Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

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who doesn't love a distant, emotionally unavailable man

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:43 (five months ago) link

Half man.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:43 (five months ago) link

Spock blubbing like a child, pull yourself together half man!

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:45 (five months ago) link

Half amazing

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:46 (five months ago) link

Wow, this is the actual episode where Scotty says, "I canna change the laws of physics!"

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:46 (five months ago) link

greatest not-yet-living scotsman

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:47 (five months ago) link

Kirk's got it now - or is he just acting? 'Just' acting, it's Shatner, LOL.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 09:53 (five months ago) link

McCoy and Scotty the unlikely heroes as Spock went through some sort of Oedipal crisis and Kirk lost it for all of two (very intense) minutes.

Bridge Over Thorley Waters (Tom D.), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:01 (five months ago) link

every kirk minute is an intense minute

bam! Free bees! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 10:02 (five months ago) link

that rattle music cue signifying infection would be useful rn

mookieproof, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:12 (five months ago) link

every kirk minute is an intense minute

I'm arming my future with this truism, thank u in advance

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 17:27 (five months ago) link

just took a stroll through this thread and yikes, the ilx trek discourse was quite a bit less enlightened back in 2001...

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 17:33 (five months ago) link

Surely:

the ilx trek discourse was quite a bit less enlightened back in 2001...

Triceratops Vowell (Leee), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 18:08 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Currently showing the episode which introduced the character of Khan - which I'd never seen before, in fact there's been a few I hadn't seen before, which surprises me. So it was news to me that:

1. Khan is from 20th century Earth.

2. He was involved in a 'eugenics war' on Earth in... 1993!

3. He's Indian - which explains the name Khan, I thought it was just LOL Star Trek writers using a name that sounded like a 'science fiction' name. He is, however, described as Sikh when Khan is a Muslim name.

All of which goes to prove I am no Trekkie, I suppose.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Monday, 27 April 2020 09:37 (five months ago) link

Plus what a fucking howler of a blunder by Kirk at the end of the episode.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Monday, 27 April 2020 10:00 (five months ago) link

An Indian played by a Mexican! Close enough for 1960s TV I guess.

archangel's thunderpants (Matt #2), Monday, 27 April 2020 12:28 (five months ago) link

a mysterious illness running rampant on the Enterprise

actually 22% of all star trek episodes across all series have infection plots

j., Monday, 27 April 2020 15:37 (five months ago) link

3. He's Indian - which explains the name Khan, I thought it was just LOL Star Trek writers using a name that sounded like a 'science fiction' name. He is, however, described as Sikh when Khan is a Muslim name.
IIRC he was named after Gene Roddenberry's old army pal or something like that?

Tuomas, Monday, 4 May 2020 15:10 (four months ago) link

The synopsis for this morning's Star Trek episode:

"McCoy becomes deranged and changes the past. Can guest star Joan Collins help?"

Get your popcorn out.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 09:01 (four months ago) link

IIRC he was named after Gene Roddenberry's old army pal or something like that?

Kim Noonien Singh, Roddenberry used the name in an attempt to get in touch with him, which obviously failed as he tried again in TNG with Noonien Soong.

a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 09:12 (four months ago) link

The synopsis for this morning's Star Trek episode:

"McCoy becomes deranged and changes the past. Can guest star Joan Collins help?"

Get your popcorn out.

Considered to be possibly the best episode of the original series.

He Ain't Heavy D, He's My Brother (PBKR), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 11:33 (four months ago) link

Not according to Harlan Ellison

the fucking cunts treat us like Styx (Matt #2), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 12:13 (four months ago) link

are they going to wrap around to the beginning?

koogs, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 12:58 (four months ago) link

(oh, that's only the end of TOS series 1, i thought it was the end of the whole thing)

koogs, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 13:41 (four months ago) link

>Considered to be possibly the best episode of the original series.

pretty intense. Edith Keeler aka Joan Collins death came unexpected.
Bones accusing Kirk was even more disturbing ..."YOU killed her!"

meisenfek, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:56 (four months ago) link

Did you notice Floyd’s Barber Shop in the background?

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 16:57 (four months ago) link

what's up with the star trek tos technique where just someone's eyes (usually kirk's) are lit, in a band, while the rest of the face/body is in relative darkness? was that sort of thing common?

