We Still Have a Government, Right?: Canadian Politics 2020

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Ugh, sorry--769 new cases, that's what I meant. The cases aren't flattening.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 March 2020 19:57 (four years ago) link

that was scary!

symsymsym, Saturday, 28 March 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link

this story about the Alberta health minister is great stuff: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-minister-tyler-shandro-behaviour-vital-partners-1.5511288

symsymsym, Saturday, 28 March 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link

I don’t think we can really expect it to flatten significantly until something like 3 weeks after most travellers returned because doubtless a ton didn’t isolate properly or are just going to get sick even in isolation, and will spike the stats. Probably will have a better idea a month from now. I’d guess there was also significant spread during the panic shopping phase, which seems to be easing, but that’s also a slowdown that’s going to take weeks to be seen in the stats.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Saturday, 28 March 2020 21:19 (four years ago) link

Asked a friend about this a couple of days ago--it just disappeared from the news.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/sophie-trudeau-feeling-great-covid-19-1.5513731?fbclid=IwAR1ptDilNam95gsQUmDd2Gx5pGUP7gSVRWGFZhol510KnCyCakVgzCN-z9Y

clemenza, Sunday, 29 March 2020 01:54 (four years ago) link

Xp. The top doc here bonnie henry is far too sanguine and was talking about hoping new cases would start dropping in 10 to 14 days on wednesday. Really don't understand the rationale behind saying stuff like that when we've had issues with people not taking social distancing advice seriously

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Sunday, 29 March 2020 07:59 (four years ago) link

Interesting - Montreal police going to start fining people for not observing social distancing directives: https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1689514/coronavirus-montreal-police-policiers-spvm-covid-19-pandemie-bilan

A bit o_O that citizens will be encouraged to contact the police or call 911 if they observe a violation.

Sund4r, Monday, 30 March 2020 00:45 (four years ago) link

Oh, Vancouver is already doing this?

Sund4r, Monday, 30 March 2020 00:47 (four years ago) link

don’t think so

flopson, Monday, 30 March 2020 03:29 (four years ago) link

OK, it's limited to orders issued under the state of emergency, which means only one so far concerning bars and restaurants: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5508543

Sund4r, Monday, 30 March 2020 03:42 (four years ago) link

Re: Vancouver

Sund4r, Monday, 30 March 2020 03:44 (four years ago) link

Almost 3,500 confirmed cases in Quebec. It’s too early to tell, but it does seem as though Legault wasn’t decisive enough.

coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:37 (four years ago) link

Henceforth even grocery stores will be closed on Sundays.

coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:38 (four years ago) link

ON has one more death than QC, though. Maybe QC is testing more?

Sund4r, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

Oh, no, QC is ahead. The federal page is not up-to-date.

Sund4r, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

Based on the numbers Legault provided during today's press conference, death rate in Quebec is currently around 0.7% – may it remain so.

coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

Given that Legault was acting more decisively than any other leader in the country, I think it's wishful thinking to imagine that he should have known to make even stronger choices.

I blame the snowbirds who ignored instructions, went to weddings, etc.

sean gramophone, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:48 (four years ago) link

That's fair, I'm just confused as to why BC's curve seems so much less aggressive seeing as that's where it started in Canada.

coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 30 March 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link

Didn't realize that Ontario's cases were so starkly in contrast to the notion that those over 60 are most at risk.

              Number	 Pct.
19 and under 42 2.5
20-64 1,319 77.3
65 and over 343 20.1

http://www.ontario.ca/page/2019-novel-coronavirus#section-0

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 18:01 (four years ago) link

I don't think those over 60 are more at risk of contracting the virus than any other age group? I think they are more at risk in the sense that the virus is more likely to be fatal for them? I could be wrong.

Sund4r, Monday, 30 March 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link

That's my understanding as well.

coco vide (pomenitul), Monday, 30 March 2020 18:08 (four years ago) link

Could just be a reflection of misrepresentation in testing? I mean, they were only testing those who travelled for a long time and I’d suspect 20-64 forms the majority of that group.

Manitobiloba (Kim), Monday, 30 March 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

All makes sense. I think I should just hire someone for the next few months to make sense of all the data and graphs I encounter.

clemenza, Monday, 30 March 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link

That's one thing that really aggravates my spouse: the demographic that was most likely to be tested was not the one that was most likely to be killed by the virus. xp

Sund4r, Monday, 30 March 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

I saw a couple of things today that indicated they're fining in Toronto now for not social-distancing. That's good--frightening, but good.

When I was just out for the evening walk, the same police car, moving slowly passed me twice--it was pretty clearly out there monitoring. The second time I waved. I guess you're okay--for now--if you're alone.

(St. Marys doesn't have its own police--used to, I believe, but now there are one or two Stratford cops who work out of the municipal building on the main street.)

