Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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Feels like a lot of people want to trash Red Scare but they're not actually well known enough to get a tweet trending.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 23 April 2020 00:52 (four years ago) link

i think Dasha is more known for being interviewed by InfoWars dressed as a schoolgirl or whatever than the podcast is.

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 23 April 2020 04:50 (four years ago) link

Don't let brad see this sailor moon erasure

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link

there seems to be a camp of listeners that see CTH and a raft of other podcasts (Street Fight, etc) as kind of a leftist listening enterprise with commentary on political media and grassroots advocacy that works against the stereotype of a bunch of brooklyn-based podcasters in a scene that has a lot of bickering

honestly, I can't keep track of the latter situation at all

mh, Thursday, 23 April 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link

Azealia Banks - not a Red Scare fan

Ok but if you guys are boring and on klonopin like that terrible Red Scare podcast I’m out. Lol. Going to listen now https://t.co/KI1P0CXaYz

— AZEALIA BANKS (@AZEALIA_2020) April 23, 2020

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link

critical support for azealia banks

fuck it (Left), Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

I enjoy the this is sus eps. only good chapo shit imo

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

Emotionally manipulative network dramas are right in Felix’s wheelhouse. I want him to do Parenthood.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link

I'm imagining banks going on trueanon and Grimes going on red scare now and it makes an unbelievable amount of sense

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

When ppl talk about the Chapo-to-fash pipeline
https://media.giphy.com/media/xTcnSOEKegBnYhGahW/source.gif

When ppl talk about the Red Scare-to-fash pipeline
https://media.giphy.com/media/geEvRnbQqLYsb5WOr8/source.gif

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link

I've never knowingly interacted with a fan but it seems like their pipeline is most likely Red Scare-to-vote blue no matter who in two promotions at work.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link

Is there a particular reason why professional media commentators or activist types seem to have the thinnest possible skins? Is this a class background thing? Chris Cuomo posted some shit the other day, didn’t he, that he didn’t want to be a public figure anymore because someone spotted him on the street in Manhattan and was rude to him?

Like that Gwen Snyder character(amongst others) spent an entire day having an episode of scribomania which included doubling down after getting some shit wrong.

Social media and twitter especially has proven the best/worst glimpse into their really weird & petty grievances, feuds, and position-jockeying.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:54 (four years ago) link

Also Felix and his sister could probably have quite a successful re-watch show.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link

tbf having people know who you are and want to interact with you about it seems like a nightmare but otoh maybe they should've considered this before taking these highly visible public jobs

Mordy, Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:57 (four years ago) link

Woke Twitter people aren't even making money at it (no matter how many have their Paypal links pinned as a top tweet).

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 April 2020 02:00 (four years ago) link

these professional internet sleuths who claim they're fighting fascism by writing severe articles about 4chan memes never get far enough into their research to learn that twitter takedowns make irony bros more popular

(in kayfabe at least - i doubt someone who solicits patreon money for "browsing the internet" is actually very concerned with chapo or trueanon failing)

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Friday, 24 April 2020 03:17 (four years ago) link

I'm going to

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 April 2020 03:23 (four years ago) link

COOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 April 2020 03:23 (four years ago) link

^this is praxis

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 24 April 2020 03:24 (four years ago) link

the person who really concerns me is the psycho with the dog avatar who spams anyone who posts about the show with years-old screenshots of out-of-context tweets that apparently prove that they're all vicious anti-semites. The one time I interacted with him he was raving at Daniel Menaker about what a terrible father he was to evil Will Menaker. He's been doing this nonstop for 6 months at least, anyway this Snyder person seems to be using him as a source for her 95 Chapo theses. I honestly hope it doesn't turn into IRL stalking (harder to do these days at least), the single-minded lunacy really creeped me out.

JoeStork, Friday, 24 April 2020 04:21 (four years ago) link

I just assume everyone in this world is kind of more bad than good at this point, at the very least they are predominantly white men doing things for attention which is suspicious.

silby, Friday, 24 April 2020 04:34 (four years ago) link

The only entertaining part of this that I saw was clowning one of the people raging at the Chapo-to-fascist pipeline because he's a lead software developer for the Wal-Mart surveillance state.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 April 2020 04:52 (four years ago) link

Obv it’s all anecdotal but this woman has provided zero examples afaik of anyone who was actually moved towards fascism by the show, whereas I’ve seen many many people say that the show got them out of the orbit of Shapiro/Peterson/alt-right YouTube dipshits and into leftist politics/organizing.

JoeStork, Friday, 24 April 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link

Joe yr lil summary there makes me once again feel v v good about quitting twitter

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 24 April 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link

I think the main negative effect has been that the show being rude and funny to people like David Frum has made some of its listeners think they’re just as funny when they talk shit at some middle-aged resistance mom with 200 followers.

