Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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The only entertaining part of this that I saw was clowning one of the people raging at the Chapo-to-fascist pipeline because he's a lead software developer for the Wal-Mart surveillance state.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 April 2020 04:52 (four years ago) link

Obv it’s all anecdotal but this woman has provided zero examples afaik of anyone who was actually moved towards fascism by the show, whereas I’ve seen many many people say that the show got them out of the orbit of Shapiro/Peterson/alt-right YouTube dipshits and into leftist politics/organizing.

JoeStork, Friday, 24 April 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link

Joe yr lil summary there makes me once again feel v v good about quitting twitter

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 24 April 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link

I think the main negative effect has been that the show being rude and funny to people like David Frum has made some of its listeners think they’re just as funny when they talk shit at some middle-aged resistance mom with 200 followers.

JoeStork, Friday, 24 April 2020 04:57 (four years ago) link

you’re missing out on the huge baby though Simon, come back

JoeStork, Friday, 24 April 2020 04:59 (four years ago) link

The huge baby is really like 3 and I think his parents shave his head and dress him like a baby for the views

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 April 2020 05:02 (four years ago) link

Well no shit

silby, Friday, 24 April 2020 05:03 (four years ago) link

Red Scare defending Banks' use of racial slurs against Arabs / Asians, only for their fans to apparently get her banned from Twitter for calling them white and boring is hilarious.

ShariVari, Friday, 24 April 2020 09:24 (four years ago) link

I’ve seen many many people say that the show got them out of the orbit of Shapiro/Peterson/alt-right YouTube dipshits and into leftist politics

I see that’s why these new american leftist dudes are such dickheads

fuck it (Left), Friday, 24 April 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link

I feel like ppl use those awful liberal twitter hacks as an easy target to stand in for anyone who doesn’t like this shithead culture on the left

fuck it (Left), Friday, 24 April 2020 12:05 (four years ago) link

I'm so hooked by the premise of Assassin 33 AD that I feel duty bound to pirate and watch it before even listening to their episode about it.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 24 April 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link

yeah it sounds bonkers

gbx, Friday, 24 April 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link

yeah honestly these guys are at their best when they’re going in on Protestantism American-style. I could listen to a podcast of just that and be good tbh

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 24 April 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

see also: the Danny McBride HBO trilogy ep

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 24 April 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link

otm, we have really bizarre ideas about what people deserve and the entire protestant work ethic

mh, Friday, 24 April 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link

Pirating Assassin tonight, I can't imagine it will live up the expectations they've set.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:04 (four years ago) link

<quote>Is there a particular reason why professional media commentators or activist types seem to have the thinnest possible skins? Is this a class background thing? Chris Cuomo posted some shit the other day, didn’t he, that he didn’t want to be a public figure anymore because someone spotted him on the street in Manhattan and was rude to him?

― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish) </quote>

Someone gave him shit for being in his own front yard. With family, while isolating.

horizontal, Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:40 (four years ago) link

Seems like a fair trade for however many millions of dollars he makes for this very public job he's willingly entered into.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 25 April 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link

Everyone who makes a million or more a year should be put in stocks for 24 hours to be pelted with rotten fruits and insulted.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 25 April 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link

Cuomo was at a house he was having built, just a steel frame, with 5 other people and no mask or gloves. Guy told him off and Cuomo blew a gasket.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 25 April 2020 02:35 (four years ago) link

Pirating Assassin tonight, I can't imagine it will live up the expectations they've set.

I watched this online with some friends of mine tonight and it absolutely killed.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 April 2020 03:24 (four years ago) link

Matt was on Liz & Brace's twitch chat for 2+ hours. Gets into aesthetics, art, YA book series, etc https://www.twitch.tv/videos/603739955

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 27 April 2020 06:26 (four years ago) link

Matt’s backyard talks are pretty much just political philosophy lectures at this point:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_gPEG2Du5C/?igshid=1vjgwaqpnj0i

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 05:52 (four years ago) link

the beginning of the end for Nathan Robinson (who recently came out as saying socialists would be "better off if Marx had never been born")

If you are tempted to replace the insights of Karl Marx in your worldview with those of Nathan Robinson, I simply ask that you look at the picture of Nathan in the peacock costume first.

