US Politics, March 2020 — There’s a very good chance you’re not going to die.

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i tuned it for 2) above. the reporter was like "what do you want the governors to do?" and trump went on a rant about how he needed to be appreciated more. appreciate him, that's all. and then, realizing there were other people involved, stressed that the whole team should be appreciated. especially mike pence. so the reporter was like "so...do you want the governors to say something, or-" before being interrupted by Trump stressing that the governors should show appreciation for what trump had done. i mean his whole team. especially mike pence.

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 March 2020 22:46 (four years ago) link

somehow he dragged that out over about 3-4 minutes. crazy

Karl Malone, Friday, 27 March 2020 22:47 (four years ago) link

If you haven't seen it, I urge everyone to look at a clip I posted on the Trump thread yesterday. It's the best impression of him I've ever seen.

clemenza, Friday, 27 March 2020 22:49 (four years ago) link

he really is the most pitiful, pathetic fuck on the planet.

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 27 March 2020 22:57 (four years ago) link

i enjoyed that he called someone a cutie pie.

Yerac, Friday, 27 March 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link

fucking performance art.

Yerac, Friday, 27 March 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link

I am not a violent person but he really deserves being smashed repeatedly in the face with a sock filled with coins.

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 27 March 2020 23:01 (four years ago) link

I know these reporters don't have the power to do this but oh for someone to just shout out "You're a fucking pathetic sack of shit and everyone can see you for the loser you are" to his face.

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Friday, 27 March 2020 23:02 (four years ago) link

not sure what it's gonna take

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 27 March 2020 23:05 (four years ago) link

(xpost) That's absolutely what I want to happen, and I want it to happen on national TV. (And I'm not saying it'll make a difference.) I want a Joseph Welch moment when he is directly offensive to one of these reporters. "You might be the president, but you just can't talk to me that way--that's disgusting." Followed by walking out.

clemenza, Friday, 27 March 2020 23:13 (four years ago) link

With an added ‘you work for the American people, start acting like it’.

santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:16 (four years ago) link

I've started watching The West Wing in the midst of this so my addled brain sees that as something that can totally happen, probably just before a commercial break.

Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:23 (four years ago) link

you are fucked if you are

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:24 (four years ago) link

Joe Welch moment is impossible; he doesn't function like McCarthy

prez seal should read: Kiss My Ass If You Want to Live

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:44 (four years ago) link

Knowing him, he probably wants to stay as far away from any culpability/responsibility as possible. Much easier to point fingers and blame others as the crisis worsens.

Invoke O.P.P.

No mean feat. DaBaby (breastcrawl), Saturday, 28 March 2020 01:33 (four years ago) link

very normal thing to be spending time thinking about

Trump has told people he wants his signature to appear on the direct payment checks that will go out to many Americans. Normally, a civil servant—the disbursing officer for the payment center—would sign federal checks. ⁦@AndrewRestuccia⁩ scoop: https://t.co/7ZE1n8rceB

— Rebecca Ballhaus (@rebeccaballhaus) March 28, 2020

Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 01:42 (four years ago) link

The media landscape is obviously very different, and Trump has a degree of blind worship that McCarthy didn't have, but Trump seems to function exactly like McCarthy in so many ways. "I've heard, people say, some people are saying," etc., the bullying, the recklessness. Roy Cohn seemed to see McCarthy in Trump.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 March 2020 01:42 (four years ago) link

it would have zero effect on anything if it happened

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 28 March 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link

be hilarious when he misspells his own name on the checks

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link

ok im relatively fine w/ Pence

so lets do it

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link

it would have zero effect on anything if it happened

no, lots of people who don't pay attention to politics but get a $1200 cheque "directly from the president" are more likely to vote for him in a few months

be hilarious when he misspells his own name on the checks

if you can determine any letter from this to begin with, you should get a job as the country;s leading codebreaker

https://cms.qz.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/trump-signature-16x-9_colorcorrected.jpeg

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Saturday, 28 March 2020 02:51 (four years ago) link

Murt Dummy

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 02:53 (four years ago) link

that's what it looks like at first glance

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 02:54 (four years ago) link

fucking performance art.


its the blackest comedy anyone could write

johnny crunch, Saturday, 28 March 2020 03:08 (four years ago) link

it is again the "It's a Good Life" episode from The Twilight Zone, w/ the all-powerful child

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link

Aren't 90% of the $1200 'checks' going to be direct deposit anyway?

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 28 March 2020 06:28 (four years ago) link

sorry to dance on a grave here, but

remember all the arguments about trump a year ago, about the "damage" that he had caused, or more pointedly, that he had NOT caused, in the eyes of some? bush and nixon? all one could do, sheepishly, was point out that he was WHOLELY unequipped to deal with a crisis of any nature, that he was in fact enjoying a bizarre string of non-crisis, that he was lucky as he has always been lucky, a string of insanely good luck somehow balancing out the biggest dipsihit that has ever walked the earth and been remembered afterwards. this fucking guy, with 10 months left in his term, is going to wind up killing as many americans as the wars he faked injuries to get out of and the ones he pretended to oppose

Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 06:54 (four years ago) link

the way to look at a current president is not what he has already done, but for what you can expect them to do from the point on. that's why trump has always been a complete fucking nightmare from day one. he has no idea what is doing

Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 06:55 (four years ago) link

would that voter shame cascades down on his craven apologizers and the senate now gets flipped

after this horror a record of excusing Tump shoud be prima facie disqualifying

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link

Also good luck to you and your kids w/ standing trial in NYC under even the most favorable conditions or ever selling a single fucking thing with your stupid name on it

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 28 March 2020 13:22 (four years ago) link

i'd buy a copy of his tax returns

reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link

good morning!