JoeStork, Friday, 24 April 2020 04:57 (four years ago) link

you’re missing out on the huge baby though Simon, come back

JoeStork, Friday, 24 April 2020 04:59 (four years ago) link

The huge baby is really like 3 and I think his parents shave his head and dress him like a baby for the views

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 24 April 2020 05:02 (four years ago) link

Well no shit

silby, Friday, 24 April 2020 05:03 (four years ago) link

Red Scare defending Banks' use of racial slurs against Arabs / Asians, only for their fans to apparently get her banned from Twitter for calling them white and boring is hilarious.

ShariVari, Friday, 24 April 2020 09:24 (four years ago) link

I’ve seen many many people say that the show got them out of the orbit of Shapiro/Peterson/alt-right YouTube dipshits and into leftist politics

I see that’s why these new american leftist dudes are such dickheads

fuck it (Left), Friday, 24 April 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link

I feel like ppl use those awful liberal twitter hacks as an easy target to stand in for anyone who doesn’t like this shithead culture on the left

fuck it (Left), Friday, 24 April 2020 12:05 (four years ago) link

I'm so hooked by the premise of Assassin 33 AD that I feel duty bound to pirate and watch it before even listening to their episode about it.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Friday, 24 April 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link

yeah it sounds bonkers

gbx, Friday, 24 April 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link

yeah honestly these guys are at their best when they’re going in on Protestantism American-style. I could listen to a podcast of just that and be good tbh

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 24 April 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

see also: the Danny McBride HBO trilogy ep

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 24 April 2020 17:19 (four years ago) link

otm, we have really bizarre ideas about what people deserve and the entire protestant work ethic

mh, Friday, 24 April 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link

Pirating Assassin tonight, I can't imagine it will live up the expectations they've set.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:04 (four years ago) link

<quote>Is there a particular reason why professional media commentators or activist types seem to have the thinnest possible skins? Is this a class background thing? Chris Cuomo posted some shit the other day, didn’t he, that he didn’t want to be a public figure anymore because someone spotted him on the street in Manhattan and was rude to him?

― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish) </quote>

Someone gave him shit for being in his own front yard. With family, while isolating.

horizontal, Saturday, 25 April 2020 01:40 (four years ago) link

Seems like a fair trade for however many millions of dollars he makes for this very public job he's willingly entered into.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 25 April 2020 02:01 (four years ago) link

Everyone who makes a million or more a year should be put in stocks for 24 hours to be pelted with rotten fruits and insulted.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 25 April 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link

Cuomo was at a house he was having built, just a steel frame, with 5 other people and no mask or gloves. Guy told him off and Cuomo blew a gasket.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Saturday, 25 April 2020 02:35 (four years ago) link

Pirating Assassin tonight, I can't imagine it will live up the expectations they've set.

I watched this online with some friends of mine tonight and it absolutely killed.

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Saturday, 25 April 2020 03:24 (four years ago) link

Matt was on Liz & Brace's twitch chat for 2+ hours. Gets into aesthetics, art, YA book series, etc https://www.twitch.tv/videos/603739955

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Monday, 27 April 2020 06:26 (four years ago) link

Matt’s backyard talks are pretty much just political philosophy lectures at this point:
https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_gPEG2Du5C/?igshid=1vjgwaqpnj0i

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 28 April 2020 05:52 (four years ago) link

the beginning of the end for Nathan Robinson (who recently came out as saying socialists would be "better off if Marx had never been born")

If you are tempted to replace the insights of Karl Marx in your worldview with those of Nathan Robinson, I simply ask that you look at the picture of Nathan in the peacock costume first.

— grillpilled_cushbomb (@cushbomb) April 29, 2020

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:50 (four years ago) link

I wondered what that was about. Purge the fedoras IMO

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 20:58 (four years ago) link

it's disingenuous to pretend that marx has nothing to do with the way communist regimes turned out.

"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror"

also, the communist manifesto lays out a plan for forcibly centralizing the economy in the hands of the state as the first step toward communism. only after this is argued to be a necessary phase, after which the state will "wither away" and society will become a free association of individuals. an interesting idea, sure, but it is clearly the phase that caused every communist country to become an abattoir.

i think a defense of marxism needs to come with an acknowledgment of the limitations of marx's thought. i think marx was a powerful and influential thinker and i turn to his thought to analyze the world around me all the time -- probably more than i realize as his ideas have become so ingrained in our way of thinking. but he wasn't a prophet and he laid the groundwork to some awful approaches to revolution. marx needs to be rethought, not protected.

treeship., Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link

so robinson otm.

treeship., Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link

a pretty useless quote without the rest

"But the royal terrorists, the terrorists by the grace of God and the law, are in practice brutal, disdainful, and mean, in theory cowardly, secretive, and deceitful, and in both respects disreputable.""

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

doesn't really change the meaning. obviously the regimes the communists stood against were terrible. but i don't want to be part of any revolution that uses "terror" as a tactic.

treeship., Wednesday, 29 April 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link


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