otm. The rest of that comp is dope too iirc
― rob, Friday, 3 April 2020 21:28 (four years ago) link
dang that's a good songthank you for posting! i am a dub/reggae idiot
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Friday, 3 April 2020 21:38 (four years ago) link
it's a great comp, stuff was all new to me, had been previously unaware of the Jamaican expat reggae scene in Vancouver (iirc?)
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 21:41 (four years ago) link
That sounds great. All I know about Summer records is the Noel Ellis LP, which is really good. Alton's lad - I thought that was Toronto-based but I could well be wrong.
― Tim, Friday, 3 April 2020 22:52 (four years ago) link
Yeah its Toronto, my bad
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 April 2020 23:08 (four years ago) link
This isn’t as good plus a lot of it’s more (eccentric) soul than reggae but if you’re curious about the TO history: https://lightintheattic.net/releases/45-jamaica-to-toronto-soul-funk-reggae-1967-1974
― rob, Saturday, 4 April 2020 04:04 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlL0q6Uv8Ls
New Zion Trio (Jamie Saft, Hamid Drake, Brad Jones), ДОМ, 05.02.20
― herds of unmasked cletuses (WmC), Sunday, 19 April 2020 13:20 (four years ago) link
saft's beard is positively brahmsian
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 19 April 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link
Here's an unremarkable slice of lovers that turned out to be precisely what I wanted to listen to this morning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtOb1OuDt1w
I was looking through some records earlier and pulled this out; my copy has even less information on it than the copy photographed for Youtube! It just has "James" hand-written on the label. Thought I'd look up the catalogue number on discogs and here it is. Derrick Lara's one of those names that I feel I've always known was good but I've never really dug into. I wish I'd been more into lovers in the 80s when this stuff was really, really cheap.
― Tim, Monday, 20 April 2020 11:32 (four years ago) link
"Even if a fish'd keep his mouth shut, he wouldn't get caught..."
I love this Johnny Osbourne tune, "Fish Mouth" (Techniques production) (NB the "Come Back Darling" LP is one of those that's more of a Techniques comp than an Osbourne LP but it is brilliant all the way through and if you can lay hands on the 2-CD trojan version from a while back it's 5o tracks of this stuff and fantastic):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhKJ5tintQs
Today I learned of this I-Roy version on it, what a treat:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ast5PlbNSg
When he starts the second verse with his regular "keep on coming through the door" business but he's just warming up and he starts absolutely blazing, I love I-Roy so much.
― Tim, Friday, 12 June 2020 13:53 (three years ago) link
Just came across that Ernest Ranglin NPR Music Tiny Desk Concert curmudgeon posted upthread. Fun stuff.
― Two Little Hit Parades (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 29 August 2020 14:55 (three years ago) link
Every time I listen to some Delroy Wilson I wonder why I bother listening to anything else
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 17:54 (three years ago) link
Love that Summer Records comp mentioned above
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 30 December 2020 17:57 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Nh5CapYICg
― xzanfar, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 18:25 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5OqFSlMTKc
― xzanfar, Wednesday, 30 December 2020 18:26 (three years ago) link
I've given up on ever getting a copy of Jesus Dread but this will help: Pressure Sounds have re-pressed Yabby You's Conquering Lion.https://pressuresounds.bandcamp.com/album/conquering-lion-expanded
― Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Thursday, 25 February 2021 20:12 (three years ago) link
Don’t give up! I found the LP box set in my local shop for $65. The lid had some issues but the vinyl was in great shape.
― brotherlovesdub, Friday, 26 February 2021 01:45 (three years ago) link
I've been immersed in these Cry Tuff Dub Encounter LPs by Prince Far I, they sound so finely balanced and precise. Exemplary. Also some of Adrian Sherwood's earliest big outings?
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link
I think the 1st one was Sherwood and the 2nd Prince Jammy. And then 3 is Sherwood again, i think. Not 100% sure on that one. Such a great series.
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 12:09 (two years ago) link
So solid. According to discogs Sherwood mixed all four.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 12:34 (two years ago) link
odd. i have vol 2 on Virgin's Front Line label and it says mixed by Prince Jammy.
but, i see discogs says All versions mixed and overseen by Adrian Sherwood (Uncredited)
― stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 12:46 (two years ago) link
Good stuff for dubheads posted this past week: https://dubreggae.tumblr.com/post/673948657498849280/one-of-historys-best-music-lists-better-than
One of history’s best music lists – better than Pitchfork’s, Rolling Stone’s, or Elvis Costello’s – was made by a teenager named Snoopy in the summer of 1977. In the London music newspaper Black Echoes, he published his 125 favorite albums from the golden age of dub reggae. Forty-four years later, thanks to a lucky break, I found him.
