probably bullshit but who knows
Want some good baseball news?? I just heard from multiple sources that on June 10th, Spring Training 2 will start. July 1st will be Opening Day and all teams will be playing at their home ballparks. We’ll be discussing it in full on the next @TalkinBaseball_— Trevor Plouffe (@trevorplouffe) May 4, 2020
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 4 May 2020 22:51 (three years ago) link
for no reason, i'm watching the pine tar game.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvu_1JMY36k&list=PL9qa1Jiw7oNLoWf4OturkhsqawIbcTzOn&index=2
it's the yankees broadcast, with phil rizzuto and frank messer. i'd never heard either of them before. there are some awkward moments!!
it's interesting to watch, not knowing when the moment is going to happen. almost an hour and fifty minutes in now, in the bottom of the 7th.
a young hotshot named don mattingly just pinch-hit! it's going to be tough to figure out whether or not to send him down, once ken griffey gets back from the DL.
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:08 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvu_1JMY36k
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:09 (three years ago) link
also dave winfield crushed a HR early on, it was amazing. he also made some VERY bad plays in the OF.
jose martinez: actually about as good in the OF as dave winfield??
was so hilarious to hear phil rizutto trash wade boggs as "contact only", before pointing to his lack of RBIs
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:12 (three years ago) link
wade boggs was a goddamned hero
HERE COMES THE GOOSE
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:31 (three years ago) link
never knew the bit about gaylord perry snatching the book off the field!
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:41 (three years ago) link
ha! and when they resume the game, ken griffey is back, and mattingly's at second! classicbaseball.com
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:46 (three years ago) link
"it's being played under protest, we just got the sign, there it is, the peace sign, from the plate umpire, in this case that george maloney that billy martin has protested this ballgame."
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:50 (three years ago) link
the crowd is wasted
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:52 (three years ago) link
in multiple dimensions of time
i was born 2 months before this game. i was pooping my pants DURING this game
lol that the umpires from the first game signed an affadavit indicating that brett touched all four bases on his home run trot, foiling martin's plan to destroy the royals with dastardly logic. fuck you martin! seriously
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:55 (three years ago) link
also - *passes out* - mattingly comes to bat in the bottom of the 9th, and in a bizarre circumstance, has a chance to create a 25-game hitting streak out of nowhere. apparently, the pine tar game was the only one out of 25 games where he didn't get a hit. so in the resumption of the game, he has a chance to fill in that gap in the hitting streak by getting a hit. he makes great contact, but it doesn't fall in (same deal with his earlier pinch hit appearance, actually).
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 04:58 (three years ago) link
https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2020/5/6/21248854/the-joy-and-anxiety-of-watching-kbos-return
baumann on watching the KBO
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link
i'd never heard either of them before.
Rizzuto, besides being comically inattentive, had some of his freeform musings compiled into a 'poetry' book. Yankee haters listened for the lols.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:48 (three years ago) link
i didn't even know he was an announcer after his playing days. and doing play-by-play, to boot! usually the ex-players are color commentary guys, it seems
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
Those broadcasts suffered a blow when Scooter left...he started doing fewer and fewer innings, and just leaving sometimes in like the middle of the 5th inning w/o telling anybody incl. Bill White
He was enflesslessly entertaining. One of my favorites was when he said nobody will ever forget where they were the day Joe D's hitting streak began
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:19 (three years ago) link
late in his career they would insert a long shot of the GW bridge would begin Scooter's trek home to New Jersey...around the 6th inning.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
Yankee telecast, circa mid 80s, as Rickey Henderson slides into second with a double (Bill White, if you don't know, is black):
PHIL RIZZUTO: Boy, that Rickey is so graceful... He's like Fred Astaire! Or Bill "Bojangles" Robinson.
