whatever popular culture was doing at the time pales to insignificance.
the problems I faced and my attempts at solutions are what really mattered. if you think that the problems of people in their twenties today are of a completely different quality than in the 1970s, well, that is what each generation thinks to some extent. it wasn't as different to those in their midst.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 03:52 (four years ago) link
any given any year old can understand or not understand anything
that this mode of thought continues as a thinkpoint distresses me
― kim rong un (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 09:43 (four years ago) link
deems, you're not far removed from 28, now, aren't you? sorry if I stepped on your toes there. you seem like an understanding sort of fellow. I was after speaking in a general way.
― A is for (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link
not at all
im giving out to mh tbh
― kim rong un (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:50 (four years ago) link
tbph im not sure i even read the posts under the mh post i found objectionable
this happens a lot
i think it means i overtalked ye soz folks
― kim rong un (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link
generations aren't much use when employed on the level of individuals, it's a macro big picture thing. any given 60yo might be sympathetic to the economic plight of 25yos but that overlooks how the dynamics work on the big scale
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:16 (four years ago) link
yes
this is a good thing
― kim rong un (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 22:32 (four years ago) link
due to the protests i've recently been inundated with social media posts from 32-45 year olds exalting "gen z" and applying to them an essentialist laundry list of cartoonish personality traits and i don't think i can take another 10 years of this. it's just gonna keep happening over and over and over again, the same exact way and i don't want to be alive for it. at a certain point the exaltation becomes fetishistic, creepy - millennials applying traits that were bombastically attributed to them 5 years ago in a slightly more bombastic and self-assured manner. turns out zoomers are socially anxious (but it's funny), confrontational, woke, and they tip well - these have nothing to do with age, this is just how the standard twitter user with a commissioned fanart avi of themselves wants to be seen. stop projecting your idealized identity onto teenagers you weirdos! none of this is real you're just contributing to social media's drive to flatten humanity into a more flippable pancake
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
booming post
― dip to dup (rob), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:34 (three years ago) link
fuck, I should have said zooming
― dip to dup (rob), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:35 (three years ago) link
lol
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Saturday, 13 June 2020 20:36 (three years ago) link
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Saturday, June 13, 2020 4:33 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
to be fair gen x did it to millennials first
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Saturday, 13 June 2020 23:32 (three years ago) link
and the zoomers will do it to the yoomers/xoomers/xillennials/zilent generation/generation pepsi/whatever we settle on in 8-10 years
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 14 June 2020 01:51 (three years ago) link
what percentage of these posts include the line "the kids are alright"?
― jaymc, Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link
(17 year old e-girl makes a tik tok about communism) 35 year old leftist professor in bushwick: Methinks the kids are alright :) haha anybody know this girls age?— Patrick (@lunch_enjoyer) October 31, 2019
― pplains, Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link
Zoomer fetishism is weird because they’re alsoheavily influenced by Nazi twitch gamers.
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:12 (three years ago) link
that doesn't represent the zoomers I know
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:28 (three years ago) link
a whole thread about disparaging people who aren't your age
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link
the zoomers you know don't represent the zoomers you don't know
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link
agree, but
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link
I guess we're all thinking about general statements, I'm included
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link
"Comparing generations is a very easy, very useful way to understand culture. Generations comprise vast swaths of people all similar enough to be safely lumped together and discussed as a mass, almost as if they constituted a single individual. You can speak of a generation's values and even its beliefs. Most importantly, you can blame them for things."
treeship's original post really said it all
― Dan S, Sunday, 14 June 2020 02:43 (three years ago) link
Lotta "kids are alright" tweets tonight.
