Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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i listened to it.

bannon was praising ocasio-cortez a lot and said the future was "left populism" vs. "right populism" and it wasn't clear yet "who had the better answers" for "the little guy." the hosts lightly pushed back against bannon's support of aoc. then they argued with him about employer-based healthcare. then at the end they told him they loved his style and that the multiple layered shirts was an attractive look.

treeship., Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:11 (four years ago) link

sounds about right

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link

dasha (the one that was a sailor meme before she was a podcast host) at one point lightly questioned trump's racist appeals and bannon said his usual thing, that what matters is that you're a "citizen" blah blah "economic nationalism." it was a very predictable episode.

oh yeah, also, bannon thinks that the virus might have leaked from the virology lab in Wuhan.

treeship., Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link

bannon is surprisingly ingratiating when he talks, constantly praising liberals and leftists and looking for common ground with his interlocutors. I've noticed this before. it's an act i guess?

treeship., Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:16 (four years ago) link

were anna and dasha actually pro-AOC? i thought they despised her

℺ ☽ ⋠ ⏎ (✖), Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

no, they were against aoc. bannon was for aoc.

lol.

treeship., Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link

like, he didn't agree with her, but he like the idea of "millennial candidates" coming up through the "grassroots."

one point that should have been asked, but wasn't, was whether bannon still supported the "deconstruction of the administrative state." it was exactly that philosophy that led to trump firing the pandemic response team in 2018.

treeship., Thursday, 9 April 2020 22:22 (four years ago) link

have they had richard spencer yet

reality disliker (Left), Friday, 10 April 2020 00:10 (four years ago) link

red scare? enh I wouldn't put it past 'em

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Friday, 10 April 2020 00:15 (four years ago) link

new bonus ep w Murder Bryan from Street Fight about the PMRC is the most I’ve smiled all week. lotta nostalgia.

A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Friday, 10 April 2020 01:10 (four years ago) link

have they had richard spencer yet

Pakman had Spencer on a couple of years ago, it was pretty good. I've only ever seen Pakman and Gary Younge interview Spencer

anvil, Friday, 10 April 2020 02:03 (four years ago) link

Has Felix's sister ever been on an episode before? I'm cracking up at how they start sounding like each other as the dialogue goes on

mh, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link

I've not really listened to Chapo or similar that much so I may have this wrong, but how does this Dirtbag Left fit alongside the Populist Berniebro Left of Krystal Ball, Kyle Kulinski et al. There seem some parallels but Krystal, Kyle and others seem to make a point of speaking in very everyday terms, not defining as socialist. Are the chapo people further left, or is it just a case of presentation?

anvil, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:17 (four years ago) link

idk where those people stand but the CTH posse identify as socialists and their live events tend to have DSA recruitment people canvassing the entrance

mh, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link

felix and lucy content refreshingly wholesome

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 02:20 (four years ago) link

much like council of dads

crüt, Wednesday, 15 April 2020 02:34 (four years ago) link

I saw the episode image and assumed that was fake

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 15 April 2020 02:42 (four years ago) link

omg Felix's sister is delightful

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 16 April 2020 11:52 (four years ago) link

The more I learn about the Chapo hosts and the timeline of the podcast, the more it seems to me like Amber and Virgil were brought on to do the work of appealling/signalling to an alt-right-adjacent troll audience so the original hosts could pretend their hands were clean.

— Gwen Snyder is uncivil (@gwensnyderPHL) April 22, 2020

Alt-righter Virgil Texas

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 19:47 (four years ago) link

Amber and Matt had some pretty dogshit takes last episode, tbf

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

Do they not know which one Virgil is?

mh, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:19 (four years ago) link

Felix seems like a bigger troll than Virgil to me

crüt, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link

To me, Virgil is the closest thing they have to a traddish liberal wonk

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:25 (four years ago) link

That would make him the most fash-adjacent, true...