BILL WHITE: Now, is he more like Fred Astaire, or Bojangles?(pause)
RIZZUTO: Awww White, you huckleberry! (both laugh heartily)
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, August 17, 2004
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 21:23 (three years ago) link
he was no ralph kiner
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 6 May 2020 23:35 (three years ago) link
Huckleberry! Everybody was a huckleberry.
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 7 May 2020 02:06 (three years ago) link
https://i2.wp.com/fullinbloom.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/valkilmerbook.jpg?resize=450%2C679
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 May 2020 02:44 (three years ago) link
wait what
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 7 May 2020 03:06 (three years ago) link
can the noncabled get a feed for these KBO games?
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:48 (three years ago) link
appears that they are streamed on twitch and on a korean app called naver, but either one likely requires a vpn
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/gf31ky/kbo_twitch_broadcast_links/
― mookieproof, Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:59 (three years ago) link
i don't think the twitch streams require a VPN (but i could be wrong).
they're listed here, at the bottom:
https://www.twitch.tv/search?term=kbo
and here's a direct link to one of the games: https://www.twitch.tv/kbo3/video/614666650
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Friday, 8 May 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link
sweet
― mookieproof, Friday, 8 May 2020 17:03 (three years ago) link
so, the draft is only going to be 5 rounds this year. things are going to get weird.
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/05/mlb-to-hold-5-round-draft.html
MLB has decided upon a five-round draft this summer, according to Jeff Passan and Kiley McDaniel of ESPN.com (links to Twitter). The union had previously agreed to the possibility of a draft as short as five rounds, though more recently had pushed for a lengthier process.Commissioner Rob Manfred laid down the decision when MLB and the MLBPA could not come to an agreement on the particulars. Interestingly, Passan notes, a ten-round draft was also preferred by baseball operations departments. The version on offer from the league would’ve effectively separated the draft into two five-round sections with greater spending limitations on the latter half, along with a cap on undrafted signings.Ultimately, it seems, owners were more concerned with avoiding the cost of additional bonuses than they were intrigued by the potential to acquire more high-end talent in the later stages of the draft. Draft-eligible players that are not selected in the five rounds will be eligible to sign for a maximum bonus of $20K.Teams may struggle to woo players they don’t select. Typically, later-round choices can be paid quite a bit more than $20K. With collegiate play a viable alternative, many will elect to await a (hopefully) more lucrative professional starting point.Then again, perhaps teams will find some success competing with geography, promises of advancement and opportunity, and other creative inducements. Manfred will no doubt need to be proactive in policing this arena. There’s huge potential upside to be had, which creates some potentially worrying incentives.Finding value in the draft has long been a chief aim of baseball ops departments. Now they’ll have never-before-seen chances to sign an unlimited number of players for bargain prices. That’ll involve recruitment, of course, but there’s a rare possibility for major imbalance in the talent haul.Even putting aside worries of rule-breaking behavior, there’ll be potential for havoc. Joel Sherman of the New York Post notes (Twitter link) the possibility of pressure on “late”-round picks to take what they can get or face a $20K cap. There’s also a sense that innumerable soft factors could sway large numbers of players in varying directions, as Chris Cotillo of MassLive.com notes on Twitter. There’ll certainly be downstream effects for players that choose to enter or remain in the collegiate and JuCo ranks.
Commissioner Rob Manfred laid down the decision when MLB and the MLBPA could not come to an agreement on the particulars. Interestingly, Passan notes, a ten-round draft was also preferred by baseball operations departments. The version on offer from the league would’ve effectively separated the draft into two five-round sections with greater spending limitations on the latter half, along with a cap on undrafted signings.
Ultimately, it seems, owners were more concerned with avoiding the cost of additional bonuses than they were intrigued by the potential to acquire more high-end talent in the later stages of the draft. Draft-eligible players that are not selected in the five rounds will be eligible to sign for a maximum bonus of $20K.
Teams may struggle to woo players they don’t select. Typically, later-round choices can be paid quite a bit more than $20K. With collegiate play a viable alternative, many will elect to await a (hopefully) more lucrative professional starting point.
Then again, perhaps teams will find some success competing with geography, promises of advancement and opportunity, and other creative inducements. Manfred will no doubt need to be proactive in policing this arena. There’s huge potential upside to be had, which creates some potentially worrying incentives.
Finding value in the draft has long been a chief aim of baseball ops departments. Now they’ll have never-before-seen chances to sign an unlimited number of players for bargain prices. That’ll involve recruitment, of course, but there’s a rare possibility for major imbalance in the talent haul.
Even putting aside worries of rule-breaking behavior, there’ll be potential for havoc. Joel Sherman of the New York Post notes (Twitter link) the possibility of pressure on “late”-round picks to take what they can get or face a $20K cap. There’s also a sense that innumerable soft factors could sway large numbers of players in varying directions, as Chris Cotillo of MassLive.com notes on Twitter. There’ll certainly be downstream effects for players that choose to enter or remain in the collegiate and JuCo ranks.
― porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 May 2020 17:16 (three years ago) link
MLB owners have approved a proposal for the 2020 season to present to the players’ union, source tells The Athletic. Meeting expected between union and league tomorrow.— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) May 11, 2020
― porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 May 2020 18:00 (three years ago) link
latest proposal, i think, was for teams of each geographic region to only play teams in their region. for example, an AL West team would only play AL West and NL West teams. 7 teams would make the playoffs in each league, with only the top team receiving a bye for the first round.
― porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Monday, 11 May 2020 18:01 (three years ago) link
I don't know why they don't just write this season off. (I do know why: money.) Winning a title won't mean anything. I guess the counting-stats are important to possible outer-circle HOF-ers (I can think of a few players '94 hurt in that regard: Lofton, Cone, etc.), but there are a lot of hoops to jump through to salvage a mess. Doesn't some kind of insurance kick in? It did during the strike years.
― clemenza, Monday, 11 May 2020 21:52 (three years ago) link
union already hates the proposal, views 'revenue-sharing' as a salary cap
considering the way it's being framed (already) in the press, i don't think this is ground the union should want to fight on. it may not even be united on the matter, as long as the provisions cover just this season. they'd be better off focusing on the still-extremely-vague health and testing protocols
otoh, if you're gonna be guaranteed a certain percentage, one would assume that you'd get to look at the books in depth
― mookieproof, Monday, 11 May 2020 22:23 (three years ago) link
fuck the press, the union and the owners agreed on payment a month ago and the owners are changing the deal last minute. why wouldn't they fight back on that? the union isn't beholden to public opinion, bob nightengale and his headline writers aren't a factor
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 06:38 (three years ago) link
mark teixeira says he would play for pennies on the dollar, (democratic) illinois governor slams players for 'holding out'
all v. cool
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 21:41 (three years ago) link
The billionaire governor, representing the people by supporting the owners
― porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 23:26 (three years ago) link
this doesn't seem like the move of an organization expecting to play anytime soon
About 40 percent of #Marlins baseball operations employees will be furloughed June 1, sources tell The Athletic. Total expected to be between 90 and 100. Team paying employees through May, expects to cover health benefits of those furloughed through October. Evaluating monthly.— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) May 13, 2020
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:36 (three years ago) link
(pittsburgh's own) art howe is in the icu with the rona
― mookieproof, Friday, 15 May 2020 02:49 (three years ago) link
Open-ended hospital stay for watching KBO.
Ravech and Perez are so Trumpist about having a season it's disgusting.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 16 May 2020 13:15 (three years ago) link
you alright?
