US Politics, March 2020 — There’s a very good chance you’re not going to die.

I’ve only heard him on the radio, he sounds like he has respiratory problems

“I haven’t heard about testing in weeks,” the president said. “We’ve tested more now than any nation in the world. We’ve got these great tests and we’re coming out with a faster one this week.” Reiterating his point, Mr. Trump added, “I haven’t heard about testing being a problem.”

Idgi kevin whats yr beef w Pelosi’s proposals?

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would largely funnel money to relatively high earners in high-tax states

awsum

her donors I guess

lol ok

“relatively” doing a lot of work in that sentence

Good to know you guys are into Trump’s punitive tax laws tho

We also like Kevin Pollack

shakey did you read the article

The richer you are in a high tax state, the more state taxes you pay. Which is a good thing. Deducting those taxes from your federal taxes means less of your money goes to the feds to finance lower tax states (ie red states w shitty tax structures, which are already funded by the tax largesse of blue states).

Relatedly, as a poverty-wage earner in a high tax state, deducting my already high state taxes from my federal taxes benefits me as well. I would assume morbz is in a similar situation, idk about kevin

Makes sense to me.

I dont read the NYTimes but I read about her SALT proposal elsewhere

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^^^

testing is a problem

nah this guy in Australia told me today the West is greatly outtesting Asia so we good

i haven't heard that testing is a problem

on the contrary, testing ensures that no child is left behind.

shakey you know I love you but we also both know that nancy pelosi could literally diss your own mother on national TV and you would be out there defending her the next day. if you have information the NYT and the experts they cite do not, please write a letter to the editor to correct the record

That could be achieved, she said, by having Congress “retroactively undo SALT,” a reference to a cap on the state and local tax deduction that Republicans included in their 2017 tax overhaul. That limit prevents households from deducting more than $10,000 a year in state and local tax expenses from their federal tax bills.

Many liberal economic policy analysts also oppose lifting the SALT cap, calling it regressive tax policy. Seth Hanlon, a senior fellow at the liberal Center for American Progress, said the same logic was also a reason not to lift the limit in the next economic rescue bill. That is particularly true because consumption data show that low- and middle-income Americans are more likely than higher earners to spend benefits from the government immediately and stimulate economic activity.

To continue with direct assistance, Mr. Hanlon said, “there are ways you could target it to truly middle-class people. The problem is, relatively few middle-class people claim SALT.”

The Tax Policy Center estimates that only 3 percent of households in the middle quintile of American taxpayers would receive any benefit at all from the SALT cap repeal.

“In and of itself,” Mr. Hanlon said, “it doesn’t strike me as the most effective way of targeting economic stimulus.”

“relatively” again doing some major fucking heavy lifting - the SALT cap is 100% a fuck you to middle class people in blue states

how’s 3 percent for a precise number?

The congressional Joint Committee on Taxation estimated last year that a full repeal of the SALT limit for 2019 alone would reduce federal revenues by about $77 billion. Americans earning $1 million a year or more would collectively reap $40 billion of those benefits. Most of the rest would go to households earning $200,000 or more.

I mean I get that it’s a clever fuck-you to blue states. almost exclusively wealthy people in blue states!

Is the idea here that wealth in California is measured on a different order of magnitude than in other states?

how’s 3 percent for a precise number?

Is the idea here that wealth in California is measured on a different order of magnitude than in other states?

I don't disagree exactly, but as much as I like visiting CA, there's a reason why the idea of ever moving there seems like a crazy pipe dream to me.

yes, I too want more money in my own pocket

True story: Trump had a longstanding feud with this tribe over control of a casino and https://t.co/nvMFC4Vsmx

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) March 28, 2020

Republican Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin called to reopen parts of the American economy to avoid throwing it into a recession or depression. He said “death is an unavoidable part of life” in a USA Today op-ed published Monday.

what the fuck is happening

theyre all saying the quiet part out loud

"Vote Death (ps we're still pro-life if it means we get to dictate what women do with their bodies)"

https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/3/31666/889139-judge_death_18.jpg

Good morning!

"Death is a part of life", Ron Johnson acknowledged as his voters pushed him in front of an oncoming bus

Seriously, sounds to me like he's volunteering.

apparently, one of the things that shocked trump out of his completely idiotic views on coronavirus (which will come back, i'm sure) was this survey from Pew Research:

https://www.people-press.org/2020/03/26/worries-about-coronavirus-surge-as-most-americans-expect-a-recession-or-worse/?

https://i.imgur.com/UtTOdUM.png

oh, you

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Tuesday blamed the Democrats’ push to impeach President Trump in January for distracting the Trump administration from the threat posed by coronavirus.

“It came up while we were tied down in the impeachment trial. And I think it diverted the attention of the government because everything every day was all about impeachment,” McConnell said in an interview on “The Hugh Hewitt Show.”

Wow. Surprised it took them this long to come up with that.

we also both know that nancy pelosi could literally diss your own mother on national TV and you would be out there defending her the next day.

also lol I love the part where we get to bad faith arguments about the predispositions of the other side. I haven't criticized Pelosi much because I think she's been remarkably consistent in her latest tenure as Speaker, I don't think she's made many missteps given the limits of her power. Naturally I could make the inverse argument about you (or Morbz) but since I'm not an asshole I generally don't.

Who the fuck does McConnell think he's fucking kidding with that bullshit?!?

I mean, yes, of course, the entire ultracredulous Republican party...but besides that, who?!?

like am I supposed to keep a log of the things I publicly disagree with her about? I know Morbz still labels me an Obama-stan even though I've repeatedly pointed out criticisms I made on ILX about extrajudicial killings etc. You can't win...

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if you could have it on my desk by five that would be great

aw shakes I wasn’t saying that to be mean or personal, I was just ribbing u. you’re one of my favorite posters even if you agree with fred too much

I'm picturing all the Republican senators hunkered down in a December stop-coronavirus strategy session, getting called away on some trivial impeachment matter.

Who the fuck does McConnell think he's fucking kidding with that bullshit?!?

well, you see, they were so focused on the case and making a good faith effort to investigate his wrongdoing, there was no time for anything else. really hard to figure out if trump was guilty or not, wow, what a case! many agonizing long nights, thinking about the details and whether or not trump might have been involved in some wrongdoing, or as some allege, if he was in fact the rotting heart of corruption, as if all the corrupt acts flow directly from the president of the united states. luckily after many long nights of the soul all of the republicans (except romney, who is the antichrist) determined in good faith that he did absolutely nothing wrong, at all, and that there was no need to even hear directly from the people who directly spoke with him about the alleged wrongdoings! but wow, all that hard thinking really did wipe out january

fair enough, no worries k3v

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k3v and Shakes, happy hour at my place, 5 p.m. Enter through the back. Beers will be on the table. I'll sit 12 feet away.

It's Infrastructure Week motherfuckers!

With interest rates for the United States being at ZERO, this is the time to do our decades long awaited Infrastructure Bill. It should be VERY BIG & BOLD, Two Trillion Dollars, and be focused solely on jobs and rebuilding the once great infrastructure of our Country! Phase 4

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) March 31, 2020