Mega Mega Vote Thing - UNDERWORLD (Smith/Hyde) in ILM Artist Poll #102 - Campaigning, Discussion, Equivocating until 22nd May

oh Mother Earth (FM Mix) is another that's not on streaming

Drift and Riverrun to be ranked as albums...... i'm gonna need a spreadsheet

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5qIqg9x4lKvq1DR4BKFXdX

here's an attempt at a playlist of their non-album material pre-A Hundred Days Off. a few tracks like "Ramajama" and "The Big Meat Show" were from that era though unreleased at the time. i haven't included any of the demos or jams from the deluxe editions and tried to keep the "remixes" to the Underworld-authored ones that are most distinctively different from the originals and not just extended mixes or radio edits or slightly different arrangements but please let me know if there's one i've missed that's also on streaming. i might make a youtube playlist for as much of the rest as i can find later

i do wanna rep for "i'm a big sister, and i'm a girl, and i'm a princess, and this is my horse" which i went to sleep to for a few months

the whole EP is great but "Wedge"/"Showlder" is really some of the most gorgeous music I've ever heard in my life

i think only frogbs will back me up in thinking oblivion with bells is their best album. idk every song hits

it's definitely in my top 3, which place I don't really know yet

imo the 3 best are dubnobass, OWB, and Drift Sampler (doesn't seem fair to rank a 6 hour release among everything else so idk yet how I'm gonna rank that) in some order

i don't really have any idea how any of the riverrun EPs are really split off beyond the few tracks they released separately

Drift and Riverrun to be ranked as albums...... i'm gonna need a spreadsheet

A three-track album that's 90 minutes long, and a fifty-ish-track one that's six hours long. Easy!

"Ramajama" and "The Big Meat Show" were from that era though unreleased at the time. i haven't included any of the demos or jams from the deluxe editions

I was counting Ramajama as one of the demos from the deluxe Fish. No other release apart from the Darren Price mix posted to Soundcloud last month, right?

idk i was counting it as different from the demos since it didn't have the same annotations in the track title, taking that to mean it was a more finished track they just never released until the BC deluxe reissue. who really knows what the distinction is though

i really don't think i'm going to get through any of the boxset jams/demos etc. unless anyone has some favourites to recommend. they really have so much out there

They're not eligible, so save them for later!

UNDERWORLD MK II ERA

Rez • [1993 12"] 9:58

Why, Why, Why • [1993 12" b-side] 12:24
Why Why Why? [Volume remix 1993] • [comp exclusive] 5:16
Why Why Why? [Volume Wasted remix 1993] • [comp exclusive] 8:20

Spikee • [1993 12"] 12:33
Dogman Go Woof • [1993 12"] 12:15

Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You • [1993 12", also on dubnob 1994] 13:10
Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (Telegraph 16.11.92) • [1993 remix / b-side] 7:09
Mmm...Skyscraper I Love You (Jam Scraper) • [1993 remix / b-side] 9:15

Dark & Long • 7:35
Dark & Long (Hall's) • [aka 7" - remix by Steven Hall] 4:10
Dark Train • [aka Dark & Long (Dark Train)] 9:55
Dark Hard • [aka Dark & Long (Dark Hard)] 11:34
Most 'Ospitable • [aka Dark & Long (Most 'ospitable)] 5:56
Burts • [aka Dark & Long (Burts)] 8:48
215 Miles • [aka Dark & Long (215 Miles)] 20:07

Surfboy • dubnobasswithmyheadman [1994] 7:34
Spoon Deep • [aka Dark & Long (Spoon Deep) - faster remix of Surfboy, not D&L] 17:59

Thing In A Book • [aka Dark & Long (Thing In A Book), but another distinct track] 20:15
Second Hand • [reworking of Thing In A Book for Cafe Del Mar] 9:01

Spoonman • dubnobasswithmyheadman [1994] 7:42
Tongue • dubnobasswithmyheadman [1994] 4:50
River Of Bass • dubnobasswithmyheadman [1994] 6:26

Cowgirl • dubnobasswithmyheadman [1994] 8:29
Cowgirl (Irish Pub In Kyoto Mix) • [remix] 11:46
Cowgirl (Winjer Mix) • [remix, related to Underworld's remix of Lush by Orbital] 6:25

