those Bernie objections happened this afternoon. the four dumb Senators got their amendment, the vote will probably fail, and supposedly they're gonna finally take the damn floor vote after that tonight.
my mom got so worked up she called me lol
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 March 2020 03:29 (four years ago) link
Amendment to bill failed as expected, 48-48
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 March 2020 03:55 (four years ago) link
Bill passed, 96-0. Bernie's unemployment stayed in untouched.
Off to the House.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 March 2020 04:10 (four years ago) link
David Dayen at American Prospect:
the oversight is largely after the fact, without subpoena power, and mainly reduced to writing reports. How exactly do you expect a small, underfunded panel to find fraud in a $4.25 trillion lending facility! Especially when the current administration explicitly believes they are not required to turn over anything to Congress....
there’s apparently only a buyback ban for the term of the loan. The money cannon can therefore go to executive compensation or mergers or wholesale purchases of distressed businesses or whatever other financial engineering the accounting department can muster. And once the company returns to health, it can leak out cash to investors (and during the loan too, in dividends). There’s no requirement to keep workers hired; in fact, the (necessary) provision to boost unemployment insurance for four months to 100 percent of median salary (including furloughed workers, gig workers and freelancers) means that these companies can fire with relative impunity.
the Federal Reserve, which can transfer money from the cash cannon with ease, runs the corporate bailout, the hapless Small Business Administration will deal with the small businesses; they have been endlessly criticized for delays on their couple billion in loan guarantee programs, let alone $300 billion. The monopolists get concierge service, the small businesses get to take a number. And the result will almost certainly be massive concentration of power.
https://prospect.org/coronavirus/unsanitized-bailouts-tradition-unlike-any-other/#.Xnv2ua__Ktw.twitter
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 March 2020 04:54 (four years ago) link
How long before the effects of the depression are widely felt.& can the rich actually feel like they can secede from the rest of society. Or do they need somebody to be richer than.
Difficult to have a revolution and keep social distancing intact.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 26 March 2020 08:26 (four years ago) link
Oh Schumer. I’m with those like David Dayen and Zach Carter decrying the deal, but I see some claiming this is the best we can get. Ugh
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 March 2020 12:34 (four years ago) link
Charles Pierce thinks it’s the best that can be done but I see David Atkins , blogger , disagreeing with him on twitter
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 March 2020 12:59 (four years ago) link
Meanwhile Barr is reopening 2 Immigration courts including 1 in Seattle on March 30, and Trump’s EPA is getting ready to weaken EPA rules on coal ash and mercury. Turrible
― curmudgeon, Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:02 (four years ago) link
Yes, what we need now is looser restrictions on mercury
― love will keep us apart (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link
where has Obama been through all this? I know he doesn't have to be out there but he's still the most popular figure in the party and the presumptive nominee is gonna just sleep through it
― frogbs, Thursday, 26 March 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link
he's being careful as per usual
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 26 March 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
I had the same question; what else, he's tweeting about it. Even though I think the argument that people make about Biden--he doesn't hold office, it's not his place, etc.--can more legitimately be applied to Obama as an ex-president, I still find it a weak one.
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:07 (four years ago) link
Having said that, something that came up with Trump the other day--has he consulted/enlisted any ex-presidents?--was even worse, I'd say: no, of course not.
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:09 (four years ago) link
the ghost of Andrew Jackson iirc
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:09 (four years ago) link
Clinton. Bush, and Obama hate his guts and the feeling's mutual.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link
Right. He hasn't, and even it the thought crossed his mind--which it didn't--he couldn't and wouldn't.
― clemenza, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link
Why need those Scrubs when he's got every dictator on speed dial?
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link
this seems most accurate. he has probably spent more time looking at the painting of jackson next to his desk, having an imaginary conversation about how they're both the best presidents, than actual conversations with recent living presidents
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:19 (four years ago) link
what kind of fucking prick puts a painting of andrew jackson next to their desk? still can't get over that, after all these years
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link
I like it bc there is absolutely no fucking way he knew a single thing about Jackson until guys like Bannon got in his ear
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link
I'm sure he's seen a $20 bill in his life.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link
(Yoda voice) there is another (/Yoda voice)
Quick, somebody ask Carter how he feels about Trump
― love will keep us apart (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
I omitted Carter on purpose; as usual he's his own man.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:29 (four years ago) link
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:35 (four years ago) link
yeah, but how many people did benjamin franklin, perhaps our nation's finest president of all, kill? gotta go for jackson
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:37 (four years ago) link
I'd urge a campaign to try and get Trump talking about President Franklin but after a while watching someone proudly demonstrate their immense stupidity just becomes sad.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link
I wonder, if someone asked Asshole what his job was as president, what he would say.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link
to issue commands
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:43 (four years ago) link
it begins
The Washington Post reports:
Seattle NPR member station KUOW has issued a statement to explain its editorial decision to refrain from broadcasting live daily briefings hosted by President Trump and including members of the White House coronavirus task force.
“After airing the White House briefings live for two weeks, a pattern of false information and exaggeration increasingly had many at KUOW questioning whether these briefings were in the best service of our mission — to create and serve a more informed public,” notes the statement, posted Wednesday afternoon.
“Of even greater concern was the potential impact of false information on the health and safety of our community.” KUOW provided three examples of bogus information stemming from the briefings. All of them — surprise — came from President Trump.
famed liberal media stalwart NPR
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:45 (four years ago) link
"someone's funding gonna get cut""mr pres it's already 0 except grants""cut those, then bill them then sue them!"
― blather rinse repeat 2020 (Hunt3r), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:51 (four years ago) link
guy didn’t even have to start a war to get people killed
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link
sad lol
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 26 March 2020 16:04 (four years ago) link
NPR stations get almost no funding from the government btw
― akm, Thursday, 26 March 2020 16:11 (four years ago) link
as noted above
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 March 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link
lol good ol' Chuck
Happy bday @SpeakerPelosi We often disagree but I admire your commitment 2public service &willingness to wrk w me on issues like USMCA+lowering Rx drug prices Cooperation btwn us is what itll take to get drug prices lowered Working 2gether across party lines is esp important now— ChuckGrassley (@ChuckGrassley) March 26, 2020
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 March 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link
I'm still back on Grassley's weirdly horny Dairy Queen tweet
― DJP, Thursday, 26 March 2020 17:05 (four years ago) link
has he consulted/enlisted any ex-presidents?--was even worse, I'd say: no, of course not.
He's consulting Jared, and Jared is consulting Facebook randos.
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link
ex presidents all a bunch of losers iirc
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 26 March 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link
Finally, a $350 billion dollar pool of “forgivable loans” will be managed by the Small Business Association’s 7(a) loan program, which is the agency’s primary lending mechanism and is used to dealing with roughly $25-30 million in loans per year, making this a monumental task for the organization.
wow, seems like at least one federal agency will be hiring, holy shit.
also, i never realized that small businesses are defined like this:
The definition of a small business is also highly suspect. It bizarrely categorizes companies by employees at specific locations, