love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Kick his fucking head in

Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 4 May 2020 01:47 (three years ago) link

And, of course, The Bell Curve:

Some highlights in better resolution 🤮 pic.twitter.com/9M73JFehEf

— jewdⒶs // ייִדהודה (@jewdas) May 3, 2020

glumdalclitch, Monday, 4 May 2020 03:02 (three years ago) link

To defeat prejudice you have to understand it. https://t.co/tBLQAX0HDs

— Sarah Vine (@WestminsterWAG) May 3, 2020

The old Pete Townsend defence "I was just doing some research on the intellectual and psychological nature of holocaust deniers and fascist race-science cranks so I could understand them better"

calzino, Monday, 4 May 2020 09:01 (three years ago) link

Feel bad for calling Irving a dishonest nazi cunt now without having read him

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 May 2020 09:12 (three years ago) link

To defeat prejudice you have to shake its hand, vote in support of it, give it its own radio show and chip in as much as you can to its Patreon.

nashwan, Monday, 4 May 2020 09:30 (three years ago) link

This was the plan all along. By appearing in the Gove-Vine family bookshelf, David Irving's reputation has taken yet another disastrous blow.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) May 4, 2020

calzino, Monday, 4 May 2020 09:43 (three years ago) link

It’s fucking sickening, the amount of people queuing up to defend the right of a holocaust denier to free speech to own the left. Explains why so many are so comfortable sharing platforms with people featured in Anders Brevik’s manifesto. Fucking sick media.

gyac, Monday, 4 May 2020 09:48 (three years ago) link

It's actually very telling that she didn't think to take it off the shelf before taking the photo.

Also as an unrelated aside the absolute worst party I can recall going to was at a house where the bookshelves were 99% political biographies.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 May 2020 10:17 (three years ago) link

back in December Gove was steaming into Corbyn on Labour AS with a possessed vigour where it sounded like he might have been boozing and coking it. I think he even called him "evil" at some point.

calzino, Monday, 4 May 2020 10:19 (three years ago) link

It’s a troll. She’s a troll.

ShariVari, Monday, 4 May 2020 10:28 (three years ago) link

OTM, also Gove is always going to get an easy ride from journalists, he's one of them.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2020 10:29 (three years ago) link

lol some years ago i literally turned the spine of my Bill Clinton autiobiog around so that 1) i wouldn't have to see his face all the time 2) visitors would not see it

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 May 2020 10:31 (three years ago) link

"A close ally of Boris Johnson has resigned as a trade minister after being found to have used his position to try to intimidate a member of the public.

Conor Burns, the minister of state for trade policy, was found by the standards committee to have made veiled threats whilst attempting to intervene in his father’s dispute over a loan.

A Downing Street spokesman said Burns had resigned as a trade minister following a report from the parliamentary commissioner for standards. "

Matt DC, Monday, 4 May 2020 10:37 (three years ago) link

if only he had asked for Boris for some counsel on this matter first, he would have advised him to pay someone else to do the intimidation/leg-breaking, you never get involved in that stuff yourself fool!

calzino, Monday, 4 May 2020 10:52 (three years ago) link

If Labour aren't able to make hay over something like this then they're in real trouble.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 May 2020 10:55 (three years ago) link

i've gotta say using primary school children as canaries in the rona mine really captures the national mood

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 May 2020 10:58 (three years ago) link

The proposed reduction of the two-metre rule to one metre seems completely bananas.

ShariVari, Monday, 4 May 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

the virus is getting tired and can't travel as far

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 May 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link

Coronavirus: Plan to use private firm at centre of outsourcing scandal to run contact tracing attacked
Serco and other giant contractors likely to recruit 15,000 call centre staff - who could be given only one day’s training

A plan to use a private firm at the centre of an outsourcing scandal to help run the ‘test-and-trace’ system crucial to curbing Covid-19 has drawn criticism.

Labour hit out at ministers after it emerged that Serco – and probably other giant contractors such as G4S – will carry out most of the contact tracing work, by recruiting 15,000 call centre staff.

They will be given only about one day’s training in the principles of contact tracing, The Times reported, stating Serco was in “advanced talks”.

Last year, the outsourcing giant was fined £19.2m by the Serious Fraud Office as part of a settlement over an electronic tagging scandal, also paying £3.7m in costs.

Look, I know we bandy the phrase around a lot, but lol we're all going to die.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 May 2020 11:29 (three years ago) link

i've gotta say using primary school children as canaries in the rona mine really captures the national mood

I don't really know what can be done about this, losing six months to year of educational and social development is going to have a major effect on the lives of a lot of children. It's not just the learning that might not be happening, it's the likelihood of forgetting things they've already learned up to now. Obviously not every parent has home internet access and/or engaged parents, plus it affects kids from deprived backgrounds the most on top of every other barrier they're going to face in life.

