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That was the saddest fucking wedding.

xp after gus dies and everything’s exposed, the cops come for that guy who’s shown mechanically trying disgusting-looking dips, but he goes into the toilet and kills himself with a defibrillator

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

right!

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

dunking first taste of new product in ketchup not good for evaluative purposes imo

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:41 (four years ago) link

someone deserves an award for this matter of fact wiki version

In Hannover, Germany, when the police arrive to question him about his relationship with Gus Fring, Peter commits suicide by sticking one end of an automated external defibrillator in his mouth and the other over his heart. The electric current flows, and Schuler slumps onto the floor of the bathroom, dead. His death then triggers the automatic flush function on the toilet.

assuming this list of known restaurant chains is correct:
Los Pollos Hermanos, Stingin' Rays, Luftwaffle, Whiskerstay's, Haau Chuen Wok, Burger Matic, Polmieri Pizza

I did a double take at Luftwaffle

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link

seated nexy to Gus was a rep from another taco chain, too

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:44 (four years ago) link

another?

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link

no—a Mexican chain, was thinking Hermanos was Mexican food

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:46 (four years ago) link

though I guess technically it is

Together, the "chicken brothers" made a name for themselves and their small-town eatery by using authentic flavors and spices to make the tastiest chicken south of the border.

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

hmm yeah if it's slow-roasted chicken they advertise and they just now added the fries, what was making the fryers dirty? call the plot hole police!

did anyone else laugh at Gus inspecting the fryer basket before setting it aside, despite the fact he was about to blow up the place?

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link

Saul’s rant at the end is an even more delusional “I am the one who knocks” (but sadder to see because jimmy is more likeable and his petty megalomania doesn’t just come from wounded pride, failure and resentment)

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

xp that was excellent

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

Spice Curls, put some respect on their name

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

Gus's beaming pride when he said the name was funny.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:50 (four years ago) link

yes, totally performing "normie" for the other owners

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:52 (four years ago) link

same tone he used when doing charitable things for the community in BB

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:57 (four years ago) link

Yeah - I like the implication that he is genuinely proud of his spice curls, and sincerely sees worth in his community-building, BUT also has absolute contempt for displays of pride, AND cares even more about how well they cover for his criminal enterprises.

So he's learnt a performance of pride which connects with other people who care mainly about such things, and that also helpfully projects him as a simp to people who don't.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link

The way gus is filmed and portrayed in this series is ridic, somewhere between a terminator and Satan


...and Mr C. I’m glad to get a bit more of mild normie gus tbh, I found him scarier when he was a bit less scary. We haven’t seen enough of the Clark Kent side this season

Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 17:40 (four years ago) link

of course he insisted on being the one to blow up his own restaurant so that he'd know it was competently done

mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 17:45 (four years ago) link

...and Mr C.

cleaning's good, cleaning's good
cleaning your grill tray's good

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 17:56 (four years ago) link

As my wife commented when Gus was kneeling in front of Peter to calm him, "he is terrifying and reassuring all in equal measures".

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

Odenkirk is great, I love the guy, but he’s a comedian, not an actor

calstars, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:33 (four years ago) link

kind of apt for someone playing a con man trying to be a lawyer

mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:42 (four years ago) link

I have accepted that there's a lot of pantomiming and telegraphing in Odenkirk's acting. It's most glaring in one-on-one scenes with Kim, when he's going for earnest.

But most of the time he compensates for that with charisma—he's still compelling to watch!—and yeah the fact that he's playing someone whose whole m.o. is a false front helps too.

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:50 (four years ago) link

(xpost) Same applied to his agent Stevie Grant in Larry Sanders, the ultimate con man. Acting or not, I think he's great in both, maybe even more so in Larry Sanders.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:59 (four years ago) link

Kim’s comedic turn imitating Kevin in S5 e5 is pure gold.

calstars, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 02:00 (four years ago) link

I loved that rant to Howard at the end; it’s why I have always loved Odenkirk, he’s so good at being inappropriately angry

plus: it’s ~that~ exact potion of boiling hubristic rage mixed w deep entitlement & bone-deep insecurity that will permanently turn Jimmy into Saul.

