We Still Have a Government, Right?: Canadian Politics 2020

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yeah they put the tape around the playground in the park next to my house a few weeks ago, and this week they taped up the exercise bars too

symsymsym, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link

never saw this story, it's hilarious: https://www.blogto.com/city/2019/06/toronto-illegal-weed-dispensaries-giant-cement-blocks/

symsymsym, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link

Ha, what?

Sund4r, Friday, 3 April 2020 02:33 (four years ago) link

lol

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 3 April 2020 02:41 (four years ago) link

Carol Arbour
Wow. Considering our current premier used to sell outta the park in Etobicoke, makes me think he's just jealous. What a waste of money and time.
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symsymsym, Friday, 3 April 2020 03:14 (four years ago) link

Some fucking allies we've got:

https://globalnews.ca/news/6772979/coronavirus-3m-n95-respirators-trump-canada/

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Friday, 3 April 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link

Hm, were they asked or ordered? The difference seems significant.

Sund4r, Friday, 3 April 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link

Good question – I don't know. Hopefully more details are forthcoming.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Friday, 3 April 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link

It's excruciating watching the press conference right now where the doctors reveal projections for Ontario. They look as grim as could be as they introduce their models.

clemenza, Friday, 3 April 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

12,000 cases by the end of April; 3,000-15,000 deaths at the end of two years, if measures stay in place or even expand.

clemenza, Friday, 3 April 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link

Just in ON?

Sund4r, Friday, 3 April 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link

Brace yourself--I misheard. That 12,500 figure is if stricter measures are taken. Under the current level of intervention, the model expects 80,000 Ontario cases by the end of April.

clemenza, Friday, 3 April 2020 17:13 (four years ago) link

Looking at the US numbers, I wonder if it might actually be good for us to stop receiving supplies from them. Maybe Trump is just protecting us.

Sund4r, Friday, 3 April 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link

Heh, that's the kind of 7d chess I can get behind.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Friday, 3 April 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link

I don't know if it's new or if I just noticed it, but the worldometer site includes total tests on their global chart now. Canada's administered 317,972; that's 8,425 per million people, which seems...not bad compared to most of the countries near the top of the total-cases list: a little less than Italy and Germany, more than Spain, almost double the U.S.A., 3.5 times the U.K. (Who knows how accurate these numbers are.) Also, with 13,912 positives, that would mean about one out of every 20 people who get tested register positive. Seeing as only people with suspected symptoms are getting tested...everything seems so dire and grim right now, but that seems like a sliver of good news, unless I'm overlooking something, which I often do trying to make sense of all the statistics.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 April 2020 02:47 (four years ago) link

Yeah, that actually surprised me.

Sund4r, Sunday, 5 April 2020 03:11 (four years ago) link

Third day in four (even on a Sunday) where we've had 1,500+ deaths.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:35 (four years ago) link

total deaths is currently under 300

flopson, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link

I continue to see that as a positive sign, but it seems so out line with most countries, I'm trying not to attach too much meaning to it. I remember feeling hopeful when our caseload seemed much smaller too, and that changed.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

"out of line"

clemenza, Sunday, 5 April 2020 19:48 (four years ago) link

cases or deaths, clemenza?

symsymsym, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link

yeah i was just responding to your presumed typo

flopson, Sunday, 5 April 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

That's now the second time I've done that--honestly, sorry. They should put me in charge of keeping everybody calm.

clemenza, Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:18 (four years ago) link

(The rest of what I said, though, applies; I've been encouraged by our low death total, puzzled by it, but trying not to read too much into it.)

clemenza, Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

I read an article earlier that said the backlog was pretty much cleared now. Someone on the labs side took initiative without actual authority early on and informally reached out to private labs like lifelabs, so they got some kind of cobbled together, cooperative system going now that’s mostly working. Stuff like that is giving me hope!

Kim, Sunday, 5 April 2020 21:56 (four years ago) link

Trump's awfulness encroaches:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/covid-19-coronavirus-monday-online-learning-starts-1.5523011

(misleading URL)

clemenza, Monday, 6 April 2020 18:34 (four years ago) link

Oof, also questions being raised about a year's worth of N95 masks that were planned for delivery to Quebec this month: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1690961/masques-n95-3m-commande-quebec-compromise-washington-trump

Good to hear about the new production facility being approved, though.

