A PS4 Thread: Because You Had to Play "Knack"

tim rogers called it a "metroid prime-like" which intrigues me. can anyone else corroborate?

i complained about this on whatchu playing now but i thought control was cool until i couldn't get past the first boss. i am terrible at shooters though.

its a shooter/adventure game hybrid like metroid prime yes. prime had lock-on shooting though iirc so it didn't require very much aiming

I can't aim worth shit on the PS4. When I restarted Doom on that system I had to set the level down to poopypants or whatever, because it's like I'm playing with my left hand only and no thumb. Didn't know Control needed, well, controlled aiming.

control also doesn't let you change the difficulty fyi

Yeah, Control is actually fairly hard and has few alleviations for that (aside from investing in the Launch power, but that won't get you through everything alone); one of the flaws for sure. A friend of mine never made it past the first boss fight and gave up on the game :( Your main defensive powers don't open up for a long time and you have to run-and-gun or duck behind furniture for a while.

It is like Metroid Prime in its overall world map, places getting unlocked over time via new abilities, environment puzzles, secrets, collectibles etc. an a relatively enclosed world, as opposed to the stuff you see in GTA and Assassin's Creed games. Also the dark, mysterious, lore-ridden spookiness of it, maybe.

Ack, just saw that you had the same problem as my friend, NA

yeah. i wish games still had cheat codes.

I admit that the shooting isn't great in CONTROL, but the game wants you to use the Launch ability as your primary offensive weapon.

Moreover, Launch has auto-lock so as long as you get your reticle in the neighborhood of an enemy they'll probably get hit with a wad of concrete.

Yep, and even the gun aiming is fairly generous when you are using Pierce.

Regular battles are easy, the bosses are quite tough so far.

Mostly because it is very easy to fall off stuff when you are fighting them though.

launch and levitate and a modicum of common sense will see u thru

first boss is the hardest required boss, a few of the side bosses are pretty tough. very annoyed that the DLC is ps4-exclusive (or at least not on xbox) for the time being!!

agree first boss is the hardest then it gets easier tho i did quit in frustration last night after dying twice to some banshee/phantom boss in black mesa that appears behind you clobbers you for 90% of your health and then turns invisible only to do it again. both times i got her to a sliver of health and then died myself. frustrating!

I read that you can sit pat and use shield to block most of the banshee's damage, I never tried it though. (What I did actually track it down while it's mostly invisible -- you can see some ripples in the air to roughly locate it. Also, evade when it becomes visible again.)

i'm not sure i have shield. where do i get it? i do have evade.

I'd completely forgotten that it's an acquired ability! You get it on this side quest: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2019-08-28-control-a-good-defence-shield-6043

If that's not available to you yet, IIRC you can still spam evade to avoid getting hit by her. I also remember struggling against that boss.

haven't played Control for a while but the one thing that became obvious was that doing the side quests is key because unless you're insanely good, you need all those abilities

ah, you know i did get that mission but i couldn't figure out how to get into field training bc the door had that red block on it and i didn't realize i could puzzle solve to open it. thought it would just open later on its own and i'd backtrack.

Yeah, any sidequest that mention an Object of Power, do it right away.
Hah, yeah, I had the same feeling on that particular thing; it's not always clear what a story-progression gate and what's an environmental puzzle to solve.

a friend of mine has coaxed me into playing COD together online as a way to socialize and my god i am so horrible at shooters with a controller, Karl otm it really does almost make me angry (esp since on the computer i'm pretty ace)

guys, I've been playing Doom Eternal on pc and... I'm not good at shooters on pc anymore, either

old :(

Play it on easy mode imo

Forgot to mention that Control's music is pretty ace too! Excellent use of Tricky, among other highlights.

control probably deserves more points than i gave it in the poll i'll share more thoughts there when it places but i also assumed it would probably do well anyway even without me and there's always too much stuff that i want to vote for

dark brutalist aesthetic that's fairly minimal other than the ZILLIONS OF PARTICLES FLYING is pretty fucking awesome imo

Uncharteds, no! no nathan drake! fuck you nathan drake!

I've just spent days and days playing through the Nathan Drake collection and I 100% support this sentiment.

i never understood its popularity

god of war either tbph

Charming rogue + Indiana Jones, but gah, I found the games all painful to play.

Maybe! But God Of War looks pretty cool, and so do these Uncharted games, so that's something. I'll see.

most games >>> God of War >>> Uncharted
imo

OK, not "most games" but i'd put almost all the games from your recent list above both of those

lol there is no way I'm getting to any of the Uncharteds any time in the next 6 months.

started Control yesterday. Not sure what to make of it yet.

I'm really starting to believe that Witcher 3 spoilt me as my introduction to modern gaming. I mean, it really has everything going for it, and by comparison many other games I've attempted to start feel rather 'on rails', a little 'sure walk about a bit but sooner or later I must funnel you through this particular corridor so that this particular plot trigger will happen, oh now press this button, now that button.. etc. Can feel a bit like I'm just playing a movie or being a mouse in a maze. that's the impression I got of The Last Of Us and to an extent Control so far, but maybe they open up a bit later on. I love the exploration aspect of Witcher and the way there's more than one potential plotline. A lot of other games just feel kinda closed-in.
Death Stranding less so as it's very open world but it's starting to feel a little monotonous - the endless rocky landscapes, the way all the waystations and cities are built roughly identical. I'm not expecting to see a Toussaint any time soon, and the side quests seem to involve going back and forth from the same few places. but then I'm still on the early chapters so I'm sure there'll be a lot more variety to come

i don't mind the uncharteds. they are like the old-school game that comes packaged with your console that is designed to show off its best graphics and sounds but is also pretty easy to avoid scaring off people new to gaming.

I'm sure Control is great, but I watched a few minutes and was kinda put off by the running animation and the general 'to-do' list vibe (explicit "Find the Storeroom" instructions), etc. Still ruined by From games, I guess.

for all the talk about how cool the building is ("it's like its own character!") a lot of it is unmemorable maintenance and facility layouts. why so many men + women's bathrooms with nothing in them? i've been in more coolant rooms in video games than i've been in real life and part of my job used to be tracking/inventorying infrastructural equipment in big buildings.

I'm also not a fan of the game physics. The jumping looks jerky and when I run into, say, a trolley with a load of bottles and stuff on it, it just falls over like it's made of cardboard.

Apparently next month's ps plus giveaway includes Uncharted 4 which for me was the

"game that comes packaged with your console that is designed to show off its best graphics"

iirc my review was "really pretty climbing"

the uncharted game without Nathan Drake was really fun

If Uncharted 4 is free, it's definitely worth digging into. There are some really cool set pieces in the middle of the game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVBL1c4ZZe8

The Last of Us 2 is delayed indefinitely

To the contrary, pretty sure it's been released and we're living it. The graphics are incredible.

i hope the skill tree opens up soon. i enjoy the weird "pace", though - feels like real life

lol guys

another cool thing - i really like this minimal interface. i've seen this attempted in other games, but for this i feel like i'm actually MOVING my hands, like i am controlling my hands directly. not just the general hand movement, but the fingers, the knuckles, everything. it's really intuitive. and it's not just a graphics trick - it actually affects the whole way you approach the game, the things that you can do. earlier today i pushing a glass of milk down the hallway. then i realized - i can wrap my fingers around it and squeeze, and just carry it down the hall instead. i saved like 2 minutes that way, and was left with much more of the milk than i usually get by pushing it. the pace is still the weirdest thing about the game. i'm prepared to say that i like it, and i would not have said that when i first started. but it does have a kind of rhythm to it. the day/night cycle lines up with real life, like animal crossing

you can do other cool things with the glass of milk like throw it at your roommate. actually the physics are really good if you can pickup your roommate you can throw them too and the environment reacts accordingly to what you'd expect throwing 180lbs into a wall or a couch or whatever afaict it doesn't mechanically do anything or unlock any achievements

bosses are OP tho