one of the things that shocks me most about this record is how much the more tepid live songs have improved. "bodysnatchers" is a monster, especially after it opens up in the second half, and "open pick" (which was always kind of non-descript live) is awesome as the requisite breathless rant moment (see: idioteque, wolf at the door, etc)
― ^@^, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
track times, anyone?
i'm gonna d/l this real soon, jut wanna know a few details first.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:04 (sixteen years ago) link
why does it matter?
― cutty, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
wikipedia is your friend. at least for now.
― ^@^, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
cutty: yeah, i know it doesn't matter, i'm just anal like that.
mark: cheers!
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link
you need to know track times before you listen to the album? what the fuck is wrong with you. close your eyes and listen to it.
― cutty, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
is it weird that i've been almost more excited for the bonus disc than for the album?
xpost you just asked louis jagger what is wrong with him. lol
― ^@^, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:08 (sixteen years ago) link
cutty: i'm just interested! wanted to see whether they'd done any real long-form pieces. answer, alas, is no.
lol indeed.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:10 (sixteen years ago) link
you are a real long form piece of turd
― cutty, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link
is the BoC track bits of "roygbiv" ?
― gman, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link
any other questions you need to ask us?
― ^@^, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:11 (sixteen years ago) link
My own 2c is that this record is fine, but lacks some emotional punch. maybe it'll sink in. it's a nice mood piece, and i'm happy to file it next to httt (which means I like the idea of it more often than I actually put it on). i also think that this is as good as they can be, which is pretty good.
what makes a lot of people here think that they're capable of something out of this world? it's not like they're a band with potential anymore. they're good, and good at what they do, and they'll do this stuff from here on out, I assume.
― paulhw, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:14 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, why do you and cutty feel the need to keep zinging when there's clearly no fuel left in the tank?
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:20 (sixteen years ago) link
i don't usually zing you, you know that, i just thought your question was ridiculous.
― cutty, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:21 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah ok it was ridiculous, but i'm a bit drunk, i've just got back from a gig, i feel a bit guilty for not having acquired the album, and i just wanted to know a bit more about what i'd be getting. i know it sounds stupid, but you can sometimes determine quite a lot from track-times.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:24 (sixteen years ago) link
like, for example, how long the songs are
― max, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:25 (sixteen years ago) link
After a really terrible, stressful, headache-inducing day, "Nude" sounds like musical aspirin. I love this album.
― Tape Store, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:27 (sixteen years ago) link
well, if there were, like, three 8-minute tracks on that wikipedia list, i would currently be slavering at the chops, eyes agog, probably trying to d/l the record right fucking now.
that is what track-times can do for folks like me.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:32 (sixteen years ago) link
you have no idea how interesting it is to hear you talk this
― ^@^, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:34 (sixteen years ago) link
you have no idea how interesting it is to hear you talk ABOUT this
you have no idea
why are long songs better than short songs?
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:36 (sixteen years ago) link
that doesn't make sense. i have no idea? what, about how you should or shouldn't approach a record? under the autocratic leadership of mark p, will it become illegal to pleasantly request information regarding an album's track-times? it really isn't that weird.
matt: long songs aren't necessarily better, but i've long said that i'd be incredibly interested in hearing Radiohead attempt something more drawn-out, more free-form, dare i say more 'progressive'.
mind you, their best disc IMO was the airbag EP, and that was, like, 26 minutes long, with only two tracks over 4 minutes in length. maybe it's for the best.
― Just got offed, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link
More seconds, overall, in general. xpost
― Z S, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:39 (sixteen years ago) link
ts: person pitch/strawberry jam vs. the eraser/in rainbows
― kamerad, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 23:43 (sixteen years ago) link
love the first track. what sort of music is like this and 'everything in it's right place'? i know everyone always says AUTECHRE but zzzz. what else though?
― pisces, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:04 (sixteen years ago) link
It was always more Aphex b-side and BoC than Autechre, by a long way.
― Mister Craig, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:08 (sixteen years ago) link
Actually, I think my least favorite parts of the album may be the bookends: the first part of "15 Step", before the band starts to kick in, and "Videotape", pretty much as a whole. The rest I couldn't be more delighted with.
― Z S, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:11 (sixteen years ago) link
Thom speaks:
hope you are enjoying listening to the download of In Rainbows. its a relief to us all that finally its out there. its been a mad couple of weeks.. as i'm sure you can imagine..."I love pop music to death..... Most great composers rely on folk music. I rely on pop music. I'm not saying I'm a great composer or that pop music is folk music. There's a whole endless thing going on out there. You make your little pond but if your pond isn't connected to the river, which isn't connected to an ocean, it's just going to dry up. It's just a little piss pool. I've lived too long to be happy in a pond."I found this in WIRE magazine over a pint in the pub last night.. its Robert WyattThom
"I love pop music to death..... Most great composers rely on folk music. I rely on pop music. I'm not saying I'm a great composer or that pop music is folk music. There's a whole endless thing going on out there. You make your little pond but if your pond isn't connected to the river, which isn't connected to an ocean, it's just going to dry up. It's just a little piss pool. I've lived too long to be happy in a pond."
I found this in WIRE magazine over a pint in the pub last night.. its Robert Wyatt
Thom
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link
i'd be incredibly interested in hearing Radiohead attempt something more drawn-out, more free-form, dare i say more 'progressive'.
I can't wait until Louis graduates college.