There doesn't seem to be any evidence that young children themselves are especially at risk from the virus itself so it becomes almost entirely an issue of whether or not they're likely to transmit the virus, and I don't think anyone knows that yet.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 May 2020 11:35 (three years ago) link

the risk is low but children have died from it. there is also plenty of evidence that they catch it, even if they're asymptomatic. and if they've caught it, they can spread it. i'm in the weird position that my kids have already caught it and gotten better so i'm not that worried but i certainly would be if they hadn't got it yet.

how many times must serco, atos and g4s fuck up before they stop being awarded zillion dollar contracts. it really is just fucking incredible.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 May 2020 11:37 (three years ago) link

Also the likelihood that a classroom full of asymptomatic kids all spreading it around is putting teachers, especially older teachers, at risk.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 May 2020 11:42 (three years ago) link

indeed

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 May 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link

Repeatedly being rewarded for being shit is a Tory touchstone.

nashwan, Monday, 4 May 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link

it's entirely possible that teachers would suddenly be in the same risk category as bus drivers, NHS workers, etc.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 May 2020 11:43 (three years ago) link

I don't think children returning to school before the summer are going to gain much by way of educational advantage, because everything is likely to be piecemeal and disrupted. The most deprived children will be getting state sponsored childminding tho, which will allow their deprived parents to get back to their low paid jobs ASAP, which is the only agenda motivating this government, which certainly won't be providing adequate ppe for anybody or running a meaningful assessment of the risk.

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 May 2020 11:46 (three years ago) link

Schools going back is a terrible idea, how many of those children live in multigenerational households?

gyac, Monday, 4 May 2020 11:48 (three years ago) link

I'll leave questions of how shit the national curriculum and every other aspect of the state's programme of education and child development is. And don't even get me started on likely consequences for children with SEN.

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 May 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link

BREAKING: Jennie Formby has announced she is standing down as General Secretary of the Labour Party

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) May 4, 2020

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 May 2020 11:58 (three years ago) link

The proposed reduction of the two-metre rule to one metre seems completely bananas.

― ShariVari, Monday, 4 May 2020 12:01 (fifty-three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's that or building in extra protection for returning workers so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 4 May 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link

Given how badly the government handled the move into lockdown I don't think they have any clue at all as to how to handle the (infinitely more difficult) of how to exit.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 May 2020 12:03 (three years ago) link

I think the guiding light will be "as close as possible to the capitalism that made us rich, chaps, and avoid any painful reconfigurations that risk making us less rich or tilting society away from our benefit"

stet, Monday, 4 May 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link

Anyone with family who are autistic and non verbal wouldn't want them anywhere near a hospital right now, they'd be at the back of the queue for ICU/ventilators if they urgently needed that kind of medical care and would be likely to get sectioned if their behaviour became too challenging. You can't really do social distancing even with a small classroom of autistic children, a lot of them have poor spatial awareness and often walk right into people.

calzino, Monday, 4 May 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link

we are the briquettes

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 May 2020 12:07 (three years ago) link

Is there any growing pressure for a strike in the UK against the deconfinement for schools or other workers? Here in France the movement against deconfinement grew significantly over the weekend, with 120+ mayors of towns in the Paris region saying that it is unreasonable for schools to reopen 11 May as currently planned. In one department in the Paris region, teachers have filed an intention to strike starting 11 May. The transport unions are preparing to resist the return to a fuller offering of trains, without which a return to work would be difficult. The government is conscious of this, with its more recalcitrant members saying that French people are just putting off "learning to live with the virus", which in any case will have to happen by the start of the next school year in September. But that isn't clear: at universities we are preparing numerous scenarios for the next school year, including delaying its start until January.

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 4 May 2020 12:30 (three years ago) link

Nothing yet has happened that would prompt a strike - we're still in the middle of lockdown and no firm exit proposals have been made. If it happens it'll probably be on the railways or Tube first. Teachers unions are generally reluctant to strike but this is one thing that might make them.

Matt DC, Monday, 4 May 2020 12:36 (three years ago) link

I'm getting frequent messages from my union about the proposed 'return'. I've filled out various ballots and seen the letters to government. It's all couched in pretty forceful language but no direct mention of the 's' word yet.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 4 May 2020 12:39 (three years ago) link

it is absolute fucking nonsense to think that schools will reopen before september

imago, Monday, 4 May 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link

that is the extremely firm line that should be taken by everyone

imago, Monday, 4 May 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link

I can't see it being anything other than another appaling blunder that would only make sense if you think spreading the Rona is a net plus.

calzino, Monday, 4 May 2020 12:47 (three years ago) link

Strikes in the UK? You're having a laugh aren't you?

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2020 12:48 (three years ago) link

not having a laugh, Britain has a glorious history of industrial action! but it's been a while...

Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 4 May 2020 12:56 (three years ago) link

plenty of strikes among university ancillary workers and food-delivery couriers right up until lockdown

mark s, Monday, 4 May 2020 13:03 (three years ago) link

i mean i guess that's not strictly speaking "industrial" action but

mark s, Monday, 4 May 2020 13:04 (three years ago) link

i've been on strike in the last 2 years

clap for content-providers (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 May 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link

not having a laugh, Britain has a glorious history of industrial action! but it's been a while...

... a long while.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2020 13:22 (three years ago) link

Poor old Mike Yarwood, nobody knowing who trade union leaders were anymore drove him to the bottle... hold on though, did he actually do union leaders?

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Monday, 4 May 2020 13:25 (three years ago) link

Viewing figures for his programmes were enormous. The Mike Yarwood Christmas Show, aired on Christmas Day 1977, was watched by an audience of 21.4 million.

This is still the record for the biggest audience of a single UK light entertainment broadcast, beating the Morecambe and Wise Christmas special later the same day.

a huuuuge star, this mofo was a quasar! can barely remember him tbh - he was a bit passe by the early 80's iirc

calzino, Monday, 4 May 2020 13:44 (three years ago) link

Some reporting on rent strike actions:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/rent-strike-student-coronavirus-lockdown-housing-crisis-a9493936.html

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 May 2020 13:45 (three years ago) link


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