ECM: C/D, S&D

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Seriously I have not been this hooked on a particular album for a long time. S1 is proggy and jammy, S2 is spacey and dreamy. I can't get enough!

Well said, the A and B side indeed have quite distinctive vibes!

EvR, Sunday, 3 May 2020 18:04 (three years ago) link

Okay, fine! I've just ordered a copy of Ring from discogs. Will check back in after I've had a chance to listen.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Sunday, 3 May 2020 18:31 (three years ago) link

I’m looking for the ecm stuff that’s more on the electronic / “world music” / genre blending side of stuff if anyone had any good recommends .. love Steve tibbetts, egberto, dino s “kultrum,” nils petter molvaer... I do love a lot of the more purely jazz records described here from the 70s, and any of the really exceptional stuff in that vein I’m always into, but I kinda feel like a lot of what grabs my attention from the label is the stuff they put out that feels almost .. cheesy

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 7 May 2020 00:10 (three years ago) link

Eberhard Weber is your new best friend

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 7 May 2020 00:17 (three years ago) link

Jon Hassell's Power Spot came out via ECM.

pomenitul, Thursday, 7 May 2020 00:28 (three years ago) link

windham hill is your new best friend

ANU (sisilafami), Thursday, 7 May 2020 07:30 (three years ago) link

Rainer Bruninghaus' two records for ECM, check those out also.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 7 May 2020 08:18 (three years ago) link

iirc Gary Burton played vibes on Tim Hardin's "Misty Roses" in 1966: among his finest two minutes' work.

fetter, Thursday, 7 May 2020 08:48 (three years ago) link

Some nice ECM references in this massive Jim O'Rourke interview from this week.

EvR, Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:27 (three years ago) link

Mark Isham & Art Lande's We Begin is a big favourite here in the sort of ambient-electronic ECM space. Mainly for the open track, with its amazing drum machine work.

bamboohouses, Thursday, 7 May 2020 19:22 (three years ago) link

windham hill is your new best friend

― ANU (sisilafami), Thursday, May 7, 2020 2:30 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Kind of ... I think I want the windham hill side of ecm but windham is its own thing

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 8 May 2020 10:19 (three years ago) link

I feel like Stephan Micus is probably what you're looking for then. His stuff embodies the windham wing of ECM (even if a lot of his best stuff was technically on JAPO).

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Friday, 8 May 2020 14:32 (three years ago) link

Interesting ACL footage from the early days of the Pat Metheny Group. I've never completely warmed up to the first Group album, but it's neat to see them still kind of figuring it out. Lyle Mays (RIP) gets some particularly nice showcases here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UweiNBl3TLQ&t=1096s

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 10 May 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UweiNBl3TLQ

Hmmmm

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 10 May 2020 02:32 (three years ago) link

I'd like to pause for a moment to rep for Pat Metheny's eternally spectacular head of hair

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 10 May 2020 03:49 (three years ago) link

It always looks like a bit more than his neck can sustain

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 10 May 2020 04:37 (three years ago) link

I watched this just a few days ago, and yes mad props to PM's barnet.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 10 May 2020 06:53 (three years ago) link

Not on ECM, but Like Minds is Burton, Corea, Metheny, Holland, Haynes--here's the one I heard last night on Jazz For The New Millenium (Rick Mitchell's KBOO show, nationally distributed, named for his book): "Country Roads," a Burton original---incl. Metheny at his bluesiest...it's cool, Pops:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOpEPs3P-IM
Album has some variety, 3 or 4 shades anyway, and I think the whole thing's on the 'Tube.

dow, Monday, 11 May 2020 17:25 (three years ago) link

so i got ring in the mail yesterday. the first half is pretty solid, but if you really dig the second half and have never heard any of eberhard weber's albums. . .well friend, you are in for a treat. overall, good album.

related: anyone know this album? i thought i had it on vinyl, but checking my shelves reveals no such luck. i know i've listened to it ay some point in my life, but i don't recall much about it. a lot of the same band as on ring.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:10 (three years ago) link

I believe Ring is also the first recorded appearance of Pat Metheny.

In related news, I got my copy of Chick Corea - Return to Forever in the mail yesterday.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Passengers is solid. Dreams So Real (The Music of Carla Bley) is also worth checking out. It features the Ring band minus Eberhard Weber, and the selection of Bley tunes is terrific - that's always been one of my favorites.

savetherobot, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

Didn't realize that was all Bley, will check. I've seen Passengers, which also has some early Metheny playing and writing, it sez here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passengers_(Gary_Burton_album)#cite_note-RSJRG-3

dow, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 16:43 (three years ago) link

continuing my Jarrett gripes: staircase. another inessential Jarrett record on ecm in the 70s

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 18:21 (three years ago) link

Not a huge Burton fan, but I'm enjoying Dreams So Real. I'm guessing Carla Bley was a big influence for Metheny's more composition-heavy recordings that came later.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 19:29 (three years ago) link

https://instagram.com/ecm_listening

found this account just now. seems relevant.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link

Lol, my entire Instagram feed is going to be ECM content

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 14 May 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link

Haha, I posted that ECM Listening IG a bit further up. It's great!

