love* in the time of plague (and by love* i mean brexit* and other dreary matters of uk politics)

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Didn't see this but I heard it from my window. The Rye was less crowded than the pix of Brockwell Park upthread. This seems ridiculous to me.

A police van is going around peckham rye blaring “no sunbathing... exercise only” pic.twitter.com/cQw92CtNxv

— Griff Ferris (@g__ferris) April 4, 2020

Tim, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:03 (four years ago) link

lol just hop the fence at the sign for brockwell park gardens or go in through cressingham. I don't know why this is hard.

plax (ico), Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:03 (four years ago) link

I was in Brockwell Park this late morning sitting on the grass for a while and thinking how relatively quiet it was at that point. Most people out were either jogging or walking dogs. I'm sure it was a lot busier by the afternoon though.

nashwan, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link

Rest assured I don't have a garden.

nashwan, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link

i was walking in brockwell park earlier and that pic is representative. people were out and sitting down but v far apart and i reckon no more than 70-100 in the entire large park.

i was hoping to run round there tomorrow morning first thing when it was quiet. :(

Fizzles, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:21 (four years ago) link

and btw to the tweet stet posted YES u prick cycle on the v quiet roads not in the park plz? cyclists really congested the park paths. (i say this as a committed cyclist)

Fizzles, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:23 (four years ago) link

The horror!

Brockwell park ( approx 125 acres) taken from my window today 16.04 hrs , people with no back garden need green spaces pic.twitter.com/3SJ1GcpsJS

— Robert Harrison (@ieattothebeat) April 4, 2020

tbr I accept I should have just kept walking and not sat down. If I were them I'd open it for a few hours in the morning at least.

nashwan, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:40 (four years ago) link

I was already jealous of Facebook friends with gardens, thought about taking a book out today and finding a quiet spot but figured "fuck it, rozzers"

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:42 (four years ago) link

really. i don’t think it’s a problem with people sitting down. what is exercise for one person ie jogging maybe a breath of fresh air and a sit down for another. like your picture shows, people were generally quite dispersed. and where they weren’t it was people on the paths not those sitting in the park.

Fizzles, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

xpost.

Fizzles, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

I feel a cunt for FFS-ing that lambeth council tweet now i've seen the pics!

I'm very lucky in that I've spent the last 5 years needing to find out all the little shady short cuts, obscure ginnels etc that I can get to very quiet green open spaces without even needing to pass many people or getting seen by cops on the road. I remember going on a "greenbelt chain" walk when i lived in London and never feeling more homesick for genuine greenbelt!

calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

Also this entire country is vitamin D deficient and taking the sun is one of the best ways of getting a bit more of it in you. Bonus: lifts depression, helps with cold and virus resistance. If sunbathing in public were explicitly banned, the BMA might have something to say about that.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link

The largest group in those Brockwell Park pictures is maybe three people and for all we know they all live in the same house. Absolutely nothing like it would normally be on a day like today.

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link

Spent all day trying to work out the one place absolutely nobody else would want to go to. Then, inspiration... pic.twitter.com/BFBH955Gun

— Dave Rowlinson (@Dave_Rowlinson) April 4, 2020

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:18 (four years ago) link

First good news for some time. Congratulations @keirstarmer who can bring back intelligence, principle, judgment - all essential for #Labour to be of service to the country. The Corbyn years brought terrible shame and monstrous defeat. The clearer the new start the better.

— David Miliband (@DMiliband) April 4, 2020

koogs, Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:35 (four years ago) link

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck OFF

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link

this is a terrible look, as if we hadn't seen enough of the melts's true evil already

Tony Fucking Robinson tho

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:38 (four years ago) link

If nothing else DMil has given the lie there to any claim he might wanna make about being concerned for the party

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 April 2020 20:40 (four years ago) link

The largest group in those Brockwell Park pictures is maybe three people and for all we know they all live in the same house. Absolutely nothing like it would normally be on a day like today.


absolutely the main vibe i got. and if nashwan wants to sit in the park for a bit ten metres away from anyone else, who cares? the main congestion was on the paths not on the grass and it was easy for me to stay distances from people even during the middle of the day.

now people will be forced to take their exercise on the street pavements, meaning far less possibility of keeping distance.

Fizzles, Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link

Baldrick dismissing the Corbyn era as a "moral disgrace" is just so fucking pathetic and hateful. Let's do a Top Trumps of the moral disgraces of the "unelectable" Miliband Labour vs Corbyn Labour. The former was a fucking moral disgrace alright, even he Ed himself admitted later they went way too far to the right.

calzino, Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link

The rhetoric is insane

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:39 (four years ago) link

still, got the queen carking it to look forward to at least

suggesteban buttez (||||||||), Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link

my telly isn't plumbed in rn (don't ask) so I'm more relaxed/excited than most, at that prospect

suggesteban buttez (||||||||), Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link

I also don't see wtf Starmer provides if we're looking for charisma and a snappy, on-the-ball incisive persona

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:47 (four years ago) link

As in, I can see that Corbyn didn't score a perfect ten for that but ... what's the new guy going to offer?

Never changed username before (cardamon), Saturday, 4 April 2020 21:49 (four years ago) link

exude competence and authority

he may've picked the wrong decade for that

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link

Talking of exuding competence and authority, the leader Labour could have had has surfaced in Renfrewshire of all places:

https://www.renfrewshire24.co.uk/2020/04/04/video-mr-blobby-spotted-out-for-exercise-in-kilbarchan/

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:15 (four years ago) link

Any amount of money says that his mate Noel is refusing to social distance while also blaming 5G for coronavirus.