Born Slippy • [1995 single, later released as "original instrumental version"] 8:32

. NUXX • [aka Born Slippy .NUXX [various lengths inc:]] 11:46
Born Slippy NUXX (2003 12" Version) • [remix by Rick] 7:04
Born Slippy NUXX (Down Version) • [2003 ambient mix by Rick] 4:55
Slow Slippy • [2017 Trainspotting 2 restretch] 3:50
Long Slow Slippy • [2017 single restretch] 11:51

Deep Pan • [aka Born Slippy .NUXX (Deep Pan)] 9:59
.TELEMATIC • [aka Born Slippy .TEL EMATIC] 9:40

oh Dark & Long (215 Miles) is another missing from streaming that i forgot about.

UWMKII: SECOND

Juanita • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996]
Juanita (Promo Short Cut) • [1997 promo] 3:49
Kiteless • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996]
To Dream Of Love • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996]
Banstyle / Sappy's Curry • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996] 15:23
Air Towel • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996] 7:37
Airtowel A2778 Live Jam for Web Dec 2000 • [streamed 2000, released 2019] 10:20
Blueski • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996] 3:03
Stagger • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996] 7:37

Confusion The Waitress • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996] 6:47
Confusion The Waitress (Remix) • [mix by Emerson] 7:29
Mosaic • [1996 b-side related to CFW] 5:00

Rowla • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996] 6:31
Cherry Pie • [early Rowla iteration released as Pearl's b-side] 8:25
Rowla (Long Version) • [12" 1996] 8:24

Pearl's Girl • Second Toughest In The Infants [1996] 9:37
Pearl's Girl (short) • [single 1996] 4:25
Pearl's Girl (Tin There) • [1996 b-side] 8:16, also
Tin There • [various Wipeout 2097 Soundtrack edits 1996]
Pearl's Girl (14996 Version) • [1996 b-side] 9:05
Pearl's Girl (Carp Dreams... Koi) • [1996 b-side] 10:09

Oich Oich • [1996 b-side] 8:35
Deep Arch • [1996 b-side] 8:25
Puppies • [1996 b-side] 3:54

Oh • [1997 A Life Less Ordinary OST] 5:51

Moaner • [1997 Batman track / single] 10:21
Moaner (short version) • [1997 single] 4:08
Moaner (Relentless Legs Mix) • [1997 remix] 10:12
Moaner [BF album version] • [1999 edit for Beaucoup Fish] 7:41

Are You Rockstar • [broadcast on satellite 1997, on livestream 2008, exact same version released as download 2019] 4:55

i object to splitting up "Juanita : Kiteless : To Dream of Love" though, it's one big piece and i'd have a tough time telling you exactly which part is which, especially since "Juanita/Kiteless" from Everything Everything is a significant enough rearrangement.

"Cherry Pie" should have been on the album instead of "Rowla"

but like... what a track "Juanita : Kiteless : To Dream of Love" is. i think Second Toughest is a little inconsistent as an album but it hardly matters when it opens with that followed by another 15 minute epic.

yeah, I only tweaked that yesterday (after poking at this for months) bcz the single "Juanita" version exists, and the titling of J : K : TDOL vs Banstyle/Sappy's convinced me that the band intended the two suites to read as 1. three pieces or movements, vs 2. two versions of a piece. If folks vote for it as one piece, I'll reflect that in the tally.

Tin There is totally a version of Pearls (or at least wholly derived from that drum pattern), but so many people came to the band via Wipeout that I wanted to honour its other life.

wow "Thing in a Book" rules

it does!

