Oh, Monseur le Fopp, you are really spoiling us...

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Scotland on Sunday...

Fopp founder in buy-back talks to keep music alive
http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/business.cfm?id=1101312007

djmartian, Sunday, 15 July 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

We gotta keep up with this one...

COuld this deal go through and the shops open like nothing happened? They're all stil there, stocked!

Mark G, Monday, 16 July 2007 08:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Today's Music Week has:

HMV to buy Fopp stores?
HMV is reportedly considering the purchase of several former Fopp stores from administrator Ernst And Young.

Saxby D. Elder, Friday, 20 July 2007 17:00 (sixteen years ago) link

Stock raiding, I reckons!

Mark G, Friday, 20 July 2007 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link

hmv has now bought fopp, apparently: http://www.drownedinsound.com/articles/2256542

CharlieNo4, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6923511.stm

Music and book retailer HMV has struck a deal to buy the Fopp brand and revive six of its stores.

HMV has bought the shops - which will trade under the Fopp name - in Glasgow, Edinburgh, London's Covent Garden, Manchester, Nottingham and Cambridge.

Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

FOPP ARISES!!!

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 13:51 (sixteen years ago) link

same shops, same staff, crazy new hmv prices

blueski, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 13:53 (sixteen years ago) link

No TCR? NO COCKBURN ST?! Buffoons!

strophic, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:05 (sixteen years ago) link

I reckon they have bought the Fopp brand and only six stores, to kill off any chance of a Gordon Montgomery come back.

djmartian, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:08 (sixteen years ago) link

by Covent Garden do they mean the one between Seven Dials and Charing Cross Road?

blueski, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:10 (sixteen years ago) link

Guess so. So much for the "flagship" TCR hyperstore.

Matt #2, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:11 (sixteen years ago) link

go manchester!

pisces, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 14:33 (sixteen years ago) link

No TCR? NO COCKBURN ST?!

It made little sense to have two stores in Edinburgh, and Rose St was bigger. My guess is that TCR is too big. I wonder if the decision is also based on whether they expect a Fopp to cut into HMV sales in those cities. In Bristol or Dundee they presumably have a monopoly of sorts now there are no independent stores, but in Edinburgh they can take sales of Avalanche. [Avalanche is now totally rubbish, and HMV already carries better stock if you like anything other than a narrow range of styles.] Would the same logic go for Manchester (Piccadilly) or Nottingham (is Selectadisc still open?). If anyone can explain the Cambridge situation to me I'd be grateful!

TBH I had assumed that someone would do this -- it was hard to believe that NO Fopp stores were profitable. Without seeing the figures ourselves it's kind of hard to speculate! Wasn't sure it would be HMV though. If HMV can take Fopp backwards i.e. less pile-em-high-populist and more of a combination of well-chosen-specialist stuff I'd pay 10/12 alongside the fiver stuff, i still think this is a good strategy in cities with large enough music scenes. But either a bargain-basement chain or an alternative music chain has no hope.

byebyepride, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

Cambridge situation to me I'd be grateful!

no independent music stores left in Cambridge, 2 universities, another brand to fleece money from the student toffs.

djmartian, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

But students no longer buy music!

byebyepride, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:22 (sixteen years ago) link

I wonder if the decision is also based on whether they expect a Fopp to cut into HMV sales in those cities

But surely rose st - within a couple of minutes walk from the two HMVs on princes st - would do this more than cockburn st? You're right, though, it is bigger and probably more likely to get passing trade. I suppose I'm just heartbroken that the wee shop I spent my entire teenage life in isn't there anymore! (And, as you say, avalanche is now pish).

I'd love to see them return fopp to the way it was five years ago, but I reckon it won't be too long before you have to navigate a big stack of mobile phones before you can get to the checkout, to let them know that yes thanks, you did find everything you were looking for. Bah.

strophic, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link

Hmm, well I remember being shocked and heartbroken when fopp moved across cockburn st!!

I think Rose St counts as more central -- I bet there are people who shop there who wouldn't brave the teen-goth contingent on cockburn st. Also it is ideally located for yr 30-something bloke who has been dragged out by the missus and has managed to escape for twenty minutes while she is in jigsaw or wherever ;-)

byebyepride, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i wonder what these will be like. cambridge hmv is for shit, so i'm at least a quarter-stoked we'll have, like, another record shop. still a bummer.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:57 (sixteen years ago) link

no independent music stores left in Cambridge, 2 universities, another brand to fleece money from the student toffs.

-- djmartian, Tuesday, July 31, 2007 4:12 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Link

hey fucko, not everyone in this bitch is a student. i am, obviously -- but not at either of the so-called universities that are located here. sike.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 16:58 (sixteen years ago) link

does newcastle still have the awesome record store i remember from my one visit there in 1994? their bins were organised by record label, in my hazy memory, i.e. a whole stack of stuff just from "alternative tentacles"

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link

If you mean "Pet Sounds" I don't know but they have moved at least three times since 1994.

Mark G, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe? i bought a boredoms record there. i think it was also the first place i ever saw an autechre record.

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 31 July 2007 23:56 (sixteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Fopp Nottingham will be re-opening soon:

http://tinyurl.com/ypmu35

Presumably the others will re-open soon

djmartian, Thursday, 16 August 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link

When's the Cambridge one reopening? I might be working up there soon!

