PS.. is it 5? I think we're on 5 now. PS5

what's the point? wait a couple years and see if sony actually continues to deliver decent exclusives. current gen console quality has never been an indicator of next gen console quality. i've come to expect the inverse lately.

i mean, wow?
https://www.unrealengine.com/en-US/blog/a-first-look-at-unreal-engine-5

Knack 3 will be phenomenal

wow!

i got bored after 10 minutes but it does look nice

UE4 demo for comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD9CPqSKjTU

I don't have a PS4 but I guess it took a bit for PS4 games to get as good as the demo?

never believe the demo is a good rule of thumb, but that UE4 looks worse than god of war honestly.

never believe the demo is a good rule of thumb, but that UE4 looks worse than god of war honestly.

I can't tell if this is a put-down or not (honestly!). Because I just (barely) started God of War a couple of weeks ago, and not only thought it looked great, but thought that PS5 Unreal 5 demo was maybe technically better quality, down to the little programmer details, but not to my maybe weak eyes radically better, good as it looked.

i got bored after 10 minutes but it does look nice

Um, isn't the video 9 minutes long? No wonder you got bored.

the demo should be reasonably representative for what constrained area/camera games like god of war or whatever will look like, open world games have more technical hurdles obviously

Looks fantastic

https://kotaku.com/playstation-5-game-showcase-happening-next-thursday-1843754372

https://blog.playstation.com/2020/06/08/updated-time-this-thursday-see-the-future-of-gaming-on-ps5/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

will be watching.

give us a fuckin price sony

Not buying until gta6 comes out

well duh

(been my rule for the past two ps machines)

I have a PS4 Slim and I've been very happy with it, so much so that I'm not sure what a PS5 would give me that I don't already have or want in a machine. Besides exclusives, I guess, but that stuff is totally under wraps, given that hyped heavy hitters Last of Us 2, Cyberpunk 2077 and Ghost of Tsushima are coming out for PS4.

there is no point in buying a new console until there are games worth playing on it, idk why people even humor the thought of buying near launch

clout

fanboys + people who didnt have the previous box

I have Gamespot gift cards and GS is near death and my PS4 optical drive is dead. First time I’ll be buying a new system ASAP.

GTA though? Man, that’s been downhill from 4 on.

It would be be Spider-Man 2 for me. But I don't know, something about the general anxiety of this year might lead to just get this and maybe the MS one too

So just caught the Demon's Souls remake, what else have I missed/

HZD sequel so you better play the first one sooner than later!

Eh, I've got a couple of years before I even consider PS5.

FUGLY

better have good cooling because that's going in a drawer

that is seriously rank

looks like a router

We didn't get a price, right?

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcSRLTTP_t9wdIH4DSZkdDTRhcsTe32JKmHqg7pVKQ1gMu4CCOYr&usqp=CAU

only $1.00, nice!

im predicting it'll be usd450 for the digital only one and 500 for the one with the drive

damn that's one ugly console, can it even lie on its side

The one with the drive looks worse than the other one

almost seems... intentional...

xp it looks way better on its side

https://i.ibb.co/Lvz1zCn/Ea-Qt-TQ-Ws-AEpej-P.jpg

well, maybe not 'way' better. ya I kinda like the design but it's huge and I hate the white

also looks very breakable
that said, Spider-Man: Miles Morales fuck yeah i think they got me

should have sniped the xbox's hajj aesthetic

so you need a stand to lay it flat?
yes v breakable white plactic labia lol

looks like a venue at the qatar world cup

looks like a robot's vag

great so we'll all have filthy looking consoles after a year

white plactic labia lol

lol, I'm glad I'm not the only one whose mind immediately went there.

hasn't been a nice looking console in years idk what everyone was expecting

i think the fat ps2 (laid on its side) was the last design i actually liked

Dammit which thread are we using?

great so we'll all have filthy looking consoles after a year

― Ste, Thursday, June 11, 2020 5:43 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

i feel like the wii managed to stay pretty clean looking for an all white console

360s otoh would like shit after a month

wow this playstation fucks

there's not much of a market for the Sony VR by the sounds of it, there are reports that they've ceased production as the supply chain is choked with unsold stock. also they recently closed two studios who were working on VR games. next stop Vitaville!

Yeah, lol, sounds like no one really gives a shit. But in this case I meant a literal market. If someone wants VR, you need a VR set. If someone wants portable, you need a portable device. But from my perspective I'm not seeing what someone would want out of a PS5 Pro, given the PS5 itself ultimately didn't seem to fill a need. I suppose we'll see, or maybe not. I personally can barely discern stuff like ray tracing even when it's pointed out, and even the nerds at Digital Foundry could barely tell the difference between the upgrade PS4 version of Last of Us 2 and the native PS5 version. Maybe we'll have to wait for the PS6 edition Last of Us 2 Remastered-Remaster 2.

