Which of the Indiana Jones sequels is the best?

formatting ate the six pages of a gap i put in before skulls

formatting recognises they're all bad

i think this is the longest i've seen an indie thread go without a defense of temple of doom

i was gonna but look who needs the beasting

In a thousand years even Temple of Doom may be worth something

my favorite of the four

One part that made me laugh on last rewatching Raiders was the map room scene, where this elaborate set of clues has to be followed in order to… point at the central building on the map?

and the nazis were digging in the wrong place because.. the staff they were using was too short. but why was it too short? i must have missed that during the basket carrying caper.

annoying that marian's genius, signposted escape-via-drinking-game plan just totally.. came to nothing

Belloq's staff was too long!

too long? surely that cuts against a few national stereotypes

It's revealed a little later. The two sides of the medallion together give the right staff length, and the Nazis only had one side, the one that was burned into the Gestapo guy's hand.

aaand take back one kadam, to honor the Hebrew god whose ark this is

that scene with the imam is my favorite indy scene ever

Sallah bursting into Gilbert and Sullivan.

xp lol yeah, the take back one kadam guy is really great. We should do a poll of indiana jones characters with 5 lines or less

100% the monkey

snake

I loved Dietrich.

"M'sieu? I am...uncomfortable with this...Jewish ritual."

"LOVE YOU" girl

You can hear a few muffled comments from the class as they're filing out.

"He's just off today, must be all that travel."

"Every time I see him he looks more like [something something]"

LOVE YOU girl rules

... and his reaction! ‘Flustered’ I guess.

... and his reaction! ‘Flustered’ I guess.

... and his reaction! ‘Flustered’ I guess.

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I rewatched last year for the first time in decades and was v impressed with the presentation of the title, had no memory of that.

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― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, July 13, 2016 5:06 PM (four years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Still can’t figure out what this is showing.

imdb score!

Star Trek: The Motion Picture (the “V-Ger” one) apparently scored so low it couldn’t even fit.

Watched TEMPLE OF DOOM last night for the first time in eons. The kid was ready for it.

It's def a good one. I think now I'd probably rank it as the second-best Indy flick, just due to the sheer pacing of the thing (it's a vv fast two hours), with a classic opening leading cleanly into the main storyline without pausing, and a sense of genuine foreboding leading up to the palace sequence. I think it's a relatively *distant* second to Raiders, but that doesn't mean this isn't classic.

The gore isn't that bad here, you take away the sacrifice sequence and there's no much onscreen grisliness. But the tone and atmosphere makes it feel worse. Even the brief scene of Indy going into the black sleep or w/e has a disturbing feel, not to mention the forced blood drinking/voodoo doll torture/whipping scene immediately preceding it. It's crazy that it's not inconceivable a lot of this might get it an R today, forget a PG-13.

Kate Capshaw, not bad. She can be grating sure, but she frequently just simply looks amazing and she plays well off Harrison Ford. A bit of Melinda Dillon in her appearance I think?

Ke Huy Quan is really terrific here, it's a genuinely really fine performance which is funny but somehow doesn't descend into him being an annoying sidekick. It could have been so easy, but he can be very funny and even moving.

I probably need to rewatch it. I saw it when it was first released and was appalled.

Genuinely not sure it’s worth the effort or credibility hit it takes to defend DOOM anymore … but its still the only Indy I ever have any desire to rewatch, in parts or in full

Eric and omar otm

The second is the best and Kate Capeshaw is one of my favorite post-screwball screwballs ("Ohh I broke a nail...").

― go down on you in a thyatrr (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, June 5, 2012

I'll defend her for playing a cartoon character with totally committed cartoonishness...yet she also imbues a couple lines with unexpected pathos, i.e. explaining how her grandpa was beloved by kids for his magic tricks but died "a very poor man."

Short Round would need to ascend to annoying sidekick

I was told I have a very loud voice after a screening of this in a local beer theater. I shouldn’t have said “oh shit, here come the white people to save them!” so loudly at the end

I always remember Last Crusade getting a lot of (revisionist?) criticism for Last Crusade and what Jeffrey Boam et al did to the characters, but other than making both Brody and Sallah into more comic relief characters(when a lot of their screen time in the first one was to underline the gravitas of the situation), I can’t see it.

Last Crusade is the worst, most bloodless, and most worthless thing Spielberg was ever associated with. Including The Goonies

Last Crusade was terrible, there are two good Indiana Jones films only, the whole "explaining the hat / explaining the snakes" bit was terrible and unnecessary and created a terrible backstory-explaining precedent that was ultimately responsible for midichlorians and Prometheus

Doom revisionism baffling af itt

Last Crusade has plenty of fun set pieces to make the River Phoenix intro and "lol Indy and his dad banged the same Nazi!" forgivable IMO. (It was one of the first four grown-up movies I saw in a theater along with Field of Dreams and Hunt for Red October, my rose-colored glasses for all three will be forever undimmed. Also Star Trek V but I hated it even then.)

Love Temple Of Doom yeah.

Goose-stepping morons such as yourself should try reading books instead of burning them!

the best bit in the first one is how the ark death angels tidy up after themselves, now THAT'S what i call a secret weapon

not a bone in sight! It's like they're the workers who clean up airplanes as the passengers stagger offboard.

no wonder they're so vengeful

I watched Black Rain last night, noticed that Kate Capshaw was in it although not much. I love her in Temple though.

Didn't even know she was Spielbergs wife.

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My recollection is her part in Black rain is, based upon her role in Temple of doom, pretty solid subsequent typecasting.

I don't think TOD really steps wrong that much, unless you're not down with its particular "thing", which is understandable. Last crusade is a lot of fun but it's a film afflicted in a lot of key aspects by a lot of the most tedious blockbuster bullshit. For example I don't think turning Brody and Sallah into unserious comic relief characters is a small thing. Their sharpness and incisiveness and sober qualities in the first film really helped sell the whole damn thing. The River Phoenix prologue was pretty bad. The villains are pretty minor league and a lot of it just feels like an effort to overcorrect after TOD.

it's kinda like what was done with the Rise of Skywalker after Last Jedi, though I want to clarify that I think Last Crusade is a good and fun film and not a terrible and stupid one, unlike ROS.