Mark G, Friday, 17 August 2007 10:35 (sixteen years ago) link

oh i was going to say: there were people stacking shelves there yesterday. it was closed still, but there is activity!

that simian mobile justice album (whatever the heck it is) is getting a lot of free advertising from the closures.

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Friday, 17 August 2007 10:49 (sixteen years ago) link

the two glasgow branches are meant to re-open on monday.

stirmonster, Friday, 17 August 2007 11:45 (sixteen years ago) link

both of them! that was quite quick, really

RJG, Friday, 17 August 2007 11:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Now that HMV have bought the Fopp brand I wonder if they will accept Fopp vouchers as a goodwill gesture?

djmartian, Friday, 17 August 2007 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link

There were people working in the Rose Street branch in Edinburgh on Wednesday when i passed so I guess that'll be opening Monday too.

leigh, Friday, 17 August 2007 12:14 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I spotted shelf stacking going on in the Nottingham branch earlier in the week... it is all Very Exciting.

mike t-diva, Friday, 17 August 2007 12:58 (sixteen years ago) link

that simian mobile justice album (whatever the heck it is) is getting a lot of free advertising from the closures.

indeed - but no sales.

will report on the Bristol side of things when i am allowed back into the town centre next week.

mark e, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Your asbo ending?

onimo, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link

ha. if only. instead, my well earned stint of summer hols/parenting hell is ..

mark e, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:57 (sixteen years ago) link

When's the Cambridge one reopening? I might be working up there soon!

If so, I will almost certainly be like HI DERE at some point over the next year.

Good news about the re-opening!

Just got offed, Friday, 17 August 2007 15:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I've heard the lease has expired on the Cambridge Circus branch in London, and the shop was gutted recently. Perhaps no re-opening here, HMV didn't seem that interested in the other branches?

Bocken Social Scene, Monday, 20 August 2007 13:07 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah manchester looks good to go. are the same people going to be working there? did those who got stiffed when they closed get their money back in the end?

pisces, Monday, 20 August 2007 13:09 (sixteen years ago) link

People in London got paid I think 'cos a managery-type person went back to the shop after the last day and took money from the tills. I think they're looking to take the same staff back, if they haven't given up on the excitement of waiting for a phonecall from hmv, and if the shop is actually still available. I can't remember which other shops were opening, it sounds like quite a few country-wide (presumably they're Fopp rather than MusicZone ones?) but I think hmv had said the only profitable London branch was the Cambridge Circus one, I don't know if they're cosidering reviving the TCR/Camden/Bayswater (any others?) instead.

Bocken Social Scene, Monday, 20 August 2007 13:25 (sixteen years ago) link

Anyone know for sure if they have actually re-opened anywhere yet?

bakerstreetsaxsolo, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 09:35 (sixteen years ago) link

nothing happening in the Bristol one as far as i can tell from a walk by this morning.

mark e, Wednesday, 22 August 2007 09:46 (sixteen years ago) link

Walked past Edinburgh Rose St on the weekend and note in window said reopening 22nd (yesterday) but I didn't go and check!

byebyepride, Thursday, 23 August 2007 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link

i went by rose street today and it was still closed.

jed_, Thursday, 23 August 2007 02:20 (sixteen years ago) link

all the stock in the shop had HMV stickers on it though. i mean the new-style HMV stickers that don't actually say HMV on them anywhere.

jed_, Thursday, 23 August 2007 02:21 (sixteen years ago) link

both glasgow branches still closed. my pal who works in the union st. branch had told me they would open on monday so it must be imminent.

stirmonster, Thursday, 23 August 2007 05:29 (sixteen years ago) link

checked a little closer - the one in bristol town has been totally cleared out. all stock gone. guess hmv didn't want this one (which makes sense as HMV is but a mere stones throw away !)

mark e, Thursday, 23 August 2007 07:27 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, Readingshop is also cleared out.

Mark G, Thursday, 23 August 2007 08:16 (sixteen years ago) link

http://www.thebookseller.com/news/43649-hmv-buys-seventh-fopp-store.html

HMV has bought another store from the adminstrators of collapsed retail chain Fopp. The Byres Road, Glasgow branch is the seventh store that HMV has taken over since Fopp went into administration in June. The others, which HMV expects to begin trading by the end of August, are Cambridge, Edinburgh, Glasgow, London’s Covent Garden, Manchester and Nottingham.

A spokesman for HMV said that a final decision has not been made about who will head the Fopp book buying team and website, adding that one outcome could see HMV assuming responsibility itself.

London up in the air at the moment, obviously. Still haven't checked out TCR, Camden etc, although Camden seemed to still be in post-closure limbo with stock 8 days ago.

Bocken Social Scene, Thursday, 23 August 2007 09:04 (sixteen years ago) link

I walked past the Rose St Fopp yesterday and there was a sign in the window saying it'd open at 9am on Saturday.

leigh, Thursday, 23 August 2007 11:52 (sixteen years ago) link

It'll be rubbish when Foppwatch becomes "HMV still fucking sucks!"

onimo, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:01 (sixteen years ago) link

So, basically, Fopp will become HMV's "can't sell these old cakes" clearing house?

Mark G, Thursday, 23 August 2007 14:13 (sixteen years ago) link


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