This is what pretty much every console upgrade will be from now on, imo, even the PS6. Most games do not require the advanced specs of even the base PS5. It's like an iPhone upgrade at this point.

I think that's probably right. A lot of current chatter is wondering whether the PS6 specs will enable 60fps for GTAVI (for those that care), but given the PS5 underdelivered on those sorts of promises I can't imagine full faith in similar promises going forward. (Hell, given Rockstars's track record, GTAVI will probably be locked at 30fps, lol.)

There is still the occasional game where playing the PS4 version on PS5 reportedly works *better* than the native PS5 version; that's supposedly the case with Elden Ring, right? Other than that the biggest difference I see between PS4 and PS5 games is loading times and, I dunno, the amount of foliage or whatever. For that matter, some of the best looking games on the PS5 are essentially from the PS4 era, like TLOU2 (four years old) or Horizon Forbidden West (two years old). I'm not sure how much the latest Spidermans or God of War improve on their PS4 predecessors, either, not least because there was nothing wrong with the PS4 versions.

Anyway, I'd prefer Sony spends its money on games rather than systems. I'd hate for them to set in motion some sort of fait accompli, where an underselling system convinces them to shift focus from consoles to PCs.

Games definitely don't have to be visually state of the art or whatever but I find it pleasant to play newer games on newer hardware and I think that's one of the motivating factors for a reasonable subset of game developers and players

Given that they don't sell PCs, I don't see that happening. The Playstation division is profitable, but it exists largely to help sell their home entertainment hardware. I think they'd offload or dissolve the Playstation unit before they'd shift to PC game development as their primary focus.

I dunno, it all seems kind of precarious right now. Isn't Xbox/Microsoft kind of a shambles? And there have been so many game industry layoffs. The focus (and failure?) of games as a live service smells of cash flow desperation. Or maybe just greed, who knows.

every industry that creates entertainment is in shambles! the movie studios are going nuts cutting back their schedules and wondering why they aren’t making a ton of money. probably because people can’t attend movies that aren’t released or not even filmed!

video games had some weird times with the pandemic both driving more gaming and diminishing the supply chain and no one’s figured out a balance

There are enough games. I don't understand the problem. Everybody has a huge backlog of unplayed amazing games. Everybody could just stop releasing games for like 2 years, give everyone a chance to catch up, work on really good stuff. Same for movies and books. Enough! I'm looking at the Forgotten Novels thread and it's like, there's no way to enjoy everything that already exists anyway. Don't stop forever, just stop for like... a little bit. Breathe. It's fine!

Most people just play Fortnite anyway

Yes!

I'd be fine with everybody putting a pause on releasing anything.

Well, GRR Martin should definitely finish up GoT before he croaks at least.

Though if he dedicates himself to developing the lore for all future From Soft games I'd be cool with that.

"developing"

If gta 6 is locked at 30 fps I will cry

lol that’d be good for us but everything is a huge engine of market-facing stock, unfortunately. I guess Sony could go all-in on library and indie game stuff for a year but they’d still have to be pumping money into things behind the scenes or we get nothing in the next few years. these things don’t immaculately spring from the forehead of PS5

also I am heading calstars’ copy is locked at 24fps for the cinema

That’s what I mean, just keep workin away at idk Gran Turismo 18 or whatever and give us a couple of years to 100% Disco Elysium

I like this line of thinking Tracer, long as I get Persona 6 in the next couple of years

Well, we've already discussed Sony announcing a long wait for new first party releases, I wonder if this means they are hoping their completion coincides with the release of the Pro.

but yeah, too many games, lol. I'm trying to stay disciplined with the stuff on my wishlist. The new Prince of Persia, Lords of the Fallen, Lies of P, Last of Us Part 1 Remake, et al. ... $20 or bust!

thank you for supporting the games economy

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/002/182/171/eb0.jpg

I think the only (non-Nintendo) game - new, used, physical or digital - I have ever paid full price for was "Elden Ring". It's a good question, though: if all games were $50-$70 and *stayed* $50-$70, how many games would I ever actually buy? A lot fewer, that's for sure. It'd honestly probably be an incentive to pay for PS+ or whatever.

aren't you buying three or four for every one you play, though?

For sure, that's the collector in me. But those three or four are usually $12 or less, new or used, which helps justify impulse purchases (if waiting for prices to fall that low can be considered impulsive, though many new or used PS4 games seem to be hovering around that price point anyway).

Money is finite, gaming is forever

I endorse your fiscal decisions Josh

(tips hat)

Maybe because reading one news article becomes a self-perpetuating algorithmic cycle of repetition, but I keep getting served stories about the PS5 Pro built around the premise: why?