An interview with Snoopy (Paul Nagle) follows. Here's the list as it was published.
https://imgur.com/a/MdNsaAK
And here's a 77-hour Spotify playlist from the list, compiled by Max Abelson, the writer of the tumblr post.https://open.spotify.com/playlist/01EoObotBce4Bww4oWwFB2?si=96945d98a11e4f88
― Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Monday, 24 January 2022 23:06 (two years ago) link
read this yesterday - had never heard of him or the list. so great!
― stirmonster, Monday, 24 January 2022 23:18 (two years ago) link
ska is good too!
― xzanfar, Monday, 24 January 2022 23:29 (two years ago) link
re who mixed the prince far i LPs and discogs saying it was e.g. all sherwood, the snoopy interview points out (tho as a general comment rather than specifically abt these LPS) that discogs often seems to resort to guesswork when it comes to dub…
― mark s, Monday, 24 January 2022 23:52 (two years ago) link
Interesting read, thanks for sharing!
― paolo, Tuesday, 25 January 2022 08:44 (two years ago) link
Spanish label/collective Lone Ark is a recent discovery for me and possibly deserves its own thread, such is their prolific output. Their stuff - what I've heard of it - is gorgeously produced and sounds good even on my tinny computer speakers, e.g. Audio Merge In Dub by Roberto Sanchez.
― giraffe, Friday, 11 February 2022 16:12 (two years ago) link
I'd like some recommendations please!
Firstly, Peace and Love by Dadawah has been on heavy rotation at chez paolo lately. Are there any other albums that sound like this?
Secondly, I generally prefer dub compilations or mixes to albums. What are people's favourite dub comps?
― paolo, Saturday, 16 April 2022 17:37 (two years ago) link
I mean I do like some dub albums. It's just not really an albums genre for me
― paolo, Saturday, 16 April 2022 17:38 (two years ago) link
savage pencil vs dub is a cracking set :
https://www.discogs.com/release/4280420-Savage-Pencil-Lion-Vs-Dragon-In-Dub
― mark e, Saturday, 16 April 2022 18:39 (two years ago) link
i enjoy listening to this mix, which to my limited knowledge is maybe basic and obvious, but here we are in the idiot's guide thread so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpyIxuAjZdg
i also got into this cumbia dub mix last year, figure thread readers might enjoy it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=01tTJwVcJNY
― budo jeru, Saturday, 16 April 2022 18:43 (two years ago) link
if you love Dadawah, i think there is a high probability you'll like Count Ossie & The Mystic Revelation Of Rastafari's – Grounation and Ras Michael & The Sons Of Negus' – Rastafari
Also the Soul Jazz comp. Rastafari (The Dreads Enter Babylon 1955-83)
― stirmonster, Saturday, 16 April 2022 19:51 (two years ago) link
correction - Ras Michael & The Sons Of Negus – Nyahbinghi is probably the one you want to check. Promised Land Sounds - Rockin' Live Ruff N Tuff too!
