^^^
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Friday, 10 April 2020 16:34 (four years ago) link
Pliny also complains, "There is no year in which India does not drain the Roman Empire of 50 million sesterces", and further moralizes on pepper: It is quite surprising that the use of pepper has come so much into fashion, seeing that in other substances which we use, it is sometimes their sweetness, and sometimes their appearance that has attracted our notice; whereas, pepper has nothing in it that can plead as a recommendation to either fruit or berry, its only desirable quality being a certain pungency; and yet it is for this that we import it all the way from India! Who was the first to make trial of it as an article of food? and who, I wonder, was the man that was not content to prepare himself by hunger only for the satisfying of a greedy appetite?— Pliny, Natural History 12.14
It is quite surprising that the use of pepper has come so much into fashion, seeing that in other substances which we use, it is sometimes their sweetness, and sometimes their appearance that has attracted our notice; whereas, pepper has nothing in it that can plead as a recommendation to either fruit or berry, its only desirable quality being a certain pungency; and yet it is for this that we import it all the way from India! Who was the first to make trial of it as an article of food? and who, I wonder, was the man that was not content to prepare himself by hunger only for the satisfying of a greedy appetite?
— Pliny, Natural History 12.14
― speaking moistly (Sanpaku), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link
Pliny notm
― silby, Friday, 10 April 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link
Side note: Greek and Roman philosophers were a pretty ascetic group on the whole. They did a lot of moralizing about cookery in general and tended to frown upon anyone wanting food to be tasty or wanting a highly varied diet. Even Epicurus, who bestowed his name on epicureanism, counseled a very simple and moderate diet, but on the grounds of health, not morality.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link
pEGGper, like a bird's egg!
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 10 April 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link
I was listening to a Epicurus discussion on the wireless the other week. Was impressed that he was quite accurately imagining atoms and matter at a subatomic level and stuff.
― calzino, Friday, 10 April 2020 18:56 (four years ago) link
as the crow flies...
― kinder, Friday, 10 April 2020 19:25 (four years ago) link
lol
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Friday, 10 April 2020 19:33 (four years ago) link
There's a chapter about black pepper in the book "Eight Flavors: The Untold Story of American Cuisine" (which is a fascinating, fun read). It specifically cites an American who, searching for an alternative supply of spices post revolution, discovered a secret source of pepper in Sumatra and became massively wealthy (one Jonathan Carnes, a Salem, MA captain who sailed there in 1795 and brought home 100,000 to 150,000 pounds of pepper that sold for 37 cents a pound and produced a 700 percent profit). There are stories about its preservative qualities; iirc they would fill every inch of the ship with pepper, including coffins, which not only kept the bodies intact but allowed them to ship back even more pepper. Found some more info here:
https://www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/jonathan-carnes-corners-pepper-market-1795/
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 April 2020 19:45 (four years ago) link
i roast my black peppercorns like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWVthXiQILk
and usually combine it with non-roasted ground pepper in whatever i cook, tastes very good, you should try it
― ℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Friday, 10 April 2020 19:52 (four years ago) link
woo wooooooo black pepper! Duhduhduh duh duh
― brimstead, Friday, 10 April 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link
Cacio e Pepe and carbonara are what really made me “get” black pepper, and I had a crazy ceviche dish at a Mexican seafood restaurant in LA that featured it prominently - I never put it in Mexican food because it just doesn’t taste right but it was so unbelievably good and necessary in that dish that I still pause and think about it longingly.
― joygoat, Friday, 10 April 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link
Pliny would have loved this place and would pick up his fair share of FPs
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Friday, 10 April 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link
ukilxors would've dragged him for being a posho
― silby, Friday, 10 April 2020 22:06 (four years ago) link
I mean
"Hail to thee, Nature, thou parent of all things! and do thou deign to show thy favour unto me, who, alone of all the citizens of Rome, have, in thy every department, thus made known thy praise."
is the 'I would like to point put I have been otm in this thread" of its time
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Friday, 10 April 2020 22:09 (four years ago) link
xp exactly :)
your protest vote; vote for who you’d like I don’t care
― Mordy, Sunday, 12 April 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link
saturday night livezoom
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 13 April 2020 20:34 (four years ago) link
otm x2
― coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Monday, 13 April 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
5G
― Maresn3st, Monday, 13 April 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link
Yeah I don't remember any fuss about all the other Gs, isn't this just like extra razor blades?