If this every moves to a literal stay-at-home order, I've got a decent-sized backyard and will get by, but that'd be tough.

clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 00:30 (four years ago) link

Quebec testing most aggressively but also most indiscriminately (i think still the only province with drive thru testing?)

takes a long time for the distancing measures to kick in but im p confident Quebec’s will soon

BC testing is more targeted and had limited community transmission for most of the early stage

optimistic about both provinces’ chances

flopson, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:28 (four years ago) link

*the effect of social distancing on spread

flopson, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link

We actually had drive-thru testing at one hospital temporarily until they opened a clinic for it at an arena.

Sund4r, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 02:36 (four years ago) link

which arena? Sorry i forget if u live in van or toronto

i heard they’re turning VCC into a hospital

flopson, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 03:32 (four years ago) link

I live in Ottawa, actually; no worries, it's forgettable. Brewer Arena.

Sund4r, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 03:48 (four years ago) link

I blame the snowbirds who ignored instructions, went to weddings, etc.

― sean gramophone, Monday, March 30, 2020 1:48 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

also la bise

flopson, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 06:04 (four years ago) link

^ A problem for Italy as well?

Sund4r, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:16 (four years ago) link

I never see that cheek-kissing business in Gatineau. Is it just a Montreal thing? Do I just hang out with too many dudes?

Sund4r, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:43 (four years ago) link

not just a montreal thing

flopson, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 19:06 (four years ago) link

It's definitely more common here than in the ROC but from a Latin European perspective it's a rare occurrence.

coco vide (pomenitul), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 19:07 (four years ago) link

I know this hospital pretty well from when my dad was in there 25 years ago.

http://www.toronto.com/news-story/9921011-coronavirus-outbreak-declared-at-mississauga-s-credit-valley-hospital/

clemenza, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 03:32 (four years ago) link

http://www.blogto.com/city/2020/04/list-essential-businesses-ontario-about-get-shorter/

Thermo summed up the original list perfectly on Facebook: "Congrats everyone in Ontario, your job is now an essential service. Now get back to work!"

(Again, I think Ford's been trying his best to do the right thing for at least the last three weeks.)

clemenza, Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:08 (four years ago) link

Mountainview seniors residence here in Gtown has several confirmed cases in a resident and staff members as of this evening. Very ominous after what happened in Bobcaygeon and other ones. Pretty sure I know people whose parents are in there.

Kim, Thursday, 2 April 2020 02:43 (four years ago) link

I thought for a second you meant the one the one by the high school--both my mom and grandmother lived there at different times a decade ago. I'm trying to picture the one you're talking about but can't.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 April 2020 03:30 (four years ago) link

Why is it so hard to find information about this in English:

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/nouvelle/1690442/justin-trudeau-pandemie-coronavirus-mesures-gouvernement-covid-19

I'm consistently baffled by the stark contrast between Radio Canada and the CBC in terms of reporting.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Thursday, 2 April 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link

Left my house this morning for the first time in a week to do a frozen food run (we only have the small fridge freezer.) Still a very surprising amount of people going about their business out there.

Kim, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link

I've been making delivery runs and Toronto transit is thankfully very sparse.

brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:06 (four years ago) link

Wow, I have noticed that as well but... people should be hearing about this issue. (Masks that were meant to be shipped to Canada being possibly diverted and sold to a higher bidder before leaving China, with reports that Americans have already done this wrt France by paying triple the price on the airport.)2xp

Sund4r, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:22 (four years ago) link

Disgusting but I’m not shocked. That kind of thing is why we should still be concerned about the rest of the supposedly secure supply chain.

Kim, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

Over 1,300 new cases today, by far the most yet--usual explanations apply, I'm sure, but still eye-opening. I had to get some water for the Keurig today, was glad to see the pharmacy was asking if I had a prescription, and since I didn't, they went and got it for me. Didn't come close to anyone, in and out in a minute.

clemenza, Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link

+900 cases over the past 24h in Quebec.

There are now 2,642 cases in Montreal alone.

Publius Covidius Naso (pomenitul), Thursday, 2 April 2020 17:51 (four years ago) link

If I understand this right, you are eligible for $2000/mo if you lost 100% of your uninsured employment/self-employed income but are not eligible for anything at all if you merely lost 80-90% of your self-employment income?: https://www.canada.ca/en/revenue-agency/services/benefits/apply-for-cerb-with-cra.html

Sund4r, Thursday, 2 April 2020 19:41 (four years ago) link

There's yellow caution tape around the playground equipment at the bottom of my street, but this won't be happening here.

http://www.blogto.com/city/2020/04/toronto-eaton-centre-barricades/

clemenza, Thursday, 2 April 2020 22:20 (four years ago) link

yeah they put the tape around the playground in the park next to my house a few weeks ago, and this week they taped up the exercise bars too

symsymsym, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link

never saw this story, it's hilarious: https://www.blogto.com/city/2019/06/toronto-illegal-weed-dispensaries-giant-cement-blocks/

symsymsym, Friday, 3 April 2020 00:34 (four years ago) link


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