Joe Biden, Senator from Citibank (oops, DELAWARE), to Run for President

i guess the difference is that in this case there's a rival CEO that's even worse, and we have to pick between the two

I don't want Donald Trump to be president and will do what my own enthusiasm permits to prevent it from happening. Which pretty much to not campaigning for Donald Trump, either, and crossing my fingers that Biden doesn't shit the bed in WI PA etc.

Again, I live in MA, and I recognize that's a privilege many voters don't have.

pretty much *extends* to

blah blah counterfactuals but I do wonder how Biden would have fared against media constantly challenging him and fueling a narrative about how unrealistic and pie-in-the-sky his plans are given Republican intransigence, the realities of climate change, etc.

Sanders and Warren would've gotten it too under normal times, i.e. non-plague times.

I don’t think people should be dishonest about their feeling for the greater good of electing Biden. First of all, it’s not sustainable—you can’t enforce it across the board and trying to do so will just build more resentment of Biden. Second of all, I don’t want to.

Poll: Biden leads Trump by 10 points as economic pessimism grows

Former Vice President Joe Biden leads President Trump by 10 points nationally in a new poll, bolstered by an advantage with independents.

The poll also shows pessimism about the economy growing, a factor that could help Biden and hurt Trump in the poll.

The latest Harvard CAPS-Harris Poll finds Biden getting 55 percent support, versus 45 percent for Trump. Biden has 96 percent support from Democrats, while Trump has 89 percent support from Republicans. Independents break for Biden by a 54 to 46 percent margin.

vote tomorrow.

also include Bernie in the vote.

top two vote getters are co-Presidents.

That is a sure-fire formula for four years of co-President Trump.

nah he can't work with people, there'd be a fist fight and then he'd start clutching his chest from being asked to do any physical activity, and die Redd Foxx style

why don't we just skip the next 4 to 4000 years and get to the end game:

national fist fight for president

https://jezebel.com/tara-reades-allegations-deserve-more-care-1842515308/amp?

that's a good article

Yup, its a solid take.

I post this in no way as a reflection of my own opinion--don't really have one, yet--but because it's been such a topic of conversation on this thread. Anyway, reading just the beginning, seems like there's not agreement here, either.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/so-about-that-supposed-lack-of-enthusiasm-for-biden/

Not good. Won't even try to guess Biden's motives; Trump's couldn't be more transparent.

http://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/politics/joe-biden-trump-coronavirus/index.html

Biden's going to suggest Corn Pop for Coronavirus Czar

you all laugh now, but when Biden murders Trump in cold blood at point blank range we'll be all be saying "no malarkey". and then we'll all say "joe...joe, no joe"

imo the currently tepid enthusiasm for Biden will be entirely overwhelmed and rendered moot by Democratic voters' tsunami of desperation to rid ourselves of Trump.

yeah, agreed

imo the currently tepid enthusiasm for Biden will be entirely overwhelmed and rendered moot by Democratic voters' tsunami of desperation to rid ourselves of Trump.

I agree its mistake to conflate April and November and just assume a tepid April means a tepid November, but I don't think this is a given either - particulary as the effects of coronavirus over the intervening time period aren't known, nor how it will affect either Trump or Biden. Iraq took a long time to finish off Bush, he rode its wave for some time before it turned on him

He was finished off by ... term limits

Oh, we're talking about poppa bush

That tsunami of desperation that famously swept John Kerry into office.

No I was talking about Bush II. Yes term limits was what finished him off so its not a direct analogy but his low poll ratings were some way into Iraq. If we want to say comparing first term and second term presidents doesn't really work thats a fair argument though!

Maybe ‘orange man bad’ is a winning strategy in the end but it certainly seems risky as hell given the variables of 2020 and the reality of 2016 and every other 21st century Presidential election.

There's a lot of road between now and the general, especially with the covid situation. I wouldn't say its guaranteed to be Biden at this point (not that I think it will be Bernie)

This is being turned into a replay of 2016 (only with a senile sex pest in Hillary’s stead) - “most progressive platform ever” so you better fall in line and the comfort of status quo norms (America is ALREADY great!!!) and orange man bad/racist/etc. without any sort of positive vision for the future and, uh, Trump won the first time around.

Realized my last post unclear. I meant I wouldn't say its guaranteed he becomes the candidate, with everything thats going on now and over the next few months

Coronavirus hasn’t killed any really shitty famous/powerful people yet, I don’t think Biden’s gonna eat it before November.

He’ll campaign via an iPad being carried around in public on a stick if necessary to keep him isolated from any carriers/anyone he could sniff on camera.

"There's a lot of road between now and the general, especially with the covid situation"

We'll see how many people are either killed or are able enough to vote (whatever way they choose) by November.

It may only matter if it's close.

Biden has seven grandchildren https://t.co/ndaPcPFevI

— Joe Gabriel Simonson (@SaysSimonson) April 2, 2020

this is one of the most unique stutters I've ever heard

Listen Jack, it doesn't matter how many grandkids I've got.

lol

the fact of the matter is

lookit. lookit all my grandchildren, scattered across this beautiful country. i love them all so much. and that's why i'm going to be the next president of the usa

that's number one. number two-

Two of his grandkids were, tragically, named Malarkey, and he refuses contact.

Look, he's got at least five grandchildren. I don't know how many lamps, but he must have five of those as well.

Biden family members die so often—it’s hard to keep track of numbers

oof

(raymond j. barry voice) wrong biden died!

lol (sadly)

I think if you asked Joe, he'd sadly agree. It's easy to see how much he loved and admired his son who died.

Joe Biden’s greatest moments as an orator have been when he speaks about the terrible pain he’s been through as a widower and as a father who’s outlived his children

Mostly because he doesn’t talk about any of it from a woe-is-me perspective

Joe Biden’s greatest moments as an orator have been when he speaks about the terrible pain he’s been through as a widower and as a father who’s outlived his children

I'd give somewhat more of a shit and would be significanly less inclined to crack jokes if he extended his sense of pain to encompass the uninsured and underinsured. or y'know advocated for sweeping change given the demonstrably shrinkable crisis that's about to kill god knows how many americans. (mostly preaching to the choir, I know.)

Your evidence that he doesn’t support any path to universal coverage is that he doesn’t support M4A, which is electoral failure

Need a more convincing citation than bernie not being the nominee pls