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLxWLJazbXOaluH99S3_FgWInzNemME8RN

and here is a youtube playlist of every track through Beaucoup Fish that's missing from streaming, including radio edits etc.

the only ones that aren't even on youtube are the following:
Why Why Why (Remix) (from Wasted, The Best of Volume Part 1, 1995)
Push Upstairs (Radio Edit)
King of Snake (Straight (Mate) Mix) (there's a shorter version cut out of someone's dj mix but nothing else)

UWmkII: more, finish

Push Upstairs (The Full Length Of It) • [1998 single] 6:10
Push Upstairs [album version] • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 4:34
Push Upstairs (The Large Unit) • [1998 remix] 5:39
Push Downstairs • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 6:04

King Of Snake (original version) • [1999 single] 8:55
King Of Snake (Straight (Mate) Mix) • [1999 remix] 3:54
King Of Snake (Barking Mix) • [1999 remix] 3:56
King Of Snake (Rickʼs Bungalow Mix) • [1999 remix] 8:48
Shudder / King Of Snake [album version] • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 9:32


Cups • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 11:45
Winjer • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 4:29
Skym • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 4:09
Kittens • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 7:31
Something Like A Mama • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 6:38

Bruce Lee • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 4:42
Bruce Lee (Short) • [1999 single] 2:58
Bruce Lee (Dobropet) • [1999 remix] 4:11

Jumbo • Beaucoup Fish [1999] 6:58
Jumbo [extended anthology version] • [comp exclusive] 9:12

Please Help Me • [1999 b-side] 7:35

8 Ball • [2000 The Beach OST] 8:55

good morning

you bring light in

UNDERWORLD MK III ERA

Two Months Off • [2002 single & A Hundred Days Off] 9:08

Dinosaur Adventure 3D • A Hundred Days Off [2002] 7:56
Dinosaur Adventure 3D (R.C.M. Version) • [2003 remix] 8:09

Twist • A Hundred Days Off [2002] 6:24
Twist (Music Bank Jam Take 7) • [rehearsal version of live arrangement recorded 2005, released 2019] 10:46

Mo Move • A Hundred Days Off [2002] 6:54
Sola Sistim • A Hundred Days Off [2002] 6:26
Little Speaker • A Hundred Days Off [2002] 8:38
Trim • A Hundred Days Off [2002] 3:23
Ess Gee • A Hundred Days Off [2002] 2:22
Ballet Lane • A Hundred Days Off [2002] 3:39
Luetin • A Hundred Days Off [2002] 7:00

Tiny Clicks • [2002 b-side] 2:16
Headset • [2002 b-side] 5:59
Like A Swimmer • [2003 b-side] 5:26
Ansum • [2003 b-side] 16:17

020202 (Old Mix) • [2002 track, released 2008] 6:04
020202 (New Mix) • [remix released 2008] 6:35

Biro The Leggy (Romford Dub) • [performed live from 2000, on broadcasts from 2004, Romford Dub version recorded 2006 & released as download 2019] 9:43

Small Conker And A Twix • [performed live over many years (& included as part of You Do Scribble on Live In Tokyo), released as download 2019] 5:17



Riverrun 1: Lovely Broken Thing [2005]
JAL To Tokyo
Billy Goat
Peggy Sussed
Dub Shepherd
Lenny Penne
Monkey Wink
Witness

Riverrun 2: Pizza For Eggs [2005]
Food a Ready
Back in the Fears
Vanilla Monkey - Flatz
Ancient Phat Farm Coat
Play Pig

Riverrun 3: I'm a Big Sister, and I'm a Girl, and I'm a Princess, and This Is My Horse [2006]
Peach Tree
Mowed Path
Showlder
Wedge
11 Hundred Hz

various other versions exist of many Riverrun tracks




Crocodile • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 6:32
Beautiful Burnout • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 8:11
Holding the Moth • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 5:31
Ring Road • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 4:33
Glam Bucket • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 5:48
Boy, Boy, Boy • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 6:07
Cuddle Bunny vs The Celtic Villages • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 2:24
Faxed Invitation • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 4:46
Good Morning Cockerel • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 2:30
Best Mamgu Ever • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 9:12


To Heal • Oblivion With Bells [2007] 2:38
To Heal (And Restore Broken Bodies) • [2008 Songs For Tibet exclusive] 4:59

Loads Of Birds • [Japanese exclusive 2007] 5:30

Sydney Hotel Room Peal • [2006, released as download 2019] [credited as 2008 in notes, but appears to have been slowed down to turn into Primrose Hill from Breaking & Entering OST (2006)] 14:13

Phonestrap 1 • Phonestrap [2008] 1:59
Phonestrap 2 • Phonestrap [2008] 2:02
Phonestrap 3 • Phonestrap [2008] 2:02
Phonestrap 4 • Phonestrap [2008] 2:31
Phonestrap 5 • Phonestrap [2008] 2:16
Phonestrap 6 / Autotrader 4 • Phonestrap [2008] 7:10