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 May 2020 14:50 (three years ago) link
Art Howe has been hospitalized in a Houston ICU for the past 5 days. It's been 13 days since first feeling symptoms and he tried to recover at home.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 16 May 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link
get well soon, morbs
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:34 (three years ago) link
this is extremely detailed and complex to the point of seeming impossible. oh, and also ownership wants the players to take less money while assuming these risks
MLB today sent the players’ union a 67-page document on proposed health and safety protocols for the 2020 season. The Athletic obtained a copy. The highlights, from me and @EvanDrellich: https://t.co/lsCvmShbuQ— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) May 16, 2020
summed up here: https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29183345/mlb-safety-proposal-includes-10000-tests-per-week-social-distancing
stay \m/ morbs
― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 May 2020 18:50 (three years ago) link
so stupid the whole thing, just bag it
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 May 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link
Is it really going to be balm for the people to watch these games?
It makes me anxious just thinking about it.
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 16 May 2020 19:05 (three years ago) link
“ Tier 1 and 2 individuals would be discouraged from going to crowded bars.”
“Discouraged”?! Why the fuck would anyone playing professional sports need to go to any bar at all right now?!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:20 (three years ago) link
to pick up chicks, obv
― mookieproof, Saturday, 16 May 2020 20:59 (three years ago) link
Pro soccer starting up again in Europe gives me hope that we'll see baseball this year. MLB can see what works and what doesn't over there, learn from mistakes, and so on.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 17 May 2020 12:37 (three years ago) link
Alejandro Kirk?!?!
― Karl Malone, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 06:22 (three years ago) link
i like him
Some good arguments against playoffs expansion and mostly I agree with them but really it's been fun to watch that young Mariners team scuffle and try to make the post-season for the first time in 18 years.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 22 September 2020 17:39 (three years ago) link
the NL has five teams with a positive run differential
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:31 (three years ago) link
Something beautiful at how the Phillies are cratering despite the money spent and the prospects traded.
― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, 23 September 2020 00:40 (three years ago) link
Yeah, nothing like the heat of September baseball, waiting to see which mediocre team can stumble to a 4-3 week and edge out the competition. This is what will bring kids to the national pastime!— Joe Sheehan (@joe_sheehan) September 22, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 September 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link
Reds team batting average is like .214 and they are going to make the playoffs (maybe). Crazy thing is if Sonny Gray comes back and can pitch like he was earlier this year, they got a pretty decent 1-2 in a short series. As I said in the NL central thread, it will be hilarious and pretty good if the Reds somehow make the playoffs at .500 and knock out the Dodgers. That would be just deserts for the MLB. Have the NL championship series be like Cincy and SD.
I'm sure the public would love a San Diego and Tampa World Series!
― earlnash, Friday, 25 September 2020 00:11 (three years ago) link
I fucking would!
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 25 September 2020 00:12 (three years ago) link
the reds shall humiliate clayton kershaw in the 2020 NLCS, it is known
― Karl Malone, Friday, 25 September 2020 00:35 (three years ago) link
marlins making the playoffs is the future of baseball: kids too young to be expensive plus quad-a filler and some luck
-39 run differential? complain to old hoss
― mookieproof, Saturday, 26 September 2020 06:57 (three years ago) link
I think I am in favor of the robo umpire at this point. TV guys point out the differential every chance they get and maybe it makes sense to use technology in this case for the benefit of the players
― calstars, Saturday, 26 September 2020 20:19 (three years ago) link
Red Sox left-hander Eduardo Rodriguez has been cleared to resume light exercise and is expected to be able to follow a normal offseason conditioning program. The 27-year-old developed myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle) after testing positive for COVID-19 early this summer.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 September 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
What games you watching today?
I propose this week's thread be called FIRST-ROUND CLUSTERFUCK.
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 27 September 2020 20:33 (three years ago) link
Mattingly’s Marlins decapitating NY
― calstars, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:08 (three years ago) link
watching the cardinals clinch (i hope) against the brewers
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:29 (three years ago) link
Must be satisfying on some level for Don to beat his old team, maybe in a passive aggressive kind of way, a subtle F you to the franchise that may have caused him agita in ways we’ll never know
― calstars, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link
fact check: did "all of the owners lose money" by putting on a season this year? a certain idiotic broadcaster i know believes this to be true, but i have learned over the years that he is wrong about almost everything.
