Agree with the Borg disappointment. Since the theme of the season was synthetic life, and the Borg themselves are semi-synthetic, I was expecting that to tie in with the main plot, but it never did. The whole thing with Hugh and the XB's and Seven of Nine was pretty much irrelevant in the end. They didn't event get to use the Borg cube for anything, so what was the point of bringing it to the android planet?
― Tuomas, Saturday, 28 March 2020 23:37 (three years ago) link
when i looked at them all sitting eagerly like picardians! assemble! right at the end my heart just sank and never stopped
― mark s, Saturday, 28 March 2020 23:50 (three years ago) link
from a none-too-elevated starting point
Resurrecting him at the end really cheapens the sacrifice he meant to make, doesn't it?
I don't know why but the writing on nu Trek has been so awful and scattered. Moral lessons undermined or unearned, plot holes galore.
― Triceratops Vowell (Leee), Sunday, 29 March 2020 00:52 (three years ago) link
Crashed borg ship looking tempting as beachfront luxury high rise condo; just needs some TLC
― Philip Nunez, Sunday, 29 March 2020 04:22 (three years ago) link
lol at 'let's get drunk with a stranger' and/or 'let's weep in the arms of a stranger'
tbf rios honestly had better chemistry with seven -- perhaps because his badass cigar was elsewhere -- than with our wee murderer, whose eyes are too damn close together. also raffi is the absolute worst and she's gonna drag seven down with her
― mookieproof, Sunday, 29 March 2020 07:16 (three years ago) link
This was quite bad.
They should just stop making trek stuff
― COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 29 March 2020 07:30 (three years ago) link
I disagree, because I like Discovery. Even if it did go off the boil towards the end of the second season.
I just can't get over how they threw the Borg away like that. How was Jean-Luc's tumour nothing to do with his Borg implant, when it so easily could have been a shadow of that? How was the scary entity that crosses dimensions when it learns of a group of high-functioning synthetic beings not the Borg? That is absolutely a thing they would do. How is Jean-Luc Picard totally fine with having his consciousness put into a non-human body without his permission? Surely that would be one of his great nightmares? I would expect it to be in his will! "No pissing about with my consciousness after my body dies." And why wouldn't you make his synthetic body younger? I know there are production reasons for that, but it makes no sense in context.
Mind you, the special effects in this were very impressive. I especially liked the space orchids. I also liked the fact that neither terrible Romulan boyfriend nor Rios appear to have bothered getting super-swole for their tank-top scenes. I mean, I'm sure they hit the gym that week, but it wasn't an all-out gun show.
― trishyb, Sunday, 29 March 2020 08:30 (three years ago) link
This was bad. I got very annoyed with it after a few episodes. Just as with Discovery the show tries to be too many things at once without doing any of them particularly well.
― Ok bloomer (latebloomer), Sunday, 29 March 2020 11:01 (three years ago) link
How was Jean-Luc's tumour nothing to do with his Borg implant, when it so easily could have been a shadow of that?
TBF, Picard's brain disease was already introduced in the potential future seen in the last episode of TNG, and no Borg connection was mentioned there... But you're right, they still could've easily retconned it so that there is such a connection.
― Tuomas, Monday, 30 March 2020 06:46 (three years ago) link
i liked that the borg were sidelined in this, that the ideological differences between them and the extra-dimensional ancient synths that were stuck in the romulan brains literally disabled the cube like a virus.what i didn't like was that the big bad guys ended up being third rate flying spaghetti monsters.
they could have also let picard spend some of next season goofing off in the black lodge having tea with other killed-off characters before resurrecting him.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:39 (three years ago) link
Never seen this TNG ep and hate that I haven't:
The TNG episode where Data goes off pic.twitter.com/kG8hHW0hba— klon peags (@tembeep) April 11, 2020
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 11 April 2020 09:56 (three years ago) link
data's examples are mexico's war of independence, ireland, and one made-up rebellion. i think the writers put too much credence into duck you sucker.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Saturday, 11 April 2020 13:26 (three years ago) link
i am almost done with a complete star trek watch/rewatch and i went back to picard just after i finished tng—i had stopped a couple episodes in because it seemed kinda unnngh
but it turned out alright after that! on a par with discovery.
i liked how the narrative ended up reviving the idyllic-colonists/natives storyline repeated ad nauseam in tos and tng but centered it on the synthetics. it was kind of lol though that after all that the romulans just gave up. it was like their core belief! tested with its worst possible scenario!
presumably the possibility of going on means that they have a lot of borg stuff in their pocket to use in a second season.
― j., Wednesday, 22 April 2020 04:45 (three years ago) link
Forgive the thread spam, but I wanted to note that this show's 2020 season is nominated in the 2020 ILX TV poll:
ILX's Best Television of 2020 Poll / VOTING AND CAMPAIGNING THREAD / Voting Ends After January 29, 2021
If you like this show and you'd like to see it have a good showing in the poll (running in February) all you need to do is submit a ballot including it and your other favorites (3 minimum, 25 maximum, ranked by your favorite to least favorite) to forksclovetofu at gmail. It'll take five minutes; get to it!
