my old friend from way back who lives in Berlin now was telling me you get fined for not carrying ID over there!
This isn't coronavirus related, most of continental Europe you need to have ID on you. Was quite surprised when a copper told me you don't in the UK, fancy the UK being easygoing on something like that.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 3 April 2020 10:24 (four years ago) link
Brown seemed weirdly desperate to introduce ID cards and it was scrapped by the coalition. Someone tries to float the idea every few years or so. TBH I think cost is the main reason they don't.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 April 2020 10:35 (four years ago) link
if there was compulsory ID for all then dirty voter suppression tactics would be out the window, unless they were a bit selective about who qualifies for it.
― calzino, Friday, 3 April 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link
Jesus, it's Friday already.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Friday, 3 April 2020 10:46 (four years ago) link
ah nearly sad afternoon sesh time, in the kitchen!
― calzino, Friday, 3 April 2020 10:48 (four years ago) link
if you have no ID and don't talk or cooperate what happens
― ogmor, Friday, 3 April 2020 10:49 (four years ago) link
We'll stand 'em up against the wall,and Pop goes the Weasel!
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Friday, 3 April 2020 10:54 (four years ago) link
if there was compulsory ID for all then dirty voter suppression tactics would be out the window, unless they were a bit selective about who qualifies for it.this is the problem. unless you can guarantee simple, free, universal availability (and renewal) you just shift the problem onto the getting of the IDs. in the US this is exactly where Republicans focus like a laser, making people travel hundreds of miles to drivers’ license renewal centres where they’re inevitably told they lack a piece of paperwork etc.
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 April 2020 10:56 (four years ago) link
You get fined? Frankly I've only ever witnessed ppl w/ no id being apologetic about it, and then cops tend to let you off as they would w/ a minor driving infraction (obvious caveats about the mood of the cop and the skin colour of the person asked apply).
And yeah UK elections are pretty insane when you've grown up w/ that too, couldn't believe I could just stroll up, give a postcode and they accept that!
xpost
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 3 April 2020 10:57 (four years ago) link
if there was one tory you could say would definitely be in a apoplectic rage about the idea of compulsory ID it would be David Davis. For decades he's ranting about it happening in a "back door" fashion, his conviction levels on this one issue is pretty impressive!
― calzino, Friday, 3 April 2020 11:13 (four years ago) link
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/apr/03/coronavirus-britain-economy-government-blame-labour
"An open goal" for a left that has just elected Keir Starmer 😷
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 April 2020 11:26 (four years ago) link
― extremely Dutch coughing sound (gyac), Friday, 3 April 2020 11:30 (four years ago) link
only a tory after all!
yesterday during hancock's half hour, one of the desperate, dubious sounding excuses he used that stuck in my mind was something like "Germany has a long tradition of having a diagnostics industry.. we've never really had that here"
― calzino, Friday, 3 April 2020 11:33 (four years ago) link
really sad story:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/nhs-nurse-dies-coronavirus-hospital-where-she-worked-areema-nasreen-walsall
― ymo sumac (NickB), Friday, 3 April 2020 11:42 (four years ago) link
Oh, you want heartbreaking?https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/apr/03/siblings-of-13-year-old-uk-coronavirus-victim-ismail-mohamed-abdulwahab-develop-symptoms
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 April 2020 11:58 (four years ago) link
fuck that’s devastating
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 April 2020 12:15 (four years ago) link
What i don’t understand is how nobody else in the family apparently had it until now? Seems impossible. If I cark it surely my wife, who also has all the symptoms, would be admitted to my room?
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 April 2020 12:18 (four years ago) link
For all the talk of "the virus doesn't discriminate", large families in small houses appear to be particularly at risk, especially multi-generational households. That means poorer families and in particular those containing first generation immigrants.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 April 2020 12:21 (four years ago) link
how do you fine someone if you don't know who they are and have no money on them? on the trains they ask you what address to send the fine too, which I find amazing
― ogmor, Friday, 3 April 2020 12:27 (four years ago) link
https://k39.kn3.net/taringa/1/7/6/2/1/8/73/schwarzbiercs/E67.jpg?2549
― rob, Friday, 3 April 2020 12:39 (four years ago) link
Exclusive:The full story of how a woman was wrongfully convicted under the Coronavirus Act and fined £660Marie Dinou:- did not enter a plea- was ejected from court for not speaking name- was not present when convicted- was held in custody for 2 dayshttps://t.co/X4zJO8yX4Z— Lizzie Dearden (@lizziedearden) April 2, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 April 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link
dirty dirty pig scum.
― calzino, Friday, 3 April 2020 13:11 (four years ago) link
But official guidance issued to officers by the College of Policing and National Police Chiefs’ Council states that “there is no power to ‘stop and account’” under the new laws.
Ms Dinou is not known to have undergone a mental health assessment, and a nurse was not present at court because of coronavirus.The court made no formal effort to confirm that she spoke English
The court made no formal effort to confirm that she spoke English
Cool, cool.