Parc • [from The Bells The Bells, 2008 Japanese exclusive comp - live versions titled Darc also released] 4:17

totally recommend "Parc" if you haven't heard it, one of their best B-sides. kinda surprised it didn't made OWB

that said I feel like it was maybe never finished

Pearl's Girl (Tin There) • [1996 b-side] 8:16, also
Tin There • [various Wipeout 2097 Soundtrack edits 1996][i]

Going to stunt for the latter of these two. It's much less blown out, but I dig its strict crescendo-decrescendo symmetry better than the [i]Pearls Girl version's variations.

that said I feel like it was maybe never finished

yeah, even Parc (made for a Japanese radio station, first broadcast May 2008) is remixed from this live performance of Darc in July 2005. They may have never even tried to do a studio version per se, and almost certainly weren't still working on it by the time of recording Oblivion.

The notes on Sydney Hotel Room Peal:

‘I remember when Rick first sent me this piece he’d written in his hotel room in Sydney back in 2008 (I seem to remember him taking his laptop into the fire-exit stairwell to listen to the natural reverb and getting very excited...). For many many years, it was my go-to piece for combating my insomnia. It was only this weekend, when I was talking to Rick about the track that I realised that was precisely what he wrote it for.’ (Mike Gillespie - UW manager)

maybe Primrose came first?

....

Just cuz they haven't been mentioned a lot yet.... Second Toughest and Barbara Barbara are going to be high on my ballot!

https://youtu.be/4izZYfo58-E

anyone new to Barbara, check the full version (and whole album) if this single edit does anything for you. I remember fans being pretty divided when this hit. I just loved it. Remember just being amazed they still had new directions left in them......... and then Drift!

wow "Mother Earth (FM Mix)" is fantastic, love that melancholy sax intro. significantly better than the album version

my favourite from Barbara, Barbara is "If Rah". luna luna luna luna luna!

in love with

tie strunky tape to it

I like Barbara except for the first two songs. Really love Twenty Three Blue, the Japanese bonus track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxELB8NMBWk

yeah that really should have been on there, it's not like there wasn't room for it.

maybe Primrose came first?

yeah, or the manager might have been given a track in 2008 that Rick had made years earlier, or been fiddling with Primrose to try and crack its soporific powers ever since.

"born slippy .nuxx" has to be their only track that actually works better in 4 minute radio edit form

like the full-length studio version just kinda meanders around without any clear direction to go in once it's bored of the vocals + that transcendent synth riff and even in the live versions where they bring the the riff back in eventually that's better but it doesn't really feel earned?

oh i just realised the Eno/Hyde stuff is eligible i love those records but i'd have no idea how to rank anything from them against underworld material

I'm embarking on a listen-through now, roughly drawing the line at no later-released variant mixes & no solo stuff / collaborations, however "no live" is a step too far, Everything Everything needs to be in there, and...? Is there anything obvious I'm missing out with this approach? Also I will absolutely be putting Doot-Doot in my top 10, sorry, unavoidable.

polling all this seems like rank madness to me and i won't play but i am loving listening to all this stuff so thanks guys

Live In Tokyo 25th November 2005 is a pretty essential listen even if sic isn't allowing votes for it

just come up with your top 77 tracks and then randomise their order Noodle


roughly drawing the line at no later-released variant mixes & no solo stuff / collaborations

I listed the two later NUXX revisits bcz they were singles, but I'll be surprised if anyone votes for them at all


however "no live" is a step too far, Everything Everything needs to be in there, and...?

Everything Everything is in there as an album, and ppl are welcome to add notes about favourite live versions of compositions to their ballots

Doot Doot needs no apology

it just plays best to me as one endless woosh of music, like the Autechre that probably doesn't annoy my neighbours as much

we're saying the same thing imo

nah i get ya

Voting for this (not high up), think it's obscure enough that a few people here won't have heard it, so here's the signal boost -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LDgHJq1LDw

Stoked for this.

And I think I'm right in assuming that once you've voted for 20 tracks you could, for example, have both Dark Train and Dark & Long in your Top 20?