Matt DC, Saturday, 4 April 2020 22:21 (four years ago) link

Funnily enough I was wondering the other day why that clown hadn't been sharing his opinions about the rona with the world

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 4 April 2020 23:17 (four years ago) link

It's amazing today how little attention has been paid to Keir Starmer. Nobody I know posted anything about it on any social media, and it's the sixth item on the bbc news website. There isn't any big new coronavirus news today even, it's just nobody cares.

Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 4 April 2020 23:29 (four years ago) link

Re: Brockwell and Peckham. The campaign to blame people for their deaths is ramping up. Splitting people against the real culprits and it just might work.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 5 April 2020 08:32 (four years ago) link

> it's the sixth item on the bbc news website.

When I looked earlier the article at number 4 in the list was 'how to build an igloo'

koogs, Sunday, 5 April 2020 08:39 (four years ago) link

I am 100% going to go and sit in the sun for as long as I can

Microbes oft teem (wins), Sunday, 5 April 2020 09:00 (four years ago) link

matt hancock can fuck right off if he thinks he can make it illegal to stop me taking a walk when i have yet to come 5 metres within anyone else whilst doing so this past fortnight

oscar bravo, Sunday, 5 April 2020 10:23 (four years ago) link

Well done Keir, it's taken less than 24 hours to prove you are utterly fucking pathetic. https://t.co/pqYQw3SQRA

— Joe Kennedy (@joekennedy81) April 5, 2020

great we've got two tory parties now, Starmer is literally a fucking tory.

calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 10:34 (four years ago) link

only way the pigs will stop me going out is by either putting me in a cell or breaking my legs!

calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 10:36 (four years ago) link

fucking hell a pure fucking cop wanker as LOTO, who could have seen this coming? :p

calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 10:37 (four years ago) link

There was an otherwise predictable puff piece in the Guardian yesterday that had this one line in it about him picking up two aides and going straight to the office like that was a perfectly normal and acceptable thing to be doing right now.

Matt DC, Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:00 (four years ago) link

parks and open spaces should be considered key elements of a successful lockdown in densely populated urban areas, as long as social distancing is practised.

calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:08 (four years ago) link

you'd need police to act with judgement and discretion so there's your problem

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:21 (four years ago) link

that sky video of a police bothering an old man sitting on a bench who said he was resting because of his sciatica and she said “i’d be able to see if you were in pain” and sky sticking their cameras in the face of a woman out for a walk with loads of space around her saying “HAVE YOU HEARD OF SOCIAL DISTANCING?” and she’s like yes i am out for my walk. ffs.

like i can see messaging like this can be difficult and a *perception* of people not bothering to obey *rules* can create an actuality of “why should i bother” but clearly very nearly everybody *is* obeying the rules.

lambeth saying “we’ve had to close brockwell park because of a minority of people”. yes that’s the point. it’s a minority of people. that’s good. you only change it if it’s the majority of people.

Fizzles, Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:23 (four years ago) link

There are 48,000 acres of golf courses within London and the Metropolitan Green Belt (shown in red on map below)

Why not open them up to public for exercise, as @RosamundUrwin suggests? https://t.co/V2ioJj85yv

Easier to maintain social distancing if existing parks less crowded. pic.twitter.com/cOb1baLAXQ

— Guy Shrubsole (@guyshrubsole) April 5, 2020

ymo sumac (NickB), Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:24 (four years ago) link

We had two community warden vans and a police car up the wee country lane behind my house yesterday. Apparently someone spotted two lads with a football and a bag of beer walking past and called in the swat team.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:27 (four years ago) link

when I was out earlier on a dirt road (where the only traffic is usually cows being herded by farmer's 10 year old kid in tractor) and the copper chopper was menacingly hovering about, probably passing on recon to the heavy "frying squad" boys who'll be smashing some BBQs later.

calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link

BRITAIN

Kier today, Dom tomorrow (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:36 (four years ago) link

I’m basically fine with public spaces being shut if there is a strong justification for doing so - Italy, Spain and China have all done it, but the U.K. position of avoiding an unpopular decision, prevaricating for a few weeks and then blaming the public for forcing them to make it is vmic.

ShariVari, Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:39 (four years ago) link

I'd be a hypocrite to support anything like this because I pass through my own park a couple of times a day, but even at the height of summer you won't see more than 20 people in there at the same time. My fave part of the lockdown is no more fucking idiots rarsing quad/motorbikes about there in a reckless and quite uncaring about dogs and people fashion and cutting up all the grass. Earlier I saw this young lad flying down a main road on his mountain bike, doing it in showoff nonchalant none-handed style, no crash helmet on but he was wearing a face mask.

calzino, Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:50 (four years ago) link

In a week where we've failed on tests and doubled daily fatalities and failed to produce or procure PPE and ventilators it's notable that the media focus is strongly on the public going for walks.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:51 (four years ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/7XF9sQ0/FA6-F214-C-0034-4-D7-C-9-F42-BCEAE7-C1-A7-A8.jpg

It is a blame-the-public play like others have said. But there might be something in it all the same.

stet, Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:56 (four years ago) link

that and footballers pay. maybe one day we'll be talking about the likes of amazon paying their taxes, but don't hold your breath xp

ymo sumac (NickB), Sunday, 5 April 2020 11:57 (four years ago) link


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