The Velvet Underground 3rd album poll

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my copy of 3rd album came via that peel slowly and see box so i always listened to the closet mix until i started recently playing VU on spotify A LOT (i've 'rediscovered' a lot of my favourite classic albums from when I was a teen 'horses', 'transformer' and I like them more now than i did then). I had never liked some kinda love and suddenly its like my favourite, it took a relisten to the closet mix before I realised why. that fn cowbell, the missing guitar. Its wrong.

plax (ico), Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:52 (four years ago) link

It's fuckin' great is what it is.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:53 (four years ago) link

nah

plax (ico), Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link

More intimate, it's like Lou is actually pouring jelly on your shoulder.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Thursday, 16 April 2020 10:57 (four years ago) link

for me the correct version of any VU song will always be "the one with the highest # of guitars"

turn the jawhatthefuckever on (One Eye Open), Thursday, 16 April 2020 12:16 (four years ago) link

one year passes...

Not sure if I've ever seen the full Lester Bangs' review of this looks from Rolling Stone before (one of his earliest bylines):

ORIGINAL ROLLING STONE REVIEW

The Velvet Underground are alive and well (which in itself may surprise some people) and ever-changing. How do you define a group like this, who moved from "Heroin" to "Jesus" in two short-years? It is not enough to say that they have one of the broadest ranges of any group extant; this should be apparent to anyone who has listened closely to their three albums. The real question is what this music is about — smack, meth, deviate sex and drugdreams, or something deeper?

Their spiritual odyssey ranges from an early blast of sadomasochistic self-loathing called "I'm So F***ed Up," through the furious nihilism of "Heroin" and the metaphysical quest implied in the words "I'm searching for my mainline," to this album, which combines almost overpowering musical lyricism with deeply yearning, compassionate lyrics to let us all know that they are finally "Beginning to See the Light."

Can this be that same bunch of junkie — f***ot — sadomasochist — speed — freaks who roared their anger and their pain in storms of screaming feedback and words spat out like strings of epithets? Yes. Yes, it can, and this is perhaps the most important lesson the Velvet Underground: the power of the human soul to transcend its darker levels.

The songs on this album are about equally divided between the subjects of love and freedom. So many of them are about love, in fact, that one wonders if Lou Reed, the malevolent Burroughsian Death Dwarf who had previously never written a complimentary song about anybody, has not himself fallen in love. The opening song, "Candy Says," is about a young girl who would like to "know completely what the others so discreetly talk about." The fact that this and about half the other tracks on the album are ballads marks another radical departure for the Velvets. The next track is a deep throbbing thing in which he chides perhaps the same girl for her confusion with a great chorus: "Lady be good/Do what you should/You know it'll be alright." John Cale's organ work on this track is stark and spare and, as usual, brilliant — this time as much for what he leaves out as what he puts in.

Then there is "Some Kinda Love," a grooving Latiny thing, somewhat like Donovan but much more earthy, and with words that will kill you: "Put the jelly on your shoulder/Let us do what you feel most/That from which you recoil/Uh still makes your eyes moist."

Perhaps the greatest surprise here is "Jesus," a prayer no less. The yearning for the state of grace reflected ther culminates in "I'm Set Free," a joyous hymn of liberation. The Velvets never seemed so beautifully close to the Byrds before.

The album is unfortunately not without its weak "tracks though. "The Murder Mystery" is an eight minute exercise in aural overload that annoys after a few listenings, and "Pale Blue Eyes" is a folky ballad that never really gets off the ground either musically or lyrically. On the whole I didn't feel that this album matched up to White Light/White Heat, but it will still go a long way toward convincing the unbelievers that the Velvet Underground can write and play any kind of music they want to with equal brilliance.

~ Lester Bangs (May 17, 1969)

Lolz at him not 'getting' PBE.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 March 2022 12:26 (two years ago) link

Don't know where that 'looks' came from.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 March 2022 12:27 (two years ago) link

Also: his misattribution of Cale playing on WGO = The first printed slight to Doug Yule?

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 21 March 2022 12:30 (two years ago) link

The songs on this album are about equally divided between the subjects of love and freedom.

boy, it's odd reading writers in their embryonic phase.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2022 12:30 (two years ago) link

Never seen that either. Considering his love for WL/WH, and also that he would have been 21 at the time, I think that's an okay review. I've always been so-so on "Pale Blue Eyes" myself (aware that I'm very much in the minority there).

clemenza, Monday, 21 March 2022 13:03 (two years ago) link

I'm in the same boat with "Pale Blue Eyes", beautiful playing but some of those rhymes are real groaners even by Lou standards imo

an early blast of sadomasochistic self-loathing called "I'm So F***ed Up,"

what is this referring to?

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 21 March 2022 14:55 (two years ago) link

I had the same question

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 March 2022 14:56 (two years ago) link

Weirdly enough--I'm sure it's the very thing most people love about "Pale Blue Eyes"--I've never warmed to the melody...Not sure about "I'm So F***ed Up" either. I thought at first it was a bootleg recording, but surely those are all known and catalogued extensively by now. Maybe it's meant as a joke title for one of the album tracks.

clemenza, Monday, 21 March 2022 15:44 (two years ago) link

Peter Laughner had a song with that name and was an early VU freak. I thought he and Bangs didn't know each other til a few years after this, but maybe it's an in-joke?

city worker, Monday, 21 March 2022 15:49 (two years ago) link

"Jesus" > "Pale Blue Eyes"

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2022 15:50 (two years ago) link

If Bangs had seen them live by 1969, maybe it was an off-the-cuff title given to a jam?

I'm in the not-so-fond of "Pale Blue Eyes" camp, along with Sterling Morrison, who thought it was too personal for the band to play.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 21 March 2022 15:53 (two years ago) link

Don’t really know how much I like “Pale Blue Eyes” either but I just located my letter never sent ballot for the VU poll from seven no eight years ago and it was on there so I guess there must be something about it that does appeal to me.

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 March 2022 16:04 (two years ago) link

btw I still like "Pale Blue Eyes," I'm just burned out.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2022 16:06 (two years ago) link

Right, maybe that’s it

Mardi Gras Mambo Sun (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 21 March 2022 16:09 (two years ago) link

Man, I love "Pale Blue Eyes" - the solo alone is absolutely beautiful.

I always associate the studio recording with Andy Warhol's famous footage of Nico from Chelsea Girls - the song wasn't used in that film (which was released a few years earlier), but there's at least one documentary that paired it up with that footage to great effect. It may be a mismatch of VU eras, but they fit each other so well.

birdistheword, Monday, 21 March 2022 16:27 (two years ago) link

That solo is a vibrating dewdrop.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2022 16:29 (two years ago) link

xpost yeah, the South Bank Show thing.

Mark G, Monday, 21 March 2022 16:46 (two years ago) link


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