Even if you had low hopes they pretty much got dashed yesterday! I thought there might be some Kier voters despairing at a shadow cab with Streeting and JP.
― calzino, Friday, 10 April 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link
messaging w/ ppl and I can tell they're hoping I'm going to offer some rousing morale-boosting sentiments and I'm just holding off on saying "mb see how it's going in 4-10 years??"
― ogmor, Friday, 10 April 2020 14:18 (four years ago) link
I think that timescale might be oppomistic, but these aren't ordinary times.. You never know.
― calzino, Friday, 10 April 2020 14:25 (four years ago) link
Phone typing whilst walking!
― calzino, Friday, 10 April 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVMUCIMWoAAZrMy?format=jpg&name=large
― roxymuzak otm (gyac), Friday, 10 April 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link
That one's a doozy! But Sir Kier is offering Jimmy Savile badges to nurses tbf!
― calzino, Friday, 10 April 2020 14:28 (four years ago) link
Keir's letter was only the start of it....
― Mark G, Friday, 10 April 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Monday, 13 April 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
Fucking lol
‘The Labour Party’ isn’t a person. It doesn’t care if you break up with it. It isn’t going to change its ways because you sulk and refuse to talk to it for a year.— Jeremy Gilbert (@jemgilbert) April 13, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 13 April 2020 09:52 (four years ago) link
By the time my trade union processes the necessary paperwork for my subs to be switched to the non-affiliated political fund, the world as we currently understand it won't exist anyway
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 9 April 2020 23:21 (four days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Turns out Emilie Oldknow is their Assistant General Secretary now, so I guess there's a quicker solution
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 13 April 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link
xp he's right, it's not going to change its ways
― reality disliker (Left), Monday, 13 April 2020 16:14 (four years ago) link
what's the new party going to be called* then lads
*at this point the name is probably the most important bit. don't fuck this up whatever you do. examples of fuck-ups: 'momentum'; 'society'; 'people's party'
― ban laggy jazzer (imago), Monday, 13 April 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link
The Workshy Allstar Teadrinker's Society of North
― mindthoughts: the brainening (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 13 April 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
missy eliot's song 'fremme neppa venette'
― El Tomboto, Monday, 13 April 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
The Dangerous Alliance
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Monday, 13 April 2020 16:56 (four years ago) link
needs to have a party crest with a guillotine on it.
― calzino, Monday, 13 April 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 00:01 (four years ago) link
melts
― reality disliker (Left), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 01:12 (four years ago) link
I didn't vote (because I don't vote in polls almost never) but this is really good.
When a left-wing friend stood for election in my union, he had massive support. His opponent had none. On the day of the election, the right-wing branch said there’s an allegation of corruption against him. No details were given, but “we must suspend the election for a month”.— Tony Collins (@_tony_c_) April 14, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link
can't remember if i voted in this or not but -- im not going anywhere yet, although the sub fees would be handy for a sandwich. But I'll wait til the NEC vote at least, and/or Suck Here goes full mask off.
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 13:21 (four years ago) link
I suppose Magid Magid could always Green leader
― ban laggy jazzer (imago), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
with no conference this year is there anything to even do as members
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link
Forward Momentum Vs Renewal Momentum poll
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:46 (three years ago) link
fwd ftw
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Thursday, 21 May 2020 13:59 (three years ago) link
yeah it's a weird contest but it's no contest
― come out you melts and bams (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 May 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
Our fantastic new Shadow Cabinet are also going to be running a series of online policy discussions
lol I'm still getting emails in my junk folder from Sir K despite cancelling the dd months ago. Maybe you shouldn't have put Reeves in there if "fantastic" was your goal, arsehole! I agree with what reeves said in 2015 now tbf, Labour isn't the party for the likes of me at all anymore... no problemo.. bye !
― calzino, Thursday, 21 May 2020 16:11 (three years ago) link
This person has criticised forward momentum here a bit.
https://tribunemag.co.uk/2020/05/where-momentum-went-wrong
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 10:40 (three years ago) link
I really like this piece.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 10:43 (three years ago) link
Yeah I saw that. I think it's pretty astute on how momentum fitted into the UK left over the last decade, the changes and continuity, and some of the structural problems given the nature of the org. I think he tends towards a narrow prescriptive - 'rigorous'! - workerism that has no chance of building an effective coalition though.
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:11 (three years ago) link
I am not sure what could build an effective coalition but I liked most of his five points. Good luck to him.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:27 (three years ago) link
I'm just thinking that the vagueness/openness of Momentum was a big part of what made it unique and large, the narrower it gets, the more it becomes like just another pre-2015 leftist org. the fourth and fifth points seem like vague dreams rather than plans (if there's one thing I've learned about 'the masses' it's that they don't exist), but the third seems clearly right to me. I think there's a balance between decentralization on one hand and having some high profile figure heads to keep some good energy going at a national level, but building better-organised central bodies for educating ppl/dealing with trade unions etc. seems unappealing to me as a main focus, even if it might be necessary. the best momentum things imo were just creating ways for people to network and get involved as they saw fit.