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:36 (four years ago) link

It's a shame that the most competent people working for Asshole are so astoundingly good at keeping their boss in his job or out of jail, and not, say, at coordinating a pandemic response. Like, just saw this in the WaPo:

President Trump on Friday took a step to immediately try to curb oversight provisions in Congress’ $2 trillion coronavirus spending package, seeking to assert presidential authority over a new inspector general’s office.

It's remarkable that even in the midst of this miss, someone in his circle of malevolent goons is clearly, absolutely *on it.*

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link

Fox News poll

TRUMP JOB APPROVAL
48% 👍
51% 👎

GENERAL ELECTION
Biden 49%
Trump 40%

— Sahil Kapur (@sahilkapur) March 28, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link

A key takeaway from the Fox News poll: improvements in Trump's approval rating are having no real impact on voting intentions in trial heats with Biden, and haven't dented Biden's lead.

— Geoff Garin (@geoffgarin) March 27, 2020

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 28 March 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link

Just ceremonial, I know, means nothing, but definitively telling that Trump had no Democrats at the signing. CNN was comparing that to important bills from the past and the people who'd been invited.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link

Trump's signing statement is pointless. they carry no legal weight, they're just a signal of intent/interpretation, and we all know how it will play out. he'll try and violate the terms of the bill, he will get sued, and eventually either a federal judge will tell him to stop or say "hey this is ok". he'll probably lose on this one as it's actually written into the bill itself, not an obscure thing that requires Constitutional interpretation or case law. unless somehow he got SCOTUS to hear it and strike down parts of the Bill as unconstitutional.

it's how he does business, it's how he acts as President.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

signing statements do need to be outlawed though.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 15:53 (four years ago) link

He has stacked the courts and the language that Schumer and Dems negotiated is weak. No subpoena power for oversight panel, etc. I think he will get away with this:

Signing statement also says Trump will ignore requirements that congressional committees be consulted before reallocating funds

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:20 (four years ago) link

And just like that, the Congressional oversight provisions for the 1/2 TRILLION dollar Wall St slush fund (which were *already* too weak) are tossed away the day the bill is signed," said Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. "This is a frightening amount of public money to have given a corrupt admin w/ 0 accountability."

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:26 (four years ago) link

Not a Naomi Klein fan but this tweet/

One of the major profiteers from the last global financial crisis, whose was nicknamed "The Foreclosure King," is running the bailout for Trump. Sure he foreclosed on elderly people who were pennies behind in their payments, but I'm sure he has their best interests at heart.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:33 (four years ago) link

waiting for the Calm Down ILX faction to retract the "HuffPost story is bullshit" verdict; it appears it was not, and the slush fund will operate with toothless "oversight."

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:38 (four years ago) link

Trump has lost in federal court, even SCOTUS (census). The victories he tends to win are those where there is ambiguity to exploit in terms of the extent of Executive power. Usually his executive orders.

He is actually saying he'll ignore the law that is explicitly written, so it'll require federal courts deeming restrictions imposed on him as unconstitutional, or agreeing with his alternate interpretations.

He has stacked the courts, but though he's won a number of bullshit victories for his travel ban, deportation, and his wall, he's lost a lot in federal court too.

I ain't saying it's not going to happen, just to stop treating it like a foregone conclusion. And that's why, though I adore AOC, I would have hoped for a stronger statement here, saying something like "Nah bruh, we're going to enforce that law, soz", like Nancy did.

AOC's statement feels like a concession, like they won't challenge him. I know that's not true and that she will be a loud voice in that fight, just wish she'd used it here

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:40 (four years ago) link

HuffPo was bullshit. It said Mnuchin alone had the ability to direct the money and left out the oversight committee and inspector general.

That's empirically wrong - there's no debating it.

Had they said "Although there are protections in the bill, we think the Oversight Committee will be toothless and easily upended", then ok. But they said something was written into the bill and it quite definitively was not.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link

And I'm a little tired of these gotchas which require posters to be soothsayers

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:43 (four years ago) link

The language in the bill itself is too weak for Dems to get anything enforced by the courts. The oversight board doesn’t have subpoena power and even if it did, the Trump administration ignored Ukraine subpoenas, so why would this be any different.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link

Yes there’s an inspector general but Mnuchin is gonna do what he wants first, and then after the fact the oversight folks will raise concerns.

curmudgeon, Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:47 (four years ago) link

just waking up. long night of drinking, etc.

so wait - is the gist that trump added a bullshit provision in his signing statement so he can enrich his family and friends' corporations on his way out of office (rosy future lenses: because he's literally holding people hostage now, in states both blue and purple, micro-anthropomorphizing those states and people down to just their governor's name or even just their gender ("the michigan woman") and withholding obviously desperately needed aid), knowing that he get away with it while the signing statement's legality is tied up in courts (which may be packed with federalist society goons)?

good morning!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link

If we're just going to judge bills not by their content, but by how Trump is likely to react to them, legally speaking, then we aren't really judging the efficacy of bills at all, especially since Trump tries to flout the law on almost any non-GOP passed bill, regardless of how ironclad it is.

What if Trump states he will block States from granting federal unemployment?

What if Trump cancels the stimulus checks?

What if what if what if

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 28 March 2020 16:48 (four years ago) link


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