The Last Dance: In Praise of One Lone Gold Hoop Earring

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ehlo was a perfectly reasonable choice to defend jordan he was long athletic moved well made jordan make a sick shot etc, harper wldve prob been a fine choice too, trapping him mightve been better all things considered, btw i remember where i was when "the shot" happened, it was at applebees

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link

Bill Simmons: Dennis Rodman is NOT an interesting person. Never has been, never will be.

Also Bill Simmons: Please read my 12,000 world column about the one time me, J-Bug and Sully played the Addams Family slot machine at Vegas and talked about The White Shadow.

— CogginToboggan (@CogginToboggan) April 27, 2020

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link

still made at rodman for saying bird has white privilege lol

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:28 (four years ago) link

*was a silly thing for rodman to say abt someone who just beat his ass but still

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link

Ehlo is fine choice to defend MJ but not if you also have Ron Harper on your roster

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0dllCe-D80

Bird looks...athletic? Quicker than I ever remember him being.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link

q: how is it that in 1987 Dave Corzine was 22 yrs older than me, I've aged 33 yrs since then, and his 1987 self still looks 22 yrs older than me??

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 19:56 (four years ago) link

bird was really slowed down by a bad back at the end of his career, he was never a high flyer but he cld move around the basketball court before the injuries set in

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

was really too bad what shouldve been the second half of his prime became his serious decline

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

I'm hoping this doc delves into 80s MJ. 90s Bulls in general has been covered to death, & his style of play was a lot more fun to watch when he was young. Feel like ppl who weren't around at the time think of him as post-up fadeaway guy, end of story.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

yeah I felt so bad when Larry was having to lie down instead of sit on the bench. Basketball fans were robbed of some good years from him and Magic. Then you got MJ missing 1.75 seasons in his prime...

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:08 (four years ago) link

young jordan was so much better than fade away jordan

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

granny, we're basically already out of the 80's in the timeline; that's covered in the first two episodes. Episode 4 is the first championship.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link

I'm writing my Senator!

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

In college he never stopped moving; catches a pass on the move and either continues his momentum or immediately changes directions and makes a move to the hoop. 1st few years in NBA, he has the ball more at start of possessions, games are longer, pro style is different so he slows down sliiiightly. Then comes Fade Away Jordan, and he hardly ever seems to run apart from transition game.
There's almost no high school footage that I've seen, but I assume he's just a blur out there.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:23 (four years ago) link

yeah i think the rest will be 90s only. loved the first 4 eps so far, there's been a few nuggets of stuff I havent heard. really fun watching with my wife who knows next to nothing nothing about any of it. the footage is awesome tho, love that quirky peak behind the curtain stuff like that little "the Sniffs" snippet. would be cool if the nba was pushing out the full games/series that are being referenced like the week following the episode release. would love to watch some of these games that they're just glossing over. really tho this is making me itch for more deep dives like this on old teams or bigtime players.

Spottie, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

the bad boys 30 for 30 covered a lot of the pistons stuff

Spottie, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link

for all the very reasonable worries that michael was going to sanitize this, he comes off as a flaming asshole then and now! Lots of gambling references too! Let's see how they handle the first retirement.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:41 (four years ago) link

jordan is proud of being an asshole dont think he minds it just as long as ppl think hes cool and a winner

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link

in fact he obvs likes it true alpha shit lol

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:43 (four years ago) link

did they cover the conspiracy to ice him out of the allstar game yet ppl on twitter were worried that was getting left out

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:46 (four years ago) link

i don't think they're going to cover that.

call all destroyer, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link

outrageous! its such a good subplot

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

isaiah was a villain lol

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:51 (four years ago) link

the other story they shd include is the businessman who beat him at one on one at his basketball camp for rich people

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 20:56 (four years ago) link

would love to watch some of these games that they're just glossing over.

everything is on youtube, it's great. I watched game 2 of '92 Finals last night. Lil interview with MJ about his 3pt shooting in game 1, him saying he doesn't like to shoot many 3s cause it "hurts his all around game". Such a different game back then.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link

yeah thats why its funny to speculate if he would be as great in today game, like yes if he was born in 1993, no if he got in a time machine in 1993

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

ha exactly

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 21:05 (four years ago) link

I'm totally ok with any athlete choosing to play until no team will offer than playing time, I think it's some Sports Fan bs to say they should hang it up for any other reason. However, it's crazy that MJ's career scoring avg would be 1.4 ppg higher if he never suited up for the Wizards (all of his other career avgs would be better too).

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 21:10 (four years ago) link

why did he retire three times such weird decisions

lag∞n, Monday, 27 April 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

i remember those wizard games as not being embarrassing exactly, just lacking

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link

1st retirement: dad murdered, burnt out on the hoops
2nd retirement: Phil Jackson wasn't gonna be coach, burnt out on the hoopla

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

he still avg'd over 20ppg but his FG% nose-dived as a Wizard. He def had his moments tho.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

had 3 games of 40+ in his final season

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 21:20 (four years ago) link

when they talked about 1st title, was it mentioned that MJ had more assists than Magic in the Finals?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 27 April 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

the narrative is more about how MJ focuses on team rather than personal achievements to get a chip so it's sorta implied. Perhaps unsurprisingly, Magic doesn't get too much playing era screen time in this.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 April 2020 21:54 (four years ago) link

i am now watching episode 1 of the last dance

Clay, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 01:27 (three years ago) link

i'm just a year or two too young to remember v much about pre-title jordan other than he was the best in the world and the pistons kept beating him down so this is going to be fun!

Clay, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link

lmao at the lingering shots on the lit cigar in the opening my man okay i will stop liveblogging this

Clay, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 01:29 (three years ago) link

no go for it! it's very joyous

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

the needledrops in this thing are absolutely perfect

Clay, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:08 (three years ago) link

ha im watching too clay, jordan shows up in a corvette, thats not a sports car for the most famous man in the world get a fararri or smth ffs

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:29 (three years ago) link

i was happy they did not linger on the sam bowie thing bc if they had i would have been very angry!!!!!!

Clay, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:30 (three years ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:31 (three years ago) link

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UO4AAOSw7fhbhyxt/s-l300.jpg

these jerseys were very good why did they ever change it

Clay, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:33 (three years ago) link

ha that was in the one of the first shots and i thought oh great this is starting out w me mad about a jersey

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:34 (three years ago) link

and now im agreeing completely w everything jordan is saying about the team/management feud, fucked up movie

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:35 (three years ago) link

jordan's kids shooting hoops with looney toons branded jean jackets tied around the waist is hardcore 90's adolesence shit

Clay, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:36 (three years ago) link

when corona is over i'm gonna get a taz tat with the letters MJ in copperplate gothic right above it you guys can hold me to this

Clay, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:38 (three years ago) link

its a good idea you cant argue with it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 28 April 2020 02:41 (three years ago) link


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