Sund4r, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 00:43 (four years ago) link

Wu Tang Clan doing their part for the capital last week:

We got you @adammiron @ottawafoodbank. Just made a donation ourselves. Appreciate Canada holding us down all these years. To our Canadian brothers, @strombo, @solicitorct & @therealrussellp, can you spread the word for more donations? #fighthunger #ottawa https://t.co/dFWPqCuyww

— Wu Tang Clan (@WuTangClan) April 2, 2020

Sund4r, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 03:02 (four years ago) link

Far from perfect, but he continues to surprise me next to his role model.

http://www.timminstoday.com/around-ontario/covid-19-first-ontario-produced-masks-ready-for-use-premier-doug-ford-says-2235610

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

Yep, was hearing about that on the radio. It's good news. 21 deaths today is not, though.

Sund4r, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link

Pretty funny.

Oh man. Trudeau says, on wearing masks, that his understanding is it can be helpful as it prevents you from "breathing or speaking moistly" on others.

"Ugh what a terrible image."

MOISTLY. Our prime Minister just said "moistly," folks.

More: https://t.co/gDsnZulB1L. pic.twitter.com/3ihklc7yvz

— Rachel Gilmore (@atRachelGilmore) April 7, 2020

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link

(Trudeau, I mean, not the tweet.)

clemenza, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 22:12 (four years ago) link

Also everyone in Canada knows that "moistly" refers to "sounding like David Usher".

MarkoP, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link

Indeed.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link

Other Words from moist
moistly adverb

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/moist

Sund4r, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link

But yeah, not the most elegant way to phrase that thought.

Sund4r, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:01 (four years ago) link

OK, now that I watched the clip and see that "ugh, what a terrible image" was actually JT's own comment, I think it WAS the most elegant way to phrase that thought.

Sund4r, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:30 (four years ago) link

I can't really stand to listen to him when he's in formal address mode (as he is when not taking/answering questions). He sounds like he's selling me something over the phone.

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

Ha, he always just sounds like a drama teacher to me.

Sund4r, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

Ha, I watched the moistening live - he obviously had instant regret over that phrasing.

Kim, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 17:55 (four years ago) link

Had the CBC on for a couple of hours this morning, including Trudeau's daily briefing, instead of CNN. There is a definite difference in terms of how return-to-normal is being presented: here, that means August/September, in the States, June. As much as I might hate it, I'm glad the view here is August/September--which, admittedly, is a lot easier to say when you're retired and not worried about your job.

clemenza, Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link

43 social distancing fines issued over the weekend just in Ottawa, incl $880 for sitting on a park bench. 26 fines in Gatineau.

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1691539/distanciation-sociale-parcs-amendes-ottawa-gatineau

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:39 (four years ago) link

Trudeau basically stated that 'this is the new normal' until a vaccine is developed. Grim but clear.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:42 (four years ago) link

(xpost) Is the park-bench ordinance a municipal thing? I had considered taking a book with me in the next week or two and doing some outdoor reading on one of the benches around town, but I won't now.

clemenza, Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link

Yes

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link

Had the CBC on for a couple of hours this morning, including Trudeau's daily briefing, instead of CNN. There is a definite difference in terms of how return-to-normal is being presented: here, that means August/September, in the States, June

Interesting. In French, he said what pomenitul paraphrased and gave a possible timeline of 1-1.5 years.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 9 April 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link

I was drifting a bit...August/September seemed to come up, I thought, as a date for maybe not normal, but at least steps towards that (also in the CBC coverage after Trudeau spoke). Maybe I misheard, though. 18 months, wow.

I continue to check our daily cases.

http://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/canada/

Hard really to read anything into that the last few days.

clemenza, Friday, 10 April 2020 01:21 (four years ago) link

I guess political fallout was inevitable.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/covid-19-government-documents-1.5528726

clemenza, Friday, 10 April 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link

Eh, I can see why they would have been reluctant to adopt restrictions on civil liberties and privacy or to shut down economic life before there was clearer evidence of a crisis in Canada. Seems like the right approach tbh. I don't think the evidence really suggests that Canada has done worse than comparable countries.

Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Friday, 10 April 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link

Probably not, but still --

A March 10 department-drafted briefing note prepared for Health Minister Patty Hajdu ahead of question period said that, with just 12 cases being reported nationwide at that point, "the risk of spread of this virus within Canada remains low at this time." The note also said the public health system is "well-equipped to contain cases coming from abroad, limiting the spread in Canada."

-- is not appreciably different than Trump's response: basically, it's not bad now, so it won't be bad two weeks from now.

clemenza, Friday, 10 April 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link


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