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:01 (four months ago) link

FLOYD RULES. Actually I don't know what Floyd’s Barber Shop is... or was.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:02 (four months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/QoyJH2E.jpg

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:03 (four months ago) link

In Trek? absolutely! I recently watched ST: Nemesis and they did it even then on a closeup of Troi.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:03 (four months ago) link

And, of course, the introductory soft focus for attractive female guest star/ Kirk's latest squeeze.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:04 (four months ago) link

Another thing I've noticed is the sheer amount of make up everyone wears - especially McCoy!

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:05 (four months ago) link

So they had this great German cinematographer Karl Freund who worked for Desilu on I Love Lucy who figured out how to shoot a sitcom along with this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Daniels?wprov=sfti1 who also directed many, many episodes of another Desilu production, Star Trek.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:12 (four months ago) link

FLOYD RULES. Actually I don't know what Floyd’s Barber Shop is... or was.

Popular place to go on The Andy Griffith Show.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:13 (four months ago) link

We never got that over here.

Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:18 (four months ago) link

It’s kind of a US version of The Sweeney except...

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 May 2020 17:21 (four months ago) link

I was bored and unwell and put the animated series on Netflix yesterday and watched an episode called The Jihad. It was the most baffling 20 minutes of cartoon show I think Ive ever watched.

- An alien shaped like a badly taxidermied cat gathers Kirk, Spock and a ragtag team of other aliens (ft: some wormulon dude, an amazonian with big tits, a lizard and a winged eagle thing)
- they are meant to be going to some "mad planet" to locate a holy relic bcs if they dont, the people of said planet will start a jihad bcs its stolen and will kill everyone for some reason
- oh and btw this planets atmos goes from 200Kelvin below to 200 above freezing and is covered in volcanoes and earthquakes but NBD
- nekminnit they are all on the surface just hanging out in this volcanic minus kelvin weather with NO PROTECTVE GEAR, amazon lady barely has anything on, no one is cold/hot/bothered in any way.
- amazon lady comments on how men are dumb but hey Kirk yr kinda hot wanna make out? She does this multiple times during the episode
- oh no a lava flow is heading our way, and we cant outrun it! Quick lets spend 10 minutes reconfiguring the energymotron or whatever to make our escape! Oh no its still going to outrun us. Never mind one of the crew can FLY and could have I dunno, picked them all up in his talons or something?
- they find the thingy theyre looking for but oh no its a trap! Eagle dude always does this
- by this point I gave up and I lost track of WTH was going on to be quite honest.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 06:03 (four months ago) link

yesteryear is the only tas episode worth watching. maybe the clip of the holodeck too.

wasdnous (abanana), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 08:36 (four months ago) link

i had never seen the one before where kirk gives a dramatic reading of the constitution to a band of white mongol (?) liberty-worshippers

j., Wednesday, 6 May 2020 08:51 (four months ago) link

That one is kind of bad, despite that classic moment.

yesteryear is the only tas episode worth watching. maybe the clip of the holodeck too.

Oh yeah, had to look it up but remember that one from the original run. Some people like TAS because of all the name screenwriters but I dunno.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 17:32 (four months ago) link

I like it because the episodes are shorter

umsworth (emsworth), Wednesday, 6 May 2020 21:07 (four months ago) link

Series two has started. Obviously took them a while to get Chekov's wig right, he looks ridiculous in the these early episodes.

Frank Bough: I Took Drugs with Vice Girls (Tom D.), Friday, 8 May 2020 09:06 (four months ago) link

There are some classics in the early part of Season 2.

Pissed Jeans Genie C. Riley (PBKR), Friday, 8 May 2020 11:37 (four months ago) link

Didn't Roddenberry go missing towards the end of season 2?

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:04 (four months ago) link

the gene l. coon era was the best -- he started doing the script-editing/showrunning when Miri was being filmed, stayed on until around halfway through season 2. he amped up the kirk/spock/mccoy dynamic and made the show more lighthearted.

wasdnous (abanana), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:19 (four months ago) link

Sounds about right.

My Chess Hustler (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:22 (four months ago) link

that dynamic = "Earth people have moved beyond racism but Vulcans are fair game"

Flaneuring Bevan (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:23 (four months ago) link

Roddenberry stepped back a bit after Miri in season 1, giving the main line producer/showrunner job to Coon. then later he pretty much abandoned the show when nbc gave season 3 a bad slot.

wasdnous (abanana), Friday, 8 May 2020 12:27 (four months ago) link


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