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i like to act genuinely baffled when people tell me to shut the fuck up. like "Huh? But why? The shit i post here helps people, but ok,"

— wint (@dril) February 14, 2019

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

shame everyone had to jump to conclusions

ogmor, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link

welp, guess I fucked that one up. sorry folks

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link

RIP Οὖτις

nashwan, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

it's sad, he was a true patriot

Pierre Delecto, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:59 (four years ago) link

belated fp, wth shakey I know I'm mad at you but c'mon

silby, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link

let alone going there, running it as a poll?!

ban laggy jazzer (imago), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

are you against choices?

forensic plumber (harbl), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link

ooohhhhh

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:09 (four years ago) link

the topic seems to often be discussed in absolutes, and I find that confusing/interesting/worth investigating. obviously I don't know how to talk about this stuff.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link

Someone else should try and frame the question.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link

Though preferably not poll it.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link

No

silby, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

Thoughtlording on this topic in a forum where 3/4 of the women who made it more vital just a few years ago already have stopped posting is not something we need

silby, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

Thank you, silby!

extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

what is thoughtlording

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

(google not turning up anything but... ilx posts)

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

it's not that it's a bad conversation to have even as provocatively stated as it is it's that ilx (and any "public forum") is not the right place to have it

Mordy, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link

you know that dumb anecdote about the fish, where the punchline is "what is water?"

silby, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

It’s not actually necessary to have public opinions about everything.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

I feel like the question has an answer I'm supposed to know, but I'm not allowed to ask it, and discussing it is verboten

I do not know the fish joke, no

xps

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

i agree - ppl should spend more time choosing their shots when they express a public opinion. good questions to ask before doing so "what do i aim to accomplish from this" "will this benefit people reading it"

Mordy, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link

shakey the answer is that it is too case dependent to give a binary answer but getting into the weeds is where all the bitterness and mess is and i don't feel confident in ilx's ability to discuss it really. nb i wouldn't have blocked the thread bc "free speech ethics" but i 100% understand the reason for doing so

Mordy, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

there seems to be some disagreement about it being case dependent afaict. as well as what the criteria are for evaluating cases are or should be.

but yeah what is this accomplishing, I'm not learning anything and ppl are jumping all over me so .... anyway.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:47 (four years ago) link

I mean, if it's case dependent, then the binary answer is clearly 'no' :)

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

you’re so astoundingly fucking dumb, it just fills me with rage

budo jeru, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link

I really don’t care what either of you have to say at this point

silby, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

can you answer my questions tho

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

I'm just trying to understand where you're coming from

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:48 (four years ago) link

btw if there’s a conversation going on in here (?) i’m not trying to be part of it and my re-directed anger post has nothing to do with ... whatever is going on over here

budo jeru, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:55 (four years ago) link

I don't get what you mean, but I assume you're saying you were mad at me because of what I wrote about Godard

Frederik B, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:57 (four years ago) link

It’s not actually necessary to have public opinions about everything.

brimstead, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link

otmfm

cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link

No, he does not.

Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link

Lucy: holds football

cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link

whatever is going on over here

"...go away, dewey! you don't want no part of this shit!"

inveterate practitioner of antisocial distancing (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:05 (four years ago) link

Leave Hermione out of it

cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

it's not that it's a bad conversation to have even as provocatively stated as it is it's that ilx (and any "public forum") is not the right place to have it

― Mordy, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 bookmarkflaglink

Man saying this in one post and then following by giving your base reductive answer to that fucking stupid thread in one line is pure chef's kiss.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link

base reductive answer of it's murky?

Mordy, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link

actually posting the post you are responding to itt is

something

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link

oh is it lol

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link

Meh, you could just as easily (and probably more accurately) say elderly voters or voters who identify as moderate or conservative made him the candidate.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link

the age divide was more significant than anything else here.

treeship., Thursday, 9 April 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link

iirc african american voters under 30 did *not* prefer Biden so maybe we can drop this trope?

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link

in reference to the actual discussion here...

y'all guys got shit you need to figure out, if part of that process is asking "yeah but how much do we need to listen to and respect women _really_?" i understand that, no for real i do, if that's what you need to do to get past this fucking Italian Spiderman approach to women, do it. i will also respect you less and will feel less comfortable communicating in an environment where y'all are still discussing the "woman question" from the 1890s.

i'm sorry for the Italian Spiderman reference, i know that one is kind of obscure

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 9 April 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link

If we'd a "worst zings/shooting yourself in the foot" thread this one would be a HoF'er

it's amazing how bad your take on this entire thing has been from the very beginning, stfu

sleeve, Friday, 10 April 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link

53. 'Ultracrepidarian': one who is presumptuous and offers advice or opinions beyond one’s sphere of knowledgehttps://t.co/k1Ae6EuPGF

— Merriam-Webster (@MerriamWebster) April 10, 2020

mookieproof, Friday, 10 April 2020 15:05 (four years ago) link

lads im delighted to see that in these difficult times for all ye are to a man/woman as eager as ever to jump down the throat of anyone ye can find for any reason ye can find.

fuckin shame on the lot of ye.

ye each expect a lot better treatment than ye dole out, imo.

kisses and love.

ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Friday, 10 April 2020 15:08 (four years ago) link


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