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 11:47 (three years ago) link
The 4th is a bit of a non-starter. I read the 5th as developing responses to how the right utilise the at times positives that people can throw at things, such as 'flexible working' and the like.
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 May 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link
the biggest problem with all of this is still the assumption that working with Labour is still necessary or desirable (or that it ever was tbh)
if the legacy of corbynism becomes people who once knew better banging their heads against the wall of this miserable party for the rest of their lives then what a disaster
― no (Left), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:06 (three years ago) link
why are even the "radical" parts of the UK Left so damn conservative
― no (Left), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 13:08 (three years ago) link
xxp if that means reworking/redefining flexible working into something un-shit rather than telling ppl they are wrong for wanting it then I am onboard. reading 'mass engagement in community organisation' just makes my eyes glaze over though at this point.
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Tuesday, 26 May 2020 14:06 (three years ago) link
David Evans
fuck this clown car party
― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 10:50 (three years ago) link
At this point I don't give a shit about Labour getting into power any more, fucking Starmer regime is going to be even closer to Blairism than Milliband was. Starmer has made me despise them more than the Tories tbh
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 10:56 (three years ago) link
some of the worst Tories in this country are basically 80% of this cunt's shadow cabinet
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 11:02 (three years ago) link
New: David Evans just hosted a Zoom all for staff alongside Starmer and Rayner. He said:- Labour must get back to winning elections- wants to professionalise HQ- accepts there's a diversity issue and wants to make it a key indicator of his performance
- Labour must get back to winning elections- wants to professionalise HQ- accepts there's a diversity issue and wants to make it a key indicator of his performance
there is an incredibly intelligent idea, try and win an election rather than fucking sabotage and undermine an election campaign and the leader at every opportunity ... fucking tool
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 11:42 (three years ago) link
Don't know who Evans is. Who is he? What does he know? Does he know things? We may never know.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 11:49 (three years ago) link
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/1A05/production/_112516660_davidevans.jpg
he's got a winning mentality and he evolves ..he doesn't revolve... tbh all I can add is he is a melt and looks like a complete twat!
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 11:52 (three years ago) link
I'm sure his hair has sealed the deal with Starmer.
― Is Lou Reed a Good Singer? (Tom D.), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:00 (three years ago) link
"must get back to winning elections" has always meant "...by becoming conservative party lite" and no difference now.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link
Now is not the time to point fingers about the annexation of Naboo. I propose that we work with our learned friends from the Trade Federation on a comprehensive inquiry into these allegations pic.twitter.com/xWvoAvbobh— Professor Piss Shitty (@DrFuck_) May 27, 2020
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:35 (three years ago) link
should i see professor piss shitty's other tweets (as found at the @DrFuck account)
― mark s, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 13:38 (three years ago) link
he's one of my few non-bot followers on twitter so obv he's a top class poster!
― calzino, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
i don't understand Star Wars jokes tbh
― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:11 (three years ago) link
I disenfranchised myself last week. Mainly for pecuniary reasons, but I don't think my vote will count for much anymore. They are going to sew this up tight. Besides which, as I replied to the admin bod who emailed me, Starmer seems to have access to the wallets of some very well-off ppl so I think my pitiful pounds are needed by me more than you, currently. Commit to raise the ""living wage"" though and I might be able to afford to come back.
― glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:15 (three years ago) link
xp how about this
I like to retweet my Ian Nairn joke every now and then for the 7 people who get it. pic.twitter.com/oE1QgoeCOK— Richard Littler (@richard_littler) May 25, 2020
― The Cognitive Peasant (ogmor), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:17 (three years ago) link
lol ok i get that one
― Children of Bo-Dom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 27 May 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
heartbreakingworstpeopleuknow.jpg
Conservatives were more talkative. A source close to Spencer said she had “thrown him under the bus” by initially claiming she would not discuss her husband’s case, only to do the opposite, before his trial. Another source said: “I remember her saying they gave him this judge because she’s a real hardass and she’s going to throw the book at him.”Of her subsequent efforts, the first source said: “I really didn’t think it was the role of the chief whip to sort out some convicted sex offender’s pillow in prison.”
― Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Saturday, 11 May 2024 19:20 (two days ago) link
Nandy always trots out “I’ll not be lectured by…[the left]” whenever someone to her left challenges her version of events. For once in her life I would like someone to say “actually this time you’re gonna have to sit there and take it, because everyone is sick and tired of watching you act like nobody to the left of you has a right to an opinion or deserves a vote. And were you not the person who was responsible for the plan to ‘break Corbyn as a man’?”
― steely flan (suzy), Saturday, 11 May 2024 21:39 (two days ago) link
Uh no facebook I don't know him!
https://i.imgur.com/Ylzipw0.png
― This is Dance Anthems, have some respect (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 11 May 2024 21:58 (two days ago) link