Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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Oh xp I don’t find either inept as such, I think they do as required

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:11 (four years ago) link

Chris Isaak did a far better job

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:18 (four years ago) link

isaak was in married to the mob before FWWM. it's not a part that requires much heavy-duty acting but he had some experience at least.

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:30 (four years ago) link

lol ok

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:32 (four years ago) link

listen, you learn a lot about acting when you're dressed up like a clown and get shot by dean stockwell

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:39 (four years ago) link

You’ve convinced me, taking him out of the non-actor category

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:43 (four years ago) link

You're referring to Wally Brando I assume
xp

change display name (Jordan), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:46 (four years ago) link

Isaak also acquitted hmself decently in Altman and Bertolucci films

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:54 (four years ago) link

seeing him in married to the mob reminded me that he had his own sitcom for like three seasons

na (NA), Friday, 27 March 2020 19:55 (four years ago) link

Also had a little role in Silence of the Lambs

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 27 March 2020 20:15 (four years ago) link

I thought Bowie's performance in FWWM was (at the time) and (upon rewatch) still is terrible... as bad as Isaak & Bell.

But Bowie actually became a decent actor, I thought he was excellent in The Prestige. For someone who doesn't follow his film career, when did he turn it around?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 27 March 2020 21:11 (four years ago) link

Chris Isaak is fine as an actor.

His sitcom was kind of ok.

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 March 2020 21:15 (four years ago) link

Bowie was very good as far back as Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence, imo. I think he just tried an approach in FWWM that didn't work. I seem to remember reading that performance was his idea rather than Lynch's...?

Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 27 March 2020 21:46 (four years ago) link

All three are good in twin peaks to be clear

felt jute gyte delete later (wins), Friday, 27 March 2020 21:50 (four years ago) link

I think Bowie had a limited range and FWWM was a little outside of that. But again, it kind of depends on whether you accept it as a Lynchism or not. I seem to remember that he allowed Lynch to use the FWWM footage for season 3 but not his voice because he was embarrassed by it.

Cow_Art, Friday, 27 March 2020 21:53 (four years ago) link

Bowie admitted he was a competen tamateur in Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence... used more as a model in that and the Roeg movie.

He's quite good in his single scene as Pilate in Last Temptation of Christ, I think.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 March 2020 23:15 (four years ago) link

he's doing some wild vaguely southern accent in FWWM which is terrible, always kind of got more of a campy effect from it than was perhaps intended (that scene is very creepy)

COVID and the Gang (jim in vancouver), Friday, 27 March 2020 23:19 (four years ago) link

I frankly... don't remember anything about the performance except when he "zoned"

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 March 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link

I liked him in The Hunger.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 28 March 2020 00:07 (four years ago) link

btw I was first exposed to Rob Knepper, the Mitchum brother opposite Jim Belushi, as a Shakespearean actor at the Public Theater in the mid '80s: as Lysander in A Midsummer Night's Dream (opp Elizabeth McGovern and F Murray Abraham) and Tybalt in Romeo and Juliet (opp Cynthia Nixon).

https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/aceaa570-246f-0131-2abe-58d385a7b928

Have seen little of his TV/film work.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 29 March 2020 17:29 (four years ago) link

tbqh a lot of the Roadhouse acts are shit

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 March 2020 03:07 (four years ago) link

A member of one of the bands who played at the roadhouse lives around the corner from me and our kids are friends so we're parent friends. Was over their house and she had a signed note of thanks from Lynch on her dresser. I thought that was really cool.

dan selzer, Monday, 30 March 2020 03:18 (four years ago) link

oo is she an Au Revoir Simone? because I really like them

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 30 March 2020 04:12 (four years ago) link

No slight to the performers, but my favorite thing on the Roadhouse stage was the volume knob.

The best in-show music bit was the pitched down American Woman.

Cow_Art, Monday, 30 March 2020 04:38 (four years ago) link

yes she is an au revoir simone

dan selzer, Monday, 30 March 2020 04:55 (four years ago) link

Nice. They played Lynch's wedding too, I believe.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 30 March 2020 05:32 (four years ago) link

i think i'm assuming correctly that david bowie in fwwm acted exactly how lynch wanted him to.

billstevejim, Monday, 30 March 2020 06:09 (four years ago) link

He probably wouldn’t have asked for his voice to be replaced in S3 if he felt he’d given Lynch exactly the performance Lynch wanted.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 30 March 2020 06:24 (four years ago) link

Well, that may be because there were a bunch more Philip Jefferies lines in the show and he didn’t feel up to recording them / had other fish to fry

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 30 March 2020 07:47 (four years ago) link

nah, he specifically asked to have his voice replaced in the FWWM footage - he didn't know at the time he declined to appear on-camera that Lynch would instead sculpt a giant talking steam boiler to replace him.