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 21 January 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link
And look who's back
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 5 April 2021 19:24 (two years ago) link
sure is a lot of lens flare goin in that office
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 5 April 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link
“I don’t really need a second season of this show”*watches teaser*“Eh, what the hell, I’ll watch this”
― mh, Monday, 5 April 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link
WHOO BORG QUEEN.
― Ovid-19 (Leee), Monday, 5 April 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link
pretty into a new Q story tbh
― tomorrow, Monday, 5 April 2021 22:39 (two years ago) link
Oh fuck your "cant watch this in your country" you tube!
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 6 April 2021 06:40 (two years ago) link
You know Q has aged surprisingly well!
Also, interesting that season 1's crew is back again -- and the return of his Romulan helpmates! -- especially because I didn't think that Jeri Ryan's commitment would extend beyond that handful of epsidoes.
Trying to keep my expectations in check, though, lest we get a repeat of what happened last year.
― BABA BUOY (Leee), Thursday, 17 June 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link
It’s a charismatic cast that works well together, I’m up for it.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 17 June 2021 14:41 (two years ago) link
Dug the Romulans and 7, not that excited to see the rest of them.
I still haven't seen last year's series finale - I guess we just forgot about it?
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 17 June 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link
I watched the Discovery pilot then bounced. I think I mainly enjoy old mainly-episodic comfort food Trek, the new more serialized high-stakes-all-the-time variety doesn't work for me, never checked this one out cause it seemed to be a similar style
― intern at pelican brief consulting (Simon H.), Thursday, 17 June 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link
If you don't like Discovery, this is more of the same except worse. I don't mind Discovery though - but still haven't seen S3.
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 17 June 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
I didn't realize that Chabon (still on the writing staff) isn't show-running for season 2 -- instead, it's the 12 Monkeys guy.
― Gemini Cricket (Leee), Wednesday, 21 July 2021 23:40 (two years ago) link
He was also involved with Voyager and Enterprise I think
― groovypanda, Friday, 23 July 2021 07:17 (two years ago) link
Was not expecting a dark gritty reboot of Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home -- or a certain returning character -- but
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link
dang you got me all stoked for the mom from 7th heaven
― adam, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link
Also season three is happening so hey.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 9 September 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 January 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 7 January 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link
This comment (originally posted in jest) aged surprisingly well.
― Wordle Stephen Curry II (Leee), Friday, 21 January 2022 23:18 (one year ago) link
Anyway, here's another trailer:
― Wordle Stephen Curry II (Leee), Friday, 21 January 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link
first episode was p great! just zips right along
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 March 2022 07:01 (one year ago) link
Just finished rewatching S1 and glad i did as had forgotten SO much
― groovypanda, Friday, 4 March 2022 10:51 (one year ago) link
Don't get my hopes up, Veg.
― Mobile Suit Gundam Style (Leee), Friday, 4 March 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link
get em up! way up!!
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 4 March 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link
I got this!
― Mobile Suit Gundam Style (Leee), Friday, 4 March 2022 23:02 (one year ago) link
OMG this actually was good! But, where is mark's bad paintings on TV thread?
It was jarring to see though scenes of domestic abuse on a Trek show.
― Mobile Suit Gundam Style (Leee), Saturday, 5 March 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link
Also yaaas queen, her new ensemble is awesome. Looks almost McQueen, fittingly.
― Mobile Suit Gundam Style (Leee), Saturday, 5 March 2022 21:41 (one year ago) link
itt: paintings that are plot-points in movies and TV that are terrible paintings (or excellent ones if there are any)
― mark s, Saturday, 5 March 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link
Honest question, not snark, not well versed enough in Trek lore to know - why are li'l picard and his mom dressed like it's the 1930's?
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 7 March 2022 14:12 (one year ago) link
lol that was something I wondered myself -- I thought maybe because they're vintners but the dialogue suggested that they're moving from Paris.
― Mobile Suit Gundam Style (Leee), Monday, 7 March 2022 17:20 (one year ago) link
his brother dressed kind of oldtimeyish in the TNG ep…i didnt think much of it i figured it was just an oh yknow, Paris, winemaking ~handwave~
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 7 March 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link
In Star Trek, if you live on a planet, and you're not a soldier or a politician, you get "peasant-y type local attire"
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 7 March 2022 17:35 (one year ago) link
everyone is a historical cosplayer in the future of france
― mh, Monday, 7 March 2022 17:36 (one year ago) link
quiddities and agonies of ST groundlings
― Everybody Loves Ramen (WmC), Monday, 7 March 2022 17:37 (one year ago) link
it's skintight or kaftan, there are no other fashions
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 7 March 2022 17:39 (one year ago) link