Spotify - anyone heard of it?

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Ah, that could be it. I'm listening via the desktop app

groovypanda, Thursday, 2 April 2020 12:58 (four years ago) link

been kind of at a loss for what to play around the house. Test Press playlists hitting the spot. Thank you, gp

maffew12, Thursday, 2 April 2020 14:09 (four years ago) link

the first track on the Test Pressing "On The Beach" playlist briefly made me remember what happiness feels like, this shit is dangerous

lukas, Friday, 3 April 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link

Don't really understand the decision to prioritise 'did you mean...?' results over exact matches in the search. E.g. searching for SND returns Snoop Dogg, Snap, Sade and Snoh Aalegra - you have to click through to see the actual artist (more than one actually) called SND.

a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:07 (four years ago) link

weird, I do that on my phone and it comes right up as the 1st result (the minimal techno group, that is)

zoomer death circus (sleeve), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link

hmm, not for me (in the first results screen that shows albums, artists, playlists, and songs).

also i suspect these are not all by the minimal techno group:

https://i.imgur.com/CbIvR3K.png

a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link

lol

zoomer death circus (sleeve), Thursday, 16 April 2020 15:25 (four years ago) link

Short names are a constant source of pain. I'll ask to have that page cleaned up...

glenn mcdonald, Thursday, 16 April 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

It would also help to have an exact-match option, e.g. by surrounding quotes as in Google.

anatol_merklich, Thursday, 16 April 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link

so do the royalties for all the SNDs go to the same SND?

brimstead, Friday, 17 April 2020 00:04 (four years ago) link

is there, like, something that differentiates them for royalty purposes that isn't carried over into the UI/search? or something?

brimstead, Friday, 17 April 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link

Having barely listened to Spotify curated playlists before, I've played some over the last couple of days. It seems - at least on some throwaway 'alternative 80s or 90s' playlists - the volume isn't set to one and the same level. Is that correct, or is it my setup? Annoying to have to fiddle with it when every new song is louder/softer than the previous one tbf.

There's a "normalise volume" option in the settings.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Friday, 17 April 2020 09:26 (four years ago) link

Ah, thanks!

how well it works is another matter.

a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Friday, 17 April 2020 09:37 (four years ago) link

actually maybe it works fine except through sonos :/

a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Friday, 17 April 2020 09:40 (four years ago) link

... which is my setup :-/

Royalties are paid to licensors, track by track, so the artist pages you see in the app are basically irrelevant for monetary purposes...

glenn mcdonald, Friday, 17 April 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link

yeah I figured. just wondering.

brimstead, Friday, 17 April 2020 20:20 (four years ago) link

I recall that discover weekly playlists used to have a feature that seemed specific to DW; as you were listening to the tracks, there was an icon opposite from the heart that let you choose "I don't like this song" or "I don't like this artist". if you selected it, it would then grey the track out in your DW playlist (and presumably help refine the recommendation algorithm). has that moved elsewhere or did spotify totally remove it?

musically, Thursday, 23 April 2020 17:08 (four years ago) link

I still have that feature, on both (Mac) desktop and iOS versions.

Alba, Thursday, 23 April 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link

Here's how it looks on iOS

https://i.imgur.com/nRo7GOk.jpg

Alba, Thursday, 23 April 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

that's what mine used to look like...

musically, Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/oZ4LmFK.jpg

musically, Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

same

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 23 April 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link

Hey glenn - I've noticed the Spotify support on my Alexa devices has gotten worse and worse:

1. Trying to play a song by a band is near-impossible. Best case, I get one of those "This is xxxx" playlists started.
2. When I tried to play a specific song by the Beatles the other day, Spotify (or maybe this is on the Alexa end?) just wouldn't let me do it - kept playing covers or other SEO SPAM.
3. When I do Spotify Connect on my Alexa devices, I lose the ability to skip tracks.

#3 is probably on the Amazon side (and I'll pursue it on my end), but the other two items seem like a mixture of NLU issues and SEO mitigation. Any ideas?