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 06:21 (four years ago) link

Definitely

paolo, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 07:48 (four years ago) link

I liked when the judge asked if these are the witnesses and Huell went 'mmmmhmmmmmmm'

paolo, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 07:48 (four years ago) link

I'm also surprised that Kim is apparently OK with Jimmy working for the goddamn cartel

paolo, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 07:49 (four years ago) link

thought for a minute that they were gonna kidnap Kim

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:06 (four years ago) link

Now that everyone seems to be caught up, wasn't there a shot in the previous to last episode--when Jimmy was shooting the get-Verde video, and Kim offered to come in and help clean up--that suggested Kim was being followed and watched? I kept waiting for either her boss or the Mesa Verde guy to say "Oh Kim, by the way..." at some critical point.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:15 (four years ago) link

I don't think she knew about the video's contents, or even that it was about Mesa Verde. It was part of what seemed to genuinely shock her at the meeting.

mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link

I got the impression that the copyright infringement charge was her idea, but not the commercial

frogbs, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link

yup, that picture was the thing she saw in the dossier delivered by the guy who broke into the house

mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link

I thought she was all-in on the videos/copyright infringement accusation and then decided against that play at the eleventh hour. She was shocked because Jimmy disregarded her decision.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link

agreed with old lunch

ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 15:01 (four years ago) link

I'd buy that

mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 15:03 (four years ago) link

I didn't explain clearly. When Kim entered the place where Jimmy was doing the shoot, we saw her enter in longshot, as if from the point of view of a car across the surveilling her.

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 16:00 (four years ago) link

"across the road"

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 16:00 (four years ago) link

It's been great re-watching this, actually - I realise how much of my mindgrapes were spent trying to work out 'what's Mike doing?' 'what's this scam' etc (sooo many sequences were set up to reveal themselves slowly) and this time I can sit back and enjoy watching it a bit more? Although I'm still trying to work out, e.g. 'hang on, does Gus know Mike and Nacho were working together before?' Obv now I'm back to 'what's he doing now?' mode.
The bit with Jimmy going further than Kim supposedly wanted with the Mesa Verde stuff - I found that almost physically painful to watch.

I liked we got a reference to the 'two previous dissolutions' for Jimmy (I hadn't remembered at all, but there was a ref in BB about Saul's 'second wife slept with my stepdad'.) https://screenrant.com/breaking-bad-better-call-saul-vince-gilligan-plot-hole/

kinder, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:23 (four years ago) link

Also, lol @ Lydia keenly piping up to suggest a prison shanking

kinder, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link

very onbrand lol

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 2 April 2020 01:00 (four years ago) link

shank or a shiv or whatnot

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:28 (four years ago) link

I liked we got a reference to the 'two previous dissolutions' for Jimmy (I hadn't remembered at all, but there was a ref in BB about Saul's 'second wife slept with my stepdad'.)

I still think about this scene a lot, there's no way they had any clue where the story was going 10 years later when this was filmed. hard to think of another example of a throwaway line leading to such an expansive plot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gM6_FCeiBA

frogbs, Thursday, 2 April 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link

is he saying 'lalo didn't send you"?

akm, Thursday, 2 April 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link

"What can I do for you gentleman?!"--Jimmy/Saul, always polite.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:24 (four years ago) link

I did a double take at Luftwaffle

I couldn't believe that!

no feeble christ (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 April 2020 05:54 (four years ago) link

Please explain significance of that scary clip?

dow, Monday, 6 April 2020 16:36 (four years ago) link

it's a scene from S2 of Breaking Bad with a throwaway line that references characters who wouldn't be written into the series for 6-8 years

obviously its just sort of a writers trick, leave a breadcrumb that can be referenced later (afaik the writers have admitted a few times they don't really plan things out in advance), but still pretty cool to see that develop into basically half of the show

frogbs, Monday, 6 April 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link

‘So you’re his *wife* and you *love him* and he didn’t come home last night’

love Lalo’s line delivery

mh, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 02:38 (four years ago) link


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