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 13 April 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link
Come on, are you telling me you don't want to watch the Benny Hill Show on your phone in 5d?
― calzino, Monday, 13 April 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link
I've kept to a three blade razor for over a decade. Whoever the G guys are will hate me as much as Giilette.
― Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Monday, 13 April 2020 21:08 (four years ago) link
I only just got my first smartphone 18 months ago. I got two g's! one for texting my mum and one for my ilx flagging app.
― calzino, Monday, 13 April 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link
It is, as they say, a G thang.
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 13 April 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link
Disney anything. Don’t care.
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Monday, 13 April 2020 22:05 (four years ago) link
Karens. Don't even know what it means, don't care to find out.
― quartet for the endocrine (Matt #2), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:27 (four years ago) link
too late!
WHAT DOES KAREN MEAN?Karen is a mocking slang term for an entitled, obnoxious, middle-aged white woman. Especially as featured in memes, Karen is generally stereotyped as having a blonde bob haircut, asking to speak to retail and restaurant managers to voice complaints or make demands, and being a nagging, often divorced mother from Generation X.
https://www.dictionary.com/e/slang/karen/Karen
― let me be your friend on the other end! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link
All memes shall pass
― quartet for the endocrine (Matt #2), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link
Karenmeme Abdul-Jabbar
― Fleetwood Machiavelli (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 18:40 (four years ago) link
Michael Jordan and his ridiculous 10-hour hagiography. No way am I watching that shit.
― Mr. Snrub, Saturday, 18 April 2020 23:28 (four years ago) link
youtubers or ilxors who mimic trump
― Dan S, Saturday, 18 April 2020 23:37 (four years ago) link
Mostly I'd agree, but I think that one guy I posted is an exception--not just the voice but his uncanny syntax and absurdly spot-on self-aggrandizement--and Karl Malone is an exception, and there are always exceptions.
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 01:01 (four years ago) link
don’t want to see anybody fetishizing his stupid way of speaking, it’s not interesting, let’s put an end to it
― Dan S, Sunday, 19 April 2020 01:46 (four years ago) link
I think it's a long tradition. Nixon, Joe McCarthy, they all had imitators.
― clemenza, Sunday, 19 April 2020 01:55 (four years ago) link
Well, well, well.
-- Ronald Reagan --
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 19 April 2020 01:58 (four years ago) link
Imitating a president?
Wouldn't be prudent.
― molon labe, kemo sabe (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 19 April 2020 15:54 (four years ago) link
Did Bush Sr ever actually say that or does everyone just remember it from the Dana Carvey impression?
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Sunday, 19 April 2020 17:51 (four years ago) link
mr. snrub . . . otm?
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 April 2020 20:47 (four years ago) link
oh i will definitely watch that.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 19 April 2020 21:36 (four years ago) link
MJ was an inventive, supremely skilled, epoch defining, relentlessly competitive, arrogant asshole.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 19 April 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link
Now that he doesn't play any more, he's just an arrogant asshole.
you forgot to mention that he's a billionaire but that may be implied
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 19 April 2020 21:43 (four years ago) link
over/under on hours spent by wilbon, on screen, just relentlessly tonguing MJ's ass: 1.5
there is a guy who has no other frame of reference for anything
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 April 2020 23:49 (four years ago) link
the Other Music documentary (sorry)
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 20 April 2020 11:46 (four years ago) link
Um,yeah maybe
― Together Again Or (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 April 2020 12:34 (four years ago) link
100% agreement. I spent a fair amount of money there once upon a time (it was my third or fourth favorite record store in that part of NYC in the early 2000s, after Tower on 4th & Broadway and Mondo Kim's and possibly Downtown Music Gallery), but what kind of person would want to watch a documentary about a goddamn record store?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 20 April 2020 12:57 (four years ago) link
People might want to when even fewer of them exist in a few months.
― Chris L, Monday, 20 April 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
it's just that *this* record store, where I too spent a lot of money, would seem to lack the qualities that would merit a documentary. I was bummed when it closed but it's hard to feel anything like nostalgia for it...it was never exactly the warmest place, or staffed with "characters"....it's not like it has some deep, rich history. It was just a kind of a sterile place w/ a nicely curated inventory.
I will prpbably end up watching it some day though.
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 20 April 2020 13:38 (four years ago) link
I saw a still from this film of Chloe Sevigny browsing the racks, and that pretty much cemented my decision to skip it
― Paul Ponzi, Monday, 20 April 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link