And I guess Edgeland etc is admissible?

Everything Everything is in there as an album, and ppl are welcome to add notes about favourite live versions of compositions to their ballots

Anything that ensures that the version of "Juanita" that officially ranks is the album/single version gets my whole-hearted support.

will be surprised if that's not #1 tbh. An independent Rez will split the Cowgirl vote.

And I think I'm right in assuming that once you've voted for 20 tracks you could, for example, have both Dark Train and Dark & Long in your Top 20?

If you're nerdy enough to list 20 tracks at all, you unlock the power-up of listing multiple versions. If you really want to, you can then have your entire top eight be tracks that at some point were released on a CD with the words "Dark & Long" on the spine.

Are all the tracks being kept separate in this one sic?

As there's a much smaller pool seems it would be a big advantage to the songs that have 2 or 3 UW remixes if those votes were combined.

Baby Wants To Ride, Good Day Today and William's Last Words are covers and were in the last poll!

Yeah, keeping everything separate. I'm sure we'll have a much smaller voter pool too :)

Also, do you just need the track & remix name on the ballot or should we also include the artist?

copying and pasting from the above would be extremely helpful!

Will do.

And for clarification, I think for Cafe Del Mar it's:

Underworld Dub Heaven Mix 12:20
Underworld Mix Three 13:45
Underworld Mix 10:03

The 7:35 one is the Hip Hop mix (with the spoken vocals) and as far as I know nothing to do with UW?

^ the Rosetta Stone! thanking you

The confusion arose because on the UK CD single the tracks were not only mislabeled but also in the wrong order (track 2 was actually the Hip Hop mix for example) and then with the advent of P2P sharing those errors spread far and wide (and are still incorrect on many soulseek results even today)

https://img.discogs.com/1WTN2ABoiV2xeF6QSFO5ldKnZeU=/fit-in/600x506/filters:strip_icc():format(jpeg):mode_rgb():quality(90)/discogs-images/R-279397-1551019400-5840.jpeg.jpg

Are there any other eligible tracks outside of the 42 above?

Emerson did a few Underwater ones in 96 (so not really UW) but there's the Massive Attack one from 97 which was listed as "Darren Emerson for Underworld Mix"

I included Rick's and Emerson's solo remixes, and Karl &/or Rick's outside-Underworld guest spots, in the zip files in the other thread (which had a two-week expiry, so might be gone by now). Anything anyone cares to vote for is fine, but I figure these as the ~canonical~ '90s Underworld remixes.

oh boy! i've been a little off ilx for the past week due to "trying to actually focus on work" reasons so i haven't' hopped back on this thread but i will try to listen to some remixes and put together a ballot this week! 10th of july should be totally doable, i'll just pick a day and give a 1 or 0 to every track then relisten to the 1s and rank em. A LITTLE GLIMPSE INTO MY PROCESS 4 U

One ballot received!

Lol

Planning on sending mine in later

aaaaah midnight what timezone? I should manage.. I've listened to it all at least once, I'll go back through later on.

Also sic, do you want the full text copied from your list (ie including year of release and track length) or just the artist and track name bit?

copying the whole thing is easier for you folks so go with that!

it can be a loose, rolling midnight, but I'll consider it a wild success if five people bother to vote tbh

we have now received: two ballots

moderate success

looking forward to the rollout

Any chance groovyp, Brad, cheek or Will (or anyone else who asked for a remix poll ahead of time) can get a rough ballot done in the next day?

yeah unfortunately it will prob not happen

Is mine not one of the two then (as I emailed it on Friday)?

oh whoops three ballots! most of the voters have the same first name

gissa top ten Brad :)

heckit, I'll make the deadline this Friday if that helps, it's not like anyone's really clamouring for the rollout (and it'll be quick & easy to tally)

funny. usually my given name of Groovy Will makes me pretty inconspicuous.

ack sorry! i have been spending as little time as possible in front of the computer lately due to the heat so i completely shat the bed on this. D:

i could hack something together for friday for sure! (i know i said that last time but it's not as hot now)

bumpin bumpin

here's the in-ear monitor cues the performers were receiving at the end of And I Will Kiss

results tomorrow!

Huzzah!