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And the aforementioned Album Album. others by or involving DeJ., and Art Ensemble/Lester Bowie.

dow, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

Sam RIVERS I meant

dow, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:49 (four years ago) link

And this one

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CONTRASTS
SAM RIVERS

Release date: 30.06.1980
ECM 1162
Format : CDLP
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Dave Holland always described Sam Rivers’ groups as his finishing school. It was Sam who instructed him to play “all the music” – inside, outside, atonal, swing, blues, and all the hues of the jazz and chamber music traditions. By the time of Contrasts,Rivers and Holland had been working together consistently for seven years (with Dave’s Conference of the Birds at the start of the story), a powerhouse combination of multi-reeds and double bass. Of the drummers who passed through the line-up, Thurman Barker was one of the most creative, rippling across drum kit and marimba. Young trombone innovator George Lewis had already worked with Holland and Barker in Anthony Braxton groups. For Contrasts everyone was fired up and ready to play.

FEATURED ARTISTS
Sam Rivers Soprano Saxophone, Tenor Saxophone, Flute
George Lewis Trombone
Dave Holland Double Bass
Thurman Barker Drums, Marimba
TRACKLIST
1CIRCLES
(Sam Rivers)
04:19
2ZIP
(Sam Rivers)
04:44
3SOLACE
(Sam Rivers)
06:57
4VERVE
(Sam Rivers)
5DAZZLE
(Sam Rivers)
09:16
6IMAGES
(Sam Rivers)
03:54
7LINES
(Sam Rivers)

dow, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

That Circle live is the one 70s ECM vinyl I own, it's real good.

Just bought Yellow Fields and Colours of Chloë on Ebay for $25, hopefully they are in serviceable condition.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:55 (four years ago) link

important: https://www.instagram.com/ecm_memes/

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:02 (four years ago) link

This is a good one ive been listening to while playing Witcher 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW1npkQEtDo

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link

Those ECM memes are top notch.

And yeah, Dawn Dance is awesome.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link


important: https://www.instagram.com/ecm_memes/

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, April 8, 2020 11:02 AM

i've never previously followed an account before actually looking at any of the content, but there's a first time for everything.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link

OMG I didn't know I needed ECM memes so bad

in twelve parts (lamonti), Thursday, 9 April 2020 07:26 (four years ago) link

I'm listening to Dawn Dance and this is right on the line of what I can cope with vis-a-vis ECM. I took my boy for some counselling sessions before all this madness kicked off and this is giving me flashbacks to the awful, awful music they piped into the waiting room.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 9 April 2020 09:05 (four years ago) link

it's just some incredible guitar playing and percussion don't be scared

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:41 (four years ago) link

Brad knows what's up.

The earlier Cloud Dance is even better imo – basically Gateway (John Abercrombie/Dave Holland/Jack DeJohnette) + Collin Walcott. Just stellar stuff.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:45 (four years ago) link

I'm totally that guy in the meme checking out Bremen/Lausanne's arse.

Maresn3st, Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link

Same, except the aptly named Dark Intervals and the self-consciously classical Paris Concert would be my top solo Jarrett picks.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link

Terje can have a little flugelhorn, as a treat. Next level lolz.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link

As if the quality of the playing was ever going to be the issue.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link

One of my great "digger" joys was a stop in Konstanz, Germany some years ago. I hit up the local (old, pretty well stocked) record store and came away with pretty much pristine first pressings of all of Eberhard Weber's mid '70s to early '80s ECM run on vinyl for ... €7 a pop?

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

Sold off most of my vinyl collection last year but I kept those.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

The earlier Cloud Dance is even better imo – basically Gateway (John Abercrombie/Dave Holland/Jack DeJohnette) + Collin Walcott. Just stellar stuff.

― Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Thursday, April 9, 2020 6:45 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is absolutely killer thank you pom

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 April 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

My pleasure! I wish Collin Walcott was still around and making music.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:06 (four years ago) link

One of my great "digger" joys was a stop in Konstanz, Germany some years ago. I hit up the local (old, pretty well stocked) record store and came away with pretty much pristine first pressings of all of Eberhard Weber's mid '70s to early '80s ECM run on vinyl for ... €7 a pop?― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, April 9, 2020 8:48 AM (seven hours ago)

big time mood. you did p well i'd reckon.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Thursday, 9 April 2020 23:45 (four years ago) link

Dawn dance reminds me of the diablo soundtrack but better

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Friday, 10 April 2020 10:22 (four years ago) link

The Chick Corea/Gary Burton - Crystal Silence album is amazing. "Crystal" nails the sound. Vibes+piano and it sounds like a glass of ice water. Just a fantastic record, and I've been playing it a lot lately.

softspool, Saturday, 11 April 2020 04:44 (four years ago) link

Gonna check it out now. Love all the suggestions coming up on here. There's a ton of great stuff I've missed out on.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 11 April 2020 04:47 (four years ago) link

John surman - upon reflection is a dope album

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 13 April 2020 11:03 (four years ago) link

dimly recall walcott's obit from one of the very very early issues of wire (single figures, might actually be the first one): i had no idea who he was and only a very vague grasp what ECM was at the time but somehow filed it away anyway as an important moment

mark s, Monday, 13 April 2020 11:11 (four years ago) link

Just stuck on Keith Jarrett’s ‘My Song’...just lovely...RIP Jon Christensen

X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Monday, 13 April 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link

man, Bennie Maupin "the jewel in the lotus" slays. just one of the best spiritual, definitely out-there but not free jazzy albums I've heard in years

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 April 2020 00:46 (four years ago) link

It's absolutely stellar, yeah. Ricardo Villalobos and Max Loderbauer's repurposed version of 'Ensenada' on Re: ECM is also worth your time, if you haven't heard it.

