Come anticipate David Fincher's "Zodiac"

"Nothing makes sense anymore."

https://www.theringer.com/movies/2020/9/21/21446089/david-fincher-profile-director-set-stories

George Drakoulias, the film’s music supervisor, remembers visiting Fincher’s office when Zodiac was in preproduction. “The whole bottom floor was just research: books and evidence, transcripts, documents, photographs,” he says. “It was a little frightening, especially given the subject and how deep he had gone into the research.”

Graysmith used some pseudonyms in his book, since he implicated individuals as being possible murderers, but Fincher was determined to use only real names, which meant verifying everything with at least two sources. Vanderbilt and Fincher would travel to San Francisco and spend days talking with the cops who’d worked the case when it happened, those who had taken it up in later years, and the two survivors of the killer’s attacks. The shooting script swelled to 202 pages, the depiction of Graysmith shifted, they introduced uncertainties about Zodiac’s criminal capabilities, and Fincher encouraged Vanderbilt to abandon contrived plot conventions like Jake Gyllenhaal’s and Mark Ruffalo’s characters meeting early in the film. “I had had three movies made at this point,” says Vanderbilt. “One was about a killer tooth fairy, one was a John Travolta–Samuel L. Jackson movie that I describe as ‘the one they did together that wasn’t Pulp Fiction,’ and one was The Rundown, which I love, but is the Rock’s second action movie. Doing a serial-killer procedural with David Fincher was a very different world to be in.”

I heard Fincher got so into his research he actually started murdering people, man.

one was a John Travolta–Samuel L. Jackson movie that I describe as ‘the one they did together that wasn’t Pulp Fiction

Basic >>>>>>> Pulp Fiction

Ha! Travolta's character in that is named TOM HARDY!

hard to believe this was one year before Iron Man, the pre-Avengers times

Zodiac's 340-char cipher cracked:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1oQLPRE21o

Did the cracking involve someone going to the library?

Close! An American software developer for a federal defense contractor, an Aussie Applied Maths scientist + a Belgian warehouse operator/computer programmer who devised the decryption algorithm solver these three used to solve it.

that's really cool actually

He has another video analyzing Graysmith's solution

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_Oh4snhF70

v cool

i love that first video walking through how they did it, codebreaking is dope imo

The fuckin' library.

(I know I'm not contributing anything here, I just love quoting the movie.)

D R I N K

M O R E

O V A L T I N E

“Sonofabitch! It’s a commercial!”

VG I immediately though of u when Sunny posted this on FB :)

:D

it def says something about this case that the message ends up (unsurprisingly) being more of the same boring braggadocio

https://blog.wolfram.com/2021/03/24/the-solution-of-the-zodiac-killers-340-character-cipher/

huh

https://www.fox13now.com/news/national-news/investigators-say-theyve-finally-identified-the-zodiac-killer

I have a slightly used vault that used to belong to Al Capone I'd be interested in selling for $1M or best offer. If interested, please contact me care of FOX NEWS.

TMZ broke it first but I can't read their article due to work filters

The investigators were commissioned by a television producer who obviously wants to hype the audience numbers, so the linked article is rather thin on details. But the guy they name is dead, so libel shouldn't be a legal worry. In other news, the case of Jack the Ripper has finally been solved... for the ninth time!

the only clue they've revealed is that he had wrinkles on his forehead.

looking at some zodiac forums, nobody believes the name works as a key to the ciphers. It uses the same bullshit anagramming that Graysmith used -- it produces nonsense text, then rearranges the letters until they make words.

What do the forums think of that Wolfram decipherment krakow posted?

nvm https://www.reddit.com/r/ZodiacKiller/comments/kb173t/the_340_has_been_solved/

Aren't these just normal wrinkles, not scars?

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2021/10/1862/1048/37073095-Poste.jpg

yes

I need to look him in the eye, and I need to know that it's him.

No way, that's not him: no glasses!

the actual press release on this is much more interesting than anything in the news reports which are all kind of vague:

https://secureservercdn.net/166.62.114.250/g9q.07b.myftpupload.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Zodiac-Killer-Press-release-1-1.pdf

intrigued by this 'criminal posse'

i am skeptical purely because it’s Riverside which always felt like a separate set of murders than Vallejo/Bay Area zodiac …but that’s just my nerdy halfassed opinion

and there is so much ~un~confirmed that any sense that theyve “got” the guy feels wildly insanely premature

where are the claims that the letters in his name decode some of the cyphers coming from

The claim is in the press release but they haven’t showed their working yet. One of the case breakers mentioned on Twitter it involves anagrams which doesn’t sound particularly convincing.

that's what i saw too

yeah I mean these are retired law enforcement. are these usually people we just believe?

idk that i believe un-retired law enforcement

I don't really follow the case so I don't know how the circumstantial evidence for this suspect compares to that of any other, but it's a good story, and it seems like a big deal that it should be possible to definitively confirm whether or not it was him:

https://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/zodiac-killer-paul-alfred-doerr/

No idea how credible it is either, but that's a great story

blank check podcast doing Fincher series, Zodiac episode went up today

naturally i am now rewatching for the seven zillionth time because it’s the best movie ever

if i ever get a tattoo it will be
a) an aqual velva
b) paul avery w cravat
c) animal crackers?
d) lamp?)

*AQUA goddammit

This can no longer be ignored.

(I want this to be like the JFK thread, where we drop by with random quotes.)

how does one do THAT

i drop "this can no longer be ignored" into daily life, usually when gesturing to a pile of clean laundry my son has yet to put away.

jesus harold christ on rubber crutches bobby you’re doing that thing the thing we discussed the thing that i dont like
starts with an L

looming

yep

you want me to tell him that verbatim or can i spice it up a little

Eagle Scout, actually--first class.

key memory of seeing this for the first time with mr veg

him being SO psyched at all the period recreations of bay area/SF stuff, the chron, the freeway, transamerica, tv stuff etc

me being SO psyched by all the zodiac recreations of the letters, codexes, cards, and the suspect casting etc

we nerded out so hard on this movie in completely separate parallel lanes lol