― jaymc, Sunday, 21 June 2020 05:30 (three years ago) link
None of us really understand zoomers as a generality (including people who are parents to zoomers). Feel like you have to be of a gen to really fucking get it y'know. Like for all I hate and stereotype boomers and gen x and have grown up on their cultural products etc. I dont really know them and zoomers havent had the time to end up being the establishment, most of us wont live to see that
― Rik Waller-Bridge (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 21 June 2020 06:23 (three years ago) link
I thought this was the sourdough generation
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 21 June 2020 06:41 (three years ago) link
Not me I hate those guys every last one of them
― never mind that shit, here comes scampo (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 21 June 2020 21:09 (three years ago) link
Good morning Lorrie Moore has declared war??? pic.twitter.com/1dsb2yQHoF— Stephen Piccarella (@spiccarella) July 15, 2020
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 15 July 2020 16:39 (three years ago) link
i can see how the type of person who thinks BDSM was invented in 1983 would think these things
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Friday, 17 July 2020 02:56 (three years ago) link
She said the term was invented in 1983, then expressed some doubt about the extent the practice of BDSM existed prior to that. The doubt was unmerited, but there's no reason to make her sound more clueless than what she actually said.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Friday, 17 July 2020 03:20 (three years ago) link
i don't think moore is a generally clueless person and i've enjoyed a story or two of hers in the past. the point is that, like nearly all discourse around cultural generations over the past oh 60 years, the scope of the supplied bitter generalizations doesn't even extend beyond a small, privileged class of straw people - upper/upper-middle class, white, and in this specific case, heterosexual to the point where leather bars are thought to be a fairly recent invention
if these are the only people that make up your world then sure go off i guess. what's the point in even reacting to this stuff, it's just kayfabe entertainment for a very specific brand of person
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Friday, 17 July 2020 04:20 (three years ago) link
i do love the "millennials had harry potter boomers had old yeller" line - my boomer mom once told me that in high school every girl walked around with a copy of catcher in the rye and every boy walked around with a copy of lord of the rings
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Friday, 17 July 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link
yeah this is ludicrous, I mean They seem like nice people. But not normal. is a wholly deranged thing to say about a whole "generation"
― rob, Friday, 17 July 2020 15:07 (three years ago) link
She's right about one thing though, millennial's music kinda sucks, if you're talking about the new music their generation likes. They do have excellent taste in old music, though.
― o. nate, Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:08 (three years ago) link
Gen X musical taste is more offensive than either boomers or millennials
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:10 (three years ago) link
Gen Z who knows but 100 gecs are pretty cool
Fair enough. Whatever the generation was that was making music in the '70s and early '80s. That was the best time for music.
― o. nate, Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:21 (three years ago) link
Generations schmenerations but Lorrie Moore rules and her sentences are great whether true or false
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link
100 gecs are pretty cool
This group is my "your taste is garbage - never talk to me about art or culture again" litmus test.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:26 (three years ago) link
Lorrie Moore is kind of overrated IMHO. I read Alice Munro for my uptight boomer fiction
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link
But yeah, she can go off all she wants and she'll be dead soon, and many of those who will ever care about what she did will soon follow. It's like great yr bitter that you lack understanding of contemporary culture, you could also shit the fuck up
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:31 (three years ago) link
Don't break your hip, grandpa
― Donald Trump Also Sucks, Of Course (milo z), Saturday, 18 July 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link
money machine is one of the greatest songs/videos ever
― Dan S, Saturday, 18 July 2020 02:05 (three years ago) link
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Friday, July 17, 2020 6:29 PM (thirty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
otm. i think who will run the frog hospital is great tho. her more annoying stylistic tics started outweighing the good stuff circa gate at the stairs imo, and i found bark nigh-unreadable
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 18 July 2020 02:19 (three years ago) link
When I say Lorrie Moore is great I am not talking about "Gate at the Stairs" any more than when I say REM is great I am talking about "Reveal," and yes, Alice Munro is better, but if I didn't read anyone who wasn't as good as Alice Munro I would barely read
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 18 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link
i have no idea who any of these people are -- except for REM and older generations' favorite young adult "climate activist Greta Thunberg" -- i remember seeing the movie of Old Yeller in 2nd grade on monthly movie day, the month after they showed us Free to Be You And Me ... this was a few years before FTBY&M star, and noteworthy Boomer, Michael Jackson became known as a pedophile ...
― sarahell, Thursday, 23 July 2020 02:17 (three years ago) link