― stirmonster, Saturday, 16 April 2022 23:36 (two years ago) link
Thanks for the tips! That Savage Pencil mix looks a good one, and I've already heard that dub mix linked above but it's a top choice. There's a load of good ones on YouTube. Was listening to this one yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC4qz-lxPbw
Kunte Kinte - The Revolutionaries ( Channel One ) Solomonic Dub - Bunny Wailer 09:38 Deliver me - Yabby You and the Prophets12:39 Ital Sip - Augustus Pablo 16:15 Power Pack - Joe Gibbs and the Professionals 19:43 Dub Organizer - Upsetters - Lee Perry 23:40 Black Roses Version - Sly and Robbie ( Jah Life ) 27:32 Concentration Dub - the Crystalites ( Crystal ) 30:07 Lift up your dress Fat Dub - Techniques all stars34:02 Bubble Up Dub - Wayne Jarrett - Wackies Allstars ( Wackies ) 37:42 A.N.C. - The Revolutionaries ( Channel One ) 40:50 - Kingdom Rise Version - Wailing Souls - Roots Radics ( Volcano )44:54 - Heavy Duty Dub - Mudie & King Tubby 48:01 - Dub with a Difference - Mudie & King Tubby 50:55 - Real Rock version - Joe Gibbs 54:20 - Guess Who's Coming to Dub - Sly and Robbie 57:08 - Warn the Nation Version - Yabby You and the Prophets. ( Vivian Jackson) 1:02:25 - Tina May Version ( Fi-Wi-Time ) 1:05:15 - Psalm of dub - King Tubbys ( Black and White ) 1:08:18 Wall Street - Jackie Mittoo ( Studio One ) 1:11:36 Skylarking Dub ( Attack / Bunny Lee) Dont know who to trust ( version ) - The Aggrovators
I'll check out those other ones too. Don't think I've ever actually heard any Count Ossie but I know he's a big deal in the roots/nyahbinghi sound. Apart from the Dadawah album I don't have any Ras Michael albums, just a few tracks on comps
Got this Trojan nyahbinghi box set in the post -https://www.discogs.com/release/748611-Various-Trojan-Nyahbinghi-Box-Set. Ordered from Ashley Beedle of X-Press 2 fame, no less
― paolo, Sunday, 17 April 2022 08:19 (two years ago) link
Also just out of curiosity, any other dub fans find that the album format doesn't really work for them?
For me I think it's because on most dub albums all the tracks sound quite similar and you'll get more variety in a comp or the mix like the ones above
― paolo, Sunday, 17 April 2022 08:38 (two years ago) link
i'm the opposite and am a big big fan of dub albums. currently slowly working my way through this book, 100 Days of DubBy Martin Blomqvist - https://soundsoftheuniverse.com/product/by-martin-skyjuice-blomqvist
― stirmonster, Sunday, 17 April 2022 11:34 (two years ago) link
Looks interesting, ordered!
― paolo, Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:30 (two years ago) link
like stirmonster i often prefer a dub album made by one producer.in fact, i often prefer the dub version over the original.for example recent(ish) examples : massive attack vs mad prof, primal scream vs on-u
― mark e, Sunday, 17 April 2022 16:43 (two years ago) link
Ideally you really need to hear both, because knowing the original enhances the fun of hearing the dub
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 17 April 2022 18:11 (two years ago) link
ooh, absolutely.but i always end up preferring the dub version.
― mark e, Sunday, 17 April 2022 18:23 (two years ago) link
me too
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 17 April 2022 21:31 (two years ago) link
Same, mostly.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 April 2022 21:34 (two years ago) link
xxxxp this Primal Scream vs On-U Sound linkup is a new one to me. The only material I can find after a quick search is a single with Irvine Welsh. It's OK. Is there any more kicking about?
― paolo, Monday, 18 April 2022 09:29 (two years ago) link
Adrian Sherwood remixed the whole Vanishing Point album which was then released as Echo Dek :
https://www.discogs.com/master/28239-Primal-Scream-Echo-Dek
― mark e, Monday, 18 April 2022 10:11 (two years ago) link
That's pretty good!
― paolo, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 11:21 (two years ago) link
Speaking of Primal Scream, does anyone know where this dub reggae version of Loaded is from?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZUXTppisNU
― feed me with your clicks (Noel Emits), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 13:09 (two years ago) link
― stirmonster, Sunday, 17 April 2022 12:34 (one week ago) bookmarkflaglinkp-
This book is so good! Everyone who's into dub should buy a copy!
― paolo, Thursday, 28 April 2022 11:33 (two years ago) link
I don't think King Tubby ever made a duff track. And there aren't many artists you can say that about
― paolo, Saturday, 7 May 2022 14:14 (two years ago) link
Thanks for the Echo Dek rec, that is some good shit. What’s a good reggae book?
― Cow_Art, Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:15 (two years ago) link
Lloyd Bradley's book, which is called Bass Music in the UK and This Is Reggae Music in the US, is justly celebrated with the caveat that he's against anything post-roots
I also remember liking David Katz's oral history Solid Foundation, though it's been a long time. I haven't read his Scratch bio but I believe it's fairly well regarded.
The Rough Guide to Reggae is quite good too, though obvs not a continuous narrative.
Michael Veal's Dub book is kind of dry but worth a look
― rob, Saturday, 7 May 2022 18:37 (two years ago) link