― ShariVari, Friday, 3 April 2020 13:15 (four years ago) link
684 new deaths, thanks boris
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 April 2020 13:16 (four years ago) link
It's ok though:
Queen records special coronavirus broadcastThe Queen has recorded a special broadcast on the coronavirus outbreak to be broadcast on Sunday, Buckingham Palace said.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 April 2020 13:28 (four years ago) link
exclusive sneak preview:https://i.pinimg.com/originals/ab/3f/92/ab3f92d0c670a2b0b30d4df45e1be349.gif
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 April 2020 13:30 (four years ago) link
"i've got it and i'm dying" or gtfo
― A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 April 2020 13:31 (four years ago) link
We are heading towards a thousand people dying daily. And people still have these stupid fucking " Everything is going to be fine" rainbow pics on their front windows. I'm going to put a " Twee Denialism and happy clapping degeneracy Isn't going to get us out of this shit " poster up in my window
― calzino, Friday, 3 April 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link
Not sure how 14 days isolation from the onset on symptoms makes any sense given that symptoms can last for more than 14 days. Anybody?
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
Depends whether you have ordinary COVID-19 or poltician's COVID-19.
― Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link
Actually no, it’s just 7 days. And as soon as your fever goes away you can stop isolating. This seems like madness. First of all, the fever can go away for a couple of days at a time and then come back. Second of all, there are respected virologists saying you can “shed virus” for 3 weeks after getting better.But no: symptoms appear, lock yourself away for 7 days and then as soon as your fever’s gone, go to the shops??
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link
gonna miss u big man
John McDonnell has called for a wealth tax on the richest in society and a windfall levy on the banking industry to fund the government’s emergency response to the coronavirus crisis, as the social and economic costs of the outbreak rapidly mount.In his final act as shadow chancellor before Labour elects a new leader on Saturday, McDonnell said the rebuilding job for Britain after Covid-19 should prioritise fully funded, publicly owned and democratically controlled public services.
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link
Going to miss having an opposition party as well
― calzino, Friday, 3 April 2020 14:16 (four years ago) link
This comment on a thread about care homes really hits home. In a lot of ways the NHS -- unable to test or take in this number of patients that are vulnerable/have underlying conditions already -- has already broken down.
this is what the arguments about "many of the COVID-19 cases will die anyway" mean in policy practice: it's a deliberate, state-directed decision to exclude a significant % of the population from the medical system altogether https://t.co/ELlYGP77cz— Lafargue (@Lafargue) April 3, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 April 2020 14:17 (four years ago) link
Dont give the tories any of that wet lefty babble about the sanctity of human life.
― calzino, Friday, 3 April 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link
how dare you, the tories absolutely believe in the sanctity oh human life
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:23 (four years ago) link
they just don’t believe the sick, the poor, the elderly or the disabled are human
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link
It's fine, we'll all be one or more of those four before too long. Literally everyone.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 April 2020 14:26 (four years ago) link
being rich supersedes all of those
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:27 (four years ago) link
idk at what point as you're being run over by a bus do you transition through sick before dead
― ban laggy jazzer (imago), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
We're all being metaphorically thrown under it anyway.
― Matt DC, Friday, 3 April 2020 14:45 (four years ago) link
They can bring you back to the precinct if they want to.
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 3 April 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link
This just made me think about the care home I used to work at and it's awful imagining what they'll be going thru at the moment
― A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:59 (four years ago) link
sure and take photos, fingerprint you but then how long can they keep you if you don't talk? I want to find out the easy way
― ogmor, Friday, 3 April 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link
"You can get a fine for not carrying your ID here but doubt it is being used in my area which is quite middle class"
bad grammar and all quote from my scouser in Berlin pal is probably quite telling!
― calzino, Friday, 3 April 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link
barely even 24 hours since hatt mancock delivered his bold promise to the nation, enchanting john crace in the process, and already the fucking wheels are falling off
The UK government’s pledge to carry out 100,000 coronavirus tests a day by the end of the month is unravelling, with NHS laboratory staff and scientists warning they do not have the test kits, chemicals and components they need to scale up.Boris Johnson is personally calling the major companies that make test kits to try to secure the UK supply, it has emerged, in competition with prime ministers and presidents from around the world.
― bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 3 April 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link
And not to get all fbpe on you but this is kind of an indicator of their capacity to negotiate trade deals without the bargaining clout of the EU behind us
― ymo sumac (NickB), Friday, 3 April 2020 19:17 (four years ago) link
tbf, France has just has 600m masks nicked by the US and Germany a bunch of ventilators.
― ShariVari, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:29 (four years ago) link
sounds like an argument for the EU sticking together. hugely depressing to think how the poorer nations of the world are going to fare in obtaining the supplies they need
― ymo sumac (NickB), Friday, 3 April 2020 19:36 (four years ago) link
Like to think the supply chain/manufacturing issues might be sorted out by then
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:38 (four years ago) link