coviderunt omnes (pomenitul), Friday, 17 April 2020 00:59 (four years ago) link

Weirdly haven't heard it considering how fanboyish ive previously been wrt sweet ricardo, will give it a go

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 17 April 2020 01:35 (four years ago) link

This seems like a good time to hunt down vinyl copies of their 70s/80s albums. They haven't quite gotten to the point where they are considered collectible, so there are lots of good deals to be had. Currently stalking a copy of Burton/Weber - Ring on Ebay, and will probably try to snap up the Return To Forever debut too.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Sunday, 19 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

i love 'reshadub' off the villalobos ecm

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Sunday, 19 April 2020 23:06 (four years ago) link

It's not directly ECM-related, but last year's The Clouds Know as Vilod (Villalobos/Loderbauer) was excellent. And speaking of 'Reshadub', Paul Giger deserves more plaudits too, especially for Chartres.

pomenitul, Sunday, 19 April 2020 23:17 (four years ago) link

Burton's 'Ring' is fantastic. I picked it up for about $5 a couple of months ago and it's been near the turntable ever since. There are lots of good ECM bargains out there. Speaking of which I pulled 'My Song' from my Discogs inventory and gave it a spin this morning. What a surprisingly good album- usually Garbarek gets too corny for me but he was terrific on this.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 20 April 2020 06:14 (four years ago) link

john surman "within the halls of neptune" is the best thing i've ever heard

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 20 April 2020 20:06 (four years ago) link

what a title! I’ll need to check it out.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 20 April 2020 21:45 (four years ago) link

the rest of the record the amazing adventures of simon and simon is also really great

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 20 April 2020 21:47 (four years ago) link

getting really into dino saluzzi's "kultrum" LP

v cool stuff

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Monday, 20 April 2020 22:36 (four years ago) link

Oho, just unearthed a 1994 Downbeat, incl. appealing review of Gary Peacock & Ralph Towner's Oracle--ECM 78118-21490-2 (50:12) Personnel: Peacock, double bass, Towner, classical and 12-string guitars
...Versatility is essential if one works with both Bill Evans and Albert Ayler, as Peacock did in the mid-60s...
Oracle reinforces the perception that Peacock is a guitarist at heart, who happens to play bass violin. He is recorded beautifully and prominently. "Inside Inside" tricks your ear...as Peacock and Towner reverse roles and registers. The filigrees and pensive moods of "Flutter Step" and "Empty Carousel" fit Tower's strengths and mannerisms so closely, it's a surprise to discover that Peacock wrote those tunes. Towner('s)...interplay with Peacock recalls collaborations with John Abercrombie and Glen Moore. It's hard to recall a bassist other than Moore who's shown such empathy for the guitarist. Working with Peacock reinvigorates Towner, and a reunion with Towner on piano would be intriguing.

Reviewer Jon Anderson also says that (despite the light touch, intricacy and sensitivity that pervades the session), it "isn't a stretch for either of them," then gives it 4 1/2 stars---y'all heard it??

dow, Monday, 20 April 2020 23:09 (four years ago) link

I am still working my way through the Touchstone series. The one I keep coming back to is "The Pilgrim and The Stars" from Enrico Rava. Clearly influenced by Miles Davis around Bitches Brew but Rava plays very melodic lines on top of the music which gives it a very European touch. My introduction to Jon Christensen too.

All the Kenny Wheeler albums on ECM are worth investigating too. The last one I purchases was "Music for Small and Large Ensembles" and I wish I got earlier as it's a gorgeous album, starting in a somewhat Metheny/Mays-vein (without the Brasilian influences) but then moving to the usual very strong writing (and orchestratino) that Wheeler was known for. The interplay between Mike Brecker and Wheeler on "Double, Double You" is also amazing. And I haven't even heard his output on CamJazz..

EvR, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 08:20 (four years ago) link

the mark isham and rainer brüninghaus records referenced upthread are incredible

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link


All the Kenny Wheeler albums on ECM are worth investigating too.

I only have ever heard Gnu High, but it's got the Peacock / Jarrett / Dejohnette trio backing him and it's really good.

Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link

Angel Song - Kenny Wheeler's album with Lee Konitz, Bill Frissell and Dave Holland is gorgeous.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link

Reminds me: just came across an old Downbeat Blindfold Test where Dave Liebman raves about Wheeler's playing on the title track of Jane Ira Bloom's Art and Aviation (Arabesque, 1992), and gives the whole thing 4 1/2 stars.

dow, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link

deer wan by wheeler is great

brimstead, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:47 (four years ago) link

(w/holland, DeJohnette, garbarek, Abercrombie)

brimstead, Wednesday, 22 April 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

Edward Vesala's Nan Madol really hit the spot this morning.

Judi Dench's Human Hand (methanietanner), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link

I am still working my way through the Touchstone series. The one I keep coming back to is "The Pilgrim and The Stars" from Enrico Rava. Clearly influenced by Miles Davis around Bitches Brew but Rava plays very melodic lines on top of the music which gives it a very European touch. My introduction to Jon Christensen too.

just played this this morning, very good.

listened to the koln concerts today and now listening to yellow fields by eberhard weber, probably my favorite of the 3 albums mentioned.

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Wednesday, 22 April 2020 23:17 (four years ago) link

Angel Song - Kenny Wheeler's album with Lee Konitz, Bill Frissell and Dave Holland is gorgeous.

Seconded, and it also has great comping by Bill Frisell. I wish "It should've happened a long time ago" on which he also plays was available as a single disc. It's only available as part of a 6cd box of all Paul Motian's work for ECM.

EvR, Thursday, 23 April 2020 07:56 (four years ago) link


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