Currently obsessing over the Edward Vesala album mentioned in the Jim O'rourke interview upthread - kind of dark spiritual jazz with awesome drummming and drone-y sections. This label keeps giving.

cooldix, Thursday, 14 May 2020 02:39 (three years ago) link

Poor description, great album.

cooldix, Thursday, 14 May 2020 02:40 (three years ago) link

Appealing description. Although drone-y can be overdone (ILX minority report, yes). Will check, thanks.

dow, Thursday, 14 May 2020 04:12 (three years ago) link

Satu is the 2nd album I've heard with Terje Rypdal where his playing sounds extremely similar to 80s Bill Frisell circa Power Tools (other was the first trio album with Vitous and DeJohnette). I have to imagine Frisell was studying these very closely.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 14 May 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link

Satu is the 2nd album I've heard with Terje Rypdal where his playing sounds extremely similar to 80s Bill Frisell circa Power Tools (other was the first trio album with Vitous and DeJohnette). I have to imagine Frisell was studying these very closely.

I think he did, as he's on this Rypdal-tribute that should appeal to ECM fans.

EvR, Thursday, 14 May 2020 06:30 (three years ago) link

This is a beauty : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ukrdo696vBc

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 14 May 2020 06:35 (three years ago) link

Satu rules but Nan Madol is one of the best ECM albums, full stop.

pomenitul, Thursday, 14 May 2020 11:54 (three years ago) link

That Sky Music tribute-to-Rypdal set is fantastic. I visited the Rune Grammofon offices in Oslo a couple of years ago and bought a copy of the ultra-limited edition version (white vinyl, an extra CD).

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 14 May 2020 13:29 (three years ago) link

How are those 2 extra tracks that aren't on the regular cd release, unperson? I still haven't heard those.

EvR, Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:13 (three years ago) link

They're good - long guitar jams, but they hold your attention.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 14 May 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link

Damn, Yellow Fields is so good. Just endlessly flowing like a mountain stream.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 22 May 2020 06:05 (three years ago) link

Haha, listened to that earlier on this evening. Also Ring and Dreams So Real.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 May 2020 06:06 (three years ago) link

Quarantine is truly the Season of ECM

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 22 May 2020 06:08 (three years ago) link

Pretty much!

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 May 2020 06:21 (three years ago) link

Heard a couple of tracks from the Gateway album (mentioned above) recently for the first time. It was beautiful stuff, some of my favorite "new to me" guitar playing I have heard for some time. I have seen Abercrombie's forever, but I kind of chalked up a whole slew of folks from that era as jazz-fusion guys and most of that stuff for me didn't stick once it got to the mid-70s and beyond. But yeah, this I loved and wasn't that fusion-y at all. I actually made a comment to my friend that it sounded a bit like Frisell to me as well (which someone else noted above too). Gonna try to track that album down, had a joyous feel to it which is appreciated right now.

grandavis, Friday, 22 May 2020 19:43 (three years ago) link

For those completists out there, playlists of the entire ECM catalog in chronological order.

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/54hZLPMDWjHVpCi9eJtUPB?si=g1uYq5RTT3eZZnaDy33lKQ

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0XIVL6mL5DoUDF15bCYxF2?si=KSZeZnjrRHSHtB_o7RtnxA

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 23 May 2020 13:19 (three years ago) link

Listening to ECM on Spotify seems totally at odds with the experience of actually listening to an ECM album but that's just me

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

there are a lot of them, and I only own a tiny fraction

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

to help make up for this I just snapped up a Ralph Towner vinyl 4 pack of Solstice, Matchbook, Diary, and Sargasso Sea for $30 off ebay.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 23 May 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link

Sargasso Sea is a really good one! I like Batik a lot, too. Never heard Diary or Matchbook.

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 23 May 2020 16:06 (three years ago) link

I think I'm lapsing into full on WeberMania. In the last couple of days I've checked out 'Later That Evening', 'Little Movements', 'Passengers' & 'Fluid Rustle', all new to me, all of which have been good to great IMO. His sense of space and his overall tone really appeal to me.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 28 May 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link

His tone is a mystery to me. Sounds so much like a fretless bass a lot of the time. Much louder and sharper than most upright basses. I suppose a lot of that comes from amplification, but it is very unusual.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 28 May 2020 04:23 (three years ago) link

welcome to the club, sparkle. his music is wondrous and highly rewarding.

re: his tone — i've long suspected he used some subtle modulation effect of some sort. definitely not a flanger or phaser, but the jc-120 (the first instance of chorus that i know of) didn't get released until 1975. would be very curious to know, as well.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 29 May 2020 04:15 (three years ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://www.ecmrecords.com/shop/1580224264

Accordionist Jean-Louis Matinier (who was in some ace Brahem bands) with classical guitarist Seddeki on a virtuosic but still retaining some sense of looseness and soulfulness sort of nice album!

calzino, Wednesday, 24 June 2020 14:10 (three years ago) link


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