DJI, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 15:57 (four years ago) link

spotify on google home loves to play weird versions of songs (demos, live versions, alternate takes) instead of the actual song. it happened two days ago, i asked for "near wild heaven" by REM and it played a demo version from the bonus tracks.

na (NA), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:23 (four years ago) link

I've never grasped how this happens. I sometimes get weird amateur Led Zep covers instead of the originals.

I assume each track has a unique DB entry. Maybe if that entry gets replaced it attempts to make a best guess at the correct new entry?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 16:35 (four years ago) link

Yeah, Alexa's preference for spammy cover bands over the real thing is a real problem but I'm not sure if the problem lies at Spotify's or Amazon's end. Playing the Beatles is pretty much impossible.

Alba, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link

I don't see how Alexa would change what spotify plays

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:23 (four years ago) link

Getting a This Is playlist for an artist is, I think, the intended behavior. Part of the reason we HAVE those playlists is to have a thing to play when we're asked for just an artist.

Not actually sure whether the Beatles issue is an Alexa issue or a Spotify one. It's often maddeningly complicated what happens when you ask Alexa for something. The query we end up getting on the Spotify end isn't always the same as what you say. But I'll pass along your report to the voice team, at least...

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:31 (four years ago) link

I've gotten the This Is playlists a lot when asking for specific songs by an artist.

I'm not sure what the division of processing is on the voice input between Amazon and Spotify, but something seems broken lately.

DJI, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

Oh, DJI: do you remember exactly what your Beatles request was? Or what song? And what country are you in?

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link

"alexa play you've got to hide your love away" and "alexa play you've got to hide your love away by the Beatles" is what the Echo heard. Both times I got (different!) spammy cover band versions. I'm in the US.

DJI, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

thx

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link

as always, thank YOU!

DJI, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:33 (four years ago) link

Me: Alexa*, play And Your Bird Can Sing by the Beatles

Echo: Playing And Your Bird Can Sing by the Beatles Tribute Band

* actually 'Computer' as my wife prefers that wake word to having a compliant (actually not so compliant) woman in the house

I'm also in the US. I'm pretty sure this happens with every Beatles track - I just chose that one at random.

Alba, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link

And yes, when I go into the Alexa app, it says she heard exactly the right thing. Just DISOBEYED me.

Alba, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link

I read someone online suggesting that Spotify does this because it pays less royalties to the Beatles Tribute Band but I would like to believe this to be a terrible conspiracy theory.

Alba, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 18:54 (four years ago) link

I mean, as conspiracy theories go, that one at least has a rational justification. But no, we're not doing this intentionally.

glenn mcdonald, Wednesday, 29 April 2020 19:12 (four years ago) link

Seems like it used to tell me when I created a playlist but now I can’t find it.

Together Again Or (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 1 May 2020 17:57 (four years ago) link

My son asked Google home to "play some music on Spotify" and it decided to play a Dexy's Midnight Runners compilation which no-one on the family account follows. Not complaining tbh, just seemed an oddly specific choice for such a non-specific request.

Non, je ned raggette rien (onimo), Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:22 (four years ago) link

be grateful you didn't get journey

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:54 (four years ago) link

boy would I love to see the complete code chain of the decision tree that came up with that

epicenter of the fieri universe (sleeve), Saturday, 2 May 2020 00:57 (four years ago) link

that's what sexist robot construction worker said

Morton Koopa Jr. Sings Elvis (Sufjan Grafton), Saturday, 2 May 2020 01:13 (four years ago) link

lol

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 2 May 2020 01:31 (four years ago) link

Finally made a dent in my Epic Playlist this evening.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 02:57 (three years ago) link

Epic Collection, I mean.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:57 (three years ago) link

Basically most songs don't need to be me in the Liked Songs playlist. You just like the album and follow the artist and you can find them that way.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 18:58 (three years ago) link

So listening to some Pearl Jam today and some of the songs have wee animations that go along with them: Lukin, for example. But my brother doesn’t get them! Anyone else?

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 19:54 (three years ago) link


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