— grillpilled_cushbomb (@cushbomb) April 29, 2020

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link

I wondered what that was about. Purge the fedoras IMO

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link

it's disingenuous to pretend that marx has nothing to do with the way communist regimes turned out.

"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror"

also, the communist manifesto lays out a plan for forcibly centralizing the economy in the hands of the state as the first step toward communism. only after this is argued to be a necessary phase, after which the state will "wither away" and society will become a free association of individuals. an interesting idea, sure, but it is clearly the phase that caused every communist country to become an abattoir.

i think a defense of marxism needs to come with an acknowledgment of the limitations of marx's thought. i think marx was a powerful and influential thinker and i turn to his thought to analyze the world around me all the time -- probably more than i realize as his ideas have become so ingrained in our way of thinking. but he wasn't a prophet and he laid the groundwork to some awful approaches to revolution. marx needs to be rethought, not protected.

treeship., Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link

so robinson otm.

treeship., Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link

a pretty useless quote without the rest

"But the royal terrorists, the terrorists by the grace of God and the law, are in practice brutal, disdainful, and mean, in theory cowardly, secretive, and deceitful, and in both respects disreputable.""

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

doesn't really change the meaning. obviously the regimes the communists stood against were terrible. but i don't want to be part of any revolution that uses "terror" as a tactic.

treeship., Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

I prefer Twain on terror to Marx in any case

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:24 (four years ago) link

the marxism of small differences

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

doesn't really change the meaning.

it gives a great deal of context to the meaning - writing in the midst of a violent conflict, being on the receiving end of terror, you know? I wouldn't look for missives from the Spanish nationalists circa 1937 about how they wish they could just get along with the Falangists.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link

Republicans. Nationalists on same side as Falange

Appleman Appears: 20/2/2020. Whose Cider You On? (Bananaman Begins), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link

ahem, falange were part of the side known collectively as the nationalists

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

oops, yeah, trying to write complete thoughts on the phone sux

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link

In classic Marx style, if he were alive today I bet Marx would write something like “Why Nathan’s critics are wrong about why he is wrong about me and why he is actually wrong about me. Also some unexplained jabs at Max Stirner.”

— Emma Caterine 🌹 (@EmmaCaterineDSA) April 29, 2020

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link

Will's dad wrote the book that this movie was based on

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8f/The_Treatment_FilmPoster.jpeg

and the soundtrack is by John Zorn

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 22:30 (four years ago) link

In his backyard talk tonight, Matt actually regrets posting that, and is talking himself thru some sorta Hegelian talk about why twitter is garbage for anything other than basic socializing, and even then it ain't great.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/606458874

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 30 April 2020 08:18 (four years ago) link

marx deserves plenty of criticism but social democrats are fucking terrible at it

fuck it (Left), Thursday, 30 April 2020 09:45 (four years ago) link

NJR is more an anarchist/LibSoc, not a social democrat tho

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 1 May 2020 00:50 (four years ago) link

With an objectively funny accent.

JoeStork, Friday, 1 May 2020 00:57 (four years ago) link

A M-L but it stands for M'Lady instead of Marxist-Leninist

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 1 May 2020 01:15 (four years ago) link

Whose this Tom Wolfe wannabe fucker anyway

silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link

editor of Current Affairs

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 1 May 2020 02:02 (four years ago) link

Did ppl know he looked like that when they started buying the magazine

silby, Friday, 1 May 2020 03:33 (four years ago) link

you assume that people actually buy the magazine

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 1 May 2020 03:43 (four years ago) link

I met the guy at the DSA Conv last August. Nice fellow in person, shorter and younger than you’d expect, quite happy to have any CA writers guest on my podcast should I request them

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Friday, 1 May 2020 04:37 (four years ago) link

NJR is more an anarchist/LibSoc
lol is he fuck, he's a liberal dweeb

fuck it (Left), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

At least Matt’s current stage as attempting to be bodhisattva is better than some Joker shit
https://youtu.be/uHAdhekKayo

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 2 May 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link


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