Lynch still thought his performance was great, but didn't get to tell Bowie that:

I think someone must have made him feel bad about his Louisiana accent in Fire Walk With Me, but I think it’s so beautiful. He wanted to have it done by a legitimate actor from Louisiana, so that’s what we had to do.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 30 March 2020 08:39 (four years ago) link

Timely snippet from the same interview:

How did you decide to use Polish composer Krzysztof Penderecki’s “Threnody for the Victims of Hiroshima” in the nuclear explosion scene in “Part 8”? Did you always have that music in mind for that scene?

I was going to experiment with Angelo but that thing was, in my mind, made to order. I did chop it up a lot so that I could get different sections for the visuals, but it was just meant to be.

How did you feel watching that scene set to that music?

It felt real good. The problem is that, in the studio, we played it in the mix really loud, so it would be more like you’d hear it in a theater. Then the heartache comes when you have to dial it back for television, because they have these restrictions as to how loud these things can be and how long they can be loud for; many different rules, it’s really not so great. It’s like when you know what it can be and then you have to suffer that [dilution], and people see it on their computer or even, my god, on their phone—it’s like a nightmare. There’s so much fucking power in that scene, and in this world people would love to hear what’s there, but the machines [which we watch things through] aren’t there any more. It’s got to be full range and full loud.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Monday, 30 March 2020 09:03 (four years ago) link

I like that Wild West song a lot: NIN was not my bag. Whether I liked the songs or not, the scenes were a great tension release and wind down.

Bowie is in FWIW so briefly he doesn’t really have time to register as bad. He’s fine. Good, even! It’s very brief. Terrific scene, in no way made worse by Bowie.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 30 March 2020 10:44 (four years ago) link

Twin Peaks: For What It's Worth

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 March 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link

In the ep 14 scene w/ Andy and the Giant/Fireman, my first thought was "Barney Fife and Lurch, together again."

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 30 March 2020 11:36 (four years ago) link

i was not aware of this short!

From the moment David Lynch started making films, he used Krzysztof Penderecki's compositions to score them.

The first time was in 1967 for the 2-minute short “Absurd Encounter with Fear” starring Jack Fisk and Peggy Reavey. Watch it here: https://t.co/agj7clBBtt

— Twin Peaks 🏔️ ◀- 6 feet -▶🏔️ (@ThatsOurWaldo) March 31, 2020

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 00:37 (four years ago) link

Absurd Encounter with Fear, kinda sums him up right?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 00:41 (four years ago) link

yeah, in some important ways it was all there at the beginning!

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 00:43 (four years ago) link

that short has definitely not lost its power.

current (jed_), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:04 (four years ago) link

I watched s3e8 and a bunch of his shorts the other night. I had not seen these since about 14-15 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnYJ6gjZOCc&list=PLAqDCLWD9bNNz6gluJN583d_gbCXIjB4A&index=11&t=0s

billstevejim, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link

aah well i was trying to post the playlist but here's the short i was hoping to embed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnYJ6gjZOCc

billstevejim, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

back to alleged thread topic

wtf Cockney green-gloved YouTube star

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 22:08 (four years ago) link

I have a theory about him that I will save until you get through the rest of the series, but yeah, he is a whole lot of wtf.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 22:33 (four years ago) link

Green glove was originally going to be worn by Jack Nance, but he up and died.

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 22:37 (four years ago) link

oh man :( that would have been perfect.

current (jed_), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 23:57 (four years ago) link

I dunno, it’s so goofily discordant for me that I think I prefer it on this complete sore-thumb character. Though obv we’ve no idea what 2017’s Pete would be like.

Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:18 (four years ago) link

had no idea Gordon Cole's name was a Sunset Blvd ref

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 13:33 (four years ago) link

omg you're so close

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link

surprised that one went past Morbz tbh

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link

I don't think he's even a character that appears onscreen in SB, fer chrissake.

brb gonna stick a fork in the socket

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link

Viewing complete.

Final two eps had two of the worst moments of the series, ie (17) fucking Freddy punching BOB's volleyball and (18) the ludicrous Diane-Cooper sex scene.

I did like the resolution, which I interpret as... get ready...

You can't save anybody.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 4 April 2020 03:15 (four years ago) link


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