― Jordan, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Funny Yorke should mention Wyatt. Listening to this after spending most of yesterday afternoon absorbing Comicopera, I'm struck by how much Yorke's new tone resembles Wyatt's -- singing slightly behind the beat, allowing himself to sound woozy while textures swell and ebb.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:22 (sixteen years ago) link
i've been busting 'moon in june' over the past couple of days...wyatt is as good a role model as any. even if his politics are a tad extreme.
― Just got offed, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:27 (sixteen years ago) link
the ride accents in reckoner are wonderful, give the drummer some
― cutty, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:30 (sixteen years ago) link
Can't...Stop...Listening. I'm on number 5 in a row now.
Generally, I'm preferring the first half to the second, slightly. It isn't that Faust Arp to the end isn't good, it's that the first five songs are all pretty much perfect.
― Z S, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:38 (sixteen years ago) link
Already though, I'm wishing "Nude" were the closing song, and [insert standout track from bonus disc] was in the #3 slot instead.
― Z S, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:39 (sixteen years ago) link
My speakers distort a few times during this album. Looks like I'm not the only one. Here's Bodysnatchers: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g6/Coldacre/Bodysnatchers.png and House of Cards: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g6/Coldacre/Houseofcards.png
I'm not sure if that's because of the mastering, or what, but hopefully the final, physical copy will be a bit better sounding.
― Z S, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:44 (sixteen years ago) link
love the dub sound of house of cards
― bstep, Thursday, 11 October 2007 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link
What program is that? It looks fun.
― pinkie, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:13 (sixteen years ago) link
That's Audacity, I think, a free download.
― Z S, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:22 (sixteen years ago) link
oh yeah, does anyone else think Thom's vocals on "Bodysnatchers" are very reminiscent of Jeff Buckley's attempts at unhinged rock'n'roll snarling? (best examples of this phenomenon are on Sketches For My Sweetheart the Drunk (and yes I realize that by admitting to having heard that album I've just outed myself as someone who went through a total Jeff Buckley fanboy phase))
― bernard snowy, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:27 (sixteen years ago) link
So I downloaded it and I've thought about it some more, regarding the release strategy. I think the smart thing was making someone like myself even consider the money again.
In soulseek or oink or bit torrent, when I get money, I feel like I'm a world where all music is raining from the sky and equally free, flowing from some source that is a step removed from the artist. Here I actually get it for free, but the artist themselves are bringing up the idea, not forcing me, just reminding me that they are offering a good or service - something that they spent time and money on - but it's also art, it's music, its this thing they built inherently to be for everyone. I think it's smart not because of the guilt trip I feel in not paying (although that happened), it's just a cognizance on the part of the band that this would've entered the domain of Free Music Everywhere that is currently the norm no matter what, and reminding me and people like me that this music came from someone.
I'm sure this is all very obvious and pedestrian to say and I don't even like Radiohead that much, but these are the things I think hours after downloading it for free, about to go back and donate some money.
― filthy dylan, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:31 (sixteen years ago) link
That first use of "money" should have been music.
― filthy dylan, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link
i'm noticing a weird chop/edit around 3:25 on 15 Step. anyone else hear this? i don't know if it's the song or my file is wonky.
― LaMonte, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:36 (sixteen years ago) link
so this is shareware, huh?
― sleeve, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:41 (sixteen years ago) link
Well, after an evening of Radiohead holiday, reality slaps me in the face as my girlfriend walks in, politely listens to 15 Step and Bodysnatchers, and then asks me to turn it off so she can watch that reality show about the restaurants that suck until the one guy comes in and makes them not suck, while making people cry.
Seeya tomorrow, Radiohead.
― Z S, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:44 (sixteen years ago) link
that show sounds tight
― Curt1s Stephens, Thursday, 11 October 2007 01:50 (sixteen years ago) link
haven't read this thread but just finish hearing this for the first time.
WoW! the production is amazing.
― Bee OK, Thursday, 11 October 2007 03:35 (sixteen years ago) link
what sort of music is like this and 'everything in it's right place'?
not sure why, but EIIRP has always reminded me of In a Silent Way
― ryan, Thursday, 11 October 2007 04:36 (sixteen years ago) link
I'm in the middle of an exam paper now but here's some extra quick thoughts:
1. they sound looser and more comfortable than they ever have. 2. This is a record for the fans: it's got some rockers, and it's got some weird, woozy stuff, it's got a mix of both, and it's got stuff from the past. 3. It might be their most immediate record since The Bends, yet I'm still hearing new stuff with each listen. (have played it about 4 times since yesterday) 4. "Reckoner"/"Jigsaw Falling Into Place" are awesome. 5. I got cut off at 30 mbs most likely not because of Radiohead but because i was on my shitty uni network. i emailed waste and they replied back relatively quickly with a new activation code, so kudos to those guys. 5. Because Radiohead are great, whoever works for them at waste are great, and because I love this record, I feel like paying for the damn discbox now.
― Roz, Thursday, 11 October 2007 04:50 (sixteen years ago) link
I listened to it three times today and I can't say I'm too thrilled with it. "15 Step" and "Bodysnatchers" get me all excited and then the rest is just this depressing, formless meltdown. More "poor me" mope-fest Radiohead is the last thing I wanted from them. And WTF "Reckoner" is an entirely different song than the balls-to-the-wall rock and roll song called "Reckoner" they did on tour in 2001.
But fine, I've said my peace, I'll leave it to those who appreciate it.
― Bimble, Thursday, 11 October 2007 05:44 (sixteen years ago) link