― Karl Malone, Sunday, 27 September 2020 21:45 (three years ago) link
no one knows, but i'm extremely skeptical. despite the uncertainty, someone just agreed to buy the mets for $2.5 billion, which doesn't even include their tv network. and if they can make money *without* fans in the stands, imagine what they earn in a normal year.
in any case, so what? businesses aren't owed an annual profit. they like to claim that their earnings are a reward for taking 'risks' -- well, here's your risk, assholes
― mookieproof, Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link
Im a diehard Brewers fan but lmao no way is having them in the playoffs good for the game. They were under .500 the entire year!!
― frogbs, Sunday, 27 September 2020 22:43 (three years ago) link
Owners make most of their money off the value of the franchise itself no? In that case, I don't see how MLB lost any value over the last 12 months.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 28 September 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link
Plus the TV deals weren't suddenly canceled.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 28 September 2020 00:26 (three years ago) link
― mookieproof, Saturday, September 26, 2020 2:57 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
Meh I'm here to watch good baseball, I couldn't care less if the owners/GMs could see the seismic shift in player evaluation and players didn't have time to adapt yet (they will in the next CBA). I'm not going to suddenly start watching the Red Sox because they are the 4th biggest payroll in baseball, and yeah, Sixto Sanchez is exciting.
― Van Horn Street, Monday, 28 September 2020 00:36 (three years ago) link
the one thing that's confusing to me is why the players never filed a grievance (apparently). they were constantly threatening to, it was their one bargaining chip and the general assumption was that they would win. manfred and the owners clearly weren't operating in good faith and dragged negotiations as long as they could before forcing the season. so what gives
― ✖, Monday, 28 September 2020 06:10 (three years ago) link
playoffs thread:
MLB general postseason 2020 thread
what a weird fucking year this has been
― Karl Malone, Monday, 28 September 2020 17:34 (three years ago) link
Tommy Pham was stabbed outside a strip club
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/sports/padres/story/2020-10-12/padres-tommy-pham-stabbing-hospital-san-diego-club
― na (NA), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 01:02 (three years ago) link
damn
― mookieproof, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
Oh god
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 01:07 (three years ago) link
He’s stable, for those I need to know before clicking the link.
― Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 October 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link
sorry should’ve specified he’s described as being in good condition
― na (NA), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 01:09 (three years ago) link
Much to unpack
― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 04:01 (three years ago) link
i'm honestly blown away people are going to strip clubs during a pandemic.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
Yeah as someone who lives on the other side of the same state and our city barely just reopened distanced outdoor dining, that article feels like it could have taken place on a different planet.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Tuesday, 13 October 2020 17:22 (three years ago) link
Dodger pitchers can't throw strikes anymore
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:18 (three years ago) link
ahhhh... Kershaw was a late scratch, typical.
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 00:19 (three years ago) link
2020: MLB announces partnership with Lysol, in part to work on how best to disinfect ballparks with fans expected back in 2021.From the press release: "Lysol products are also included in Postseason hotel welcome kits for players, staff and their families."— Bill Shaikin (@BillShaikin) October 14, 2020
― mookieproof, Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:23 (three years ago) link
Got COVID upall in your cup?LYSOL DOUCHE!!!!
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 14 October 2020 17:30 (three years ago) link
"i'm honestly blown away people are going to strip clubs during a pandemic"
It occurred to me this spring that having a staff Zoom call preparing for COVID reopening at a NJ "Badaboom" gentleman's club could be a funny setup for a comedy sketch.
― earlnash, Thursday, 15 October 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/health/story/2020-10-14/county-orders-san-diego-strip-club-to-cease-and-desist
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 15 October 2020 23:06 (three years ago) link