Chapo Trap House and the rise of the dirtbag left

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I don’t listen to the podcast, but the subreddit has gone way crazier way faster than I expected. They’re already deep into “ironic” pro-Trump posting

― Dan I., Thursday, April 9, 2020 4:14 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

?? i see one post there from a british person making an obvious joke

they're joking about "a vote for x is a vote for trump", i don't see anyone actually saying they're pro-trump

the subreddit is also hated and disavowed by the actual chapos

and the actual anti-idpol subs hate it for being pro-idpol lol

ffs i don't even listen to this podcast don't make me post here

They’ve never had the Red Scare people on, they have had numerous trans guests, POC guests, labor and community organizers...

It seems like the main requirement for criticism is still to not have actually listened to the podcast.

amber has been on red scare but we've always known she sucks

i've listened to the podcast its shite

i've also seen enough of their online conduct to know what they're about

out of curiosity i found a thread at an actual left anti-idpol sub and there was 1 whole poster saying they'd vote for trump. i figured there'd be more accelerationists at least

I've never been able to get past the rampant disablism of these arseholes meself. And their podcasts are shite!

amber has been on red scare but we've always known she sucks

― brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Thursday, April 9, 2020 5:17 PM (forty-five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

steve bannon went on red scare this week!

lol nevermind this was discussed.

:O

I kind of want to listen to that. Kind of suggests he's not at the height of his influence though.

i listened to it.

bannon was praising ocasio-cortez a lot and said the future was "left populism" vs. "right populism" and it wasn't clear yet "who had the better answers" for "the little guy." the hosts lightly pushed back against bannon's support of aoc. then they argued with him about employer-based healthcare. then at the end they told him they loved his style and that the multiple layered shirts was an attractive look.

sounds about right

dasha (the one that was a sailor meme before she was a podcast host) at one point lightly questioned trump's racist appeals and bannon said his usual thing, that what matters is that you're a "citizen" blah blah "economic nationalism." it was a very predictable episode.

oh yeah, also, bannon thinks that the virus might have leaked from the virology lab in Wuhan.

bannon is surprisingly ingratiating when he talks, constantly praising liberals and leftists and looking for common ground with his interlocutors. I've noticed this before. it's an act i guess?

were anna and dasha actually pro-AOC? i thought they despised her

no, they were against aoc. bannon was for aoc.

lol.

like, he didn't agree with her, but he like the idea of "millennial candidates" coming up through the "grassroots."

one point that should have been asked, but wasn't, was whether bannon still supported the "deconstruction of the administrative state." it was exactly that philosophy that led to trump firing the pandemic response team in 2018.

have they had richard spencer yet

red scare? enh I wouldn't put it past 'em

new bonus ep w Murder Bryan from Street Fight about the PMRC is the most I’ve smiled all week. lotta nostalgia.

have they had richard spencer yet

Pakman had Spencer on a couple of years ago, it was pretty good. I've only ever seen Pakman and Gary Younge interview Spencer

Has Felix's sister ever been on an episode before? I'm cracking up at how they start sounding like each other as the dialogue goes on

I've not really listened to Chapo or similar that much so I may have this wrong, but how does this Dirtbag Left fit alongside the Populist Berniebro Left of Krystal Ball, Kyle Kulinski et al. There seem some parallels but Krystal, Kyle and others seem to make a point of speaking in very everyday terms, not defining as socialist. Are the chapo people further left, or is it just a case of presentation?

idk where those people stand but the CTH posse identify as socialists and their live events tend to have DSA recruitment people canvassing the entrance

felix and lucy content refreshingly wholesome

much like council of dads

I saw the episode image and assumed that was fake

omg Felix's sister is delightful

The more I learn about the Chapo hosts and the timeline of the podcast, the more it seems to me like Amber and Virgil were brought on to do the work of appealling/signalling to an alt-right-adjacent troll audience so the original hosts could pretend their hands were clean.

— Gwen Snyder is uncivil (@gwensnyderPHL) April 22, 2020

Alt-righter Virgil Texas

Amber and Matt had some pretty dogshit takes last episode, tbf

Do they not know which one Virgil is?

Felix seems like a bigger troll than Virgil to me

To me, Virgil is the closest thing they have to a traddish liberal wonk

That would make him the most fash-adjacent, true...

not even in beliefs just sometimes he goes off about the inside baseball stuff like a pretty regular type show

is it true he dated a 16 year old

That's Seinfeld I think

afaik there was some comedy event he did 7 years ago where a comedian who is now an alt-right guy did some edgelord bullshit, this is the main evidence that he’s a secret fascist.

oh i was there. bad night

those alt-right edgelord dudes were like.. the headliners. not sure what virgil was doin; he seemed shocked but also like... have some quality control over your own twitter reading

Brad doing a tight 10 minutes at Skankfest

if anyone wants reasons to write off the chapos just direct them to the much more problematic early episodes, that doesn't require knowledge of a 7-y/o standup event

If you dare expose yourself to the vile, uncensored horror of men occasionally talking over their female guests

Virgil’s been going through a juul pod per hour for the last year, can’t imagine why he’d need a break

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ffs

Feels like a lot of people want to trash Red Scare but they're not actually well known enough to get a tweet trending.

i think Dasha is more known for being interviewed by InfoWars dressed as a schoolgirl or whatever than the podcast is.

Don't let brad see this sailor moon erasure

there seems to be a camp of listeners that see CTH and a raft of other podcasts (Street Fight, etc) as kind of a leftist listening enterprise with commentary on political media and grassroots advocacy that works against the stereotype of a bunch of brooklyn-based podcasters in a scene that has a lot of bickering

honestly, I can't keep track of the latter situation at all