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:28 (four years ago) link

not even in beliefs just sometimes he goes off about the inside baseball stuff like a pretty regular type show

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:37 (four years ago) link

is it true he dated a 16 year old

fuck it (Left), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link

That's Seinfeld I think

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link

afaik there was some comedy event he did 7 years ago where a comedian who is now an alt-right guy did some edgelord bullshit, this is the main evidence that he’s a secret fascist.

JoeStork, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:04 (four years ago) link

oh i was there. bad night

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link

those alt-right edgelord dudes were like.. the headliners. not sure what virgil was doin; he seemed shocked but also like... have some quality control over your own twitter reading

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:07 (four years ago) link

Brad doing a tight 10 minutes at Skankfest

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link

if anyone wants reasons to write off the chapos just direct them to the much more problematic early episodes, that doesn't require knowledge of a 7-y/o standup event

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link

If you dare expose yourself to the vile, uncensored horror of men occasionally talking over their female guests

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 April 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link

Virgil’s been going through a juul pod per hour for the last year, can’t imagine why he’d need a break

mh, Thursday, 23 April 2020 00:17 (four years ago) link

Trending in California
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12.8K Tweets

ffs

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 April 2020 00:28 (four years ago) link

Feels like a lot of people want to trash Red Scare but they're not actually well known enough to get a tweet trending.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 23 April 2020 00:52 (four years ago) link

i think Dasha is more known for being interviewed by InfoWars dressed as a schoolgirl or whatever than the podcast is.

Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 23 April 2020 04:50 (four years ago) link

Don't let brad see this sailor moon erasure

k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 04:53 (four years ago) link

there seems to be a camp of listeners that see CTH and a raft of other podcasts (Street Fight, etc) as kind of a leftist listening enterprise with commentary on political media and grassroots advocacy that works against the stereotype of a bunch of brooklyn-based podcasters in a scene that has a lot of bickering

honestly, I can't keep track of the latter situation at all

mh, Thursday, 23 April 2020 13:54 (four years ago) link

Azealia Banks - not a Red Scare fan

Ok but if you guys are boring and on klonopin like that terrible Red Scare podcast I’m out. Lol. Going to listen now https://t.co/KI1P0CXaYz

— AZEALIA BANKS (@AZEALIA_2020) April 23, 2020

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 23 April 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link

critical support for azealia banks

fuck it (Left), Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

I enjoy the this is sus eps. only good chapo shit imo

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

Emotionally manipulative network dramas are right in Felix’s wheelhouse. I want him to do Parenthood.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 23 April 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link

I'm imagining banks going on trueanon and Grimes going on red scare now and it makes an unbelievable amount of sense

Hackers (1995) (Will M.), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:29 (four years ago) link

When ppl talk about the Chapo-to-fash pipeline
https://media.giphy.com/media/xTcnSOEKegBnYhGahW/source.gif

When ppl talk about the Red Scare-to-fash pipeline
https://media.giphy.com/media/geEvRnbQqLYsb5WOr8/source.gif

The Mandymoorian (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 23 April 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link

I've never knowingly interacted with a fan but it seems like their pipeline is most likely Red Scare-to-vote blue no matter who in two promotions at work.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:53 (four years ago) link

Is there a particular reason why professional media commentators or activist types seem to have the thinnest possible skins? Is this a class background thing? Chris Cuomo posted some shit the other day, didn’t he, that he didn’t want to be a public figure anymore because someone spotted him on the street in Manhattan and was rude to him?

Like that Gwen Snyder character(amongst others) spent an entire day having an episode of scribomania which included doubling down after getting some shit wrong.

Social media and twitter especially has proven the best/worst glimpse into their really weird & petty grievances, feuds, and position-jockeying.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:54 (four years ago) link

Also Felix and his sister could probably have quite a successful re-watch show.

Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:55 (four years ago) link

tbf having people know who you are and want to interact with you about it seems like a nightmare but otoh maybe they should've considered this before taking these highly visible public jobs

Mordy, Thursday, 23 April 2020 23:57 (four years ago) link

Woke Twitter people aren't even making money at it (no matter how many have their Paypal links pinned as a top tweet).

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 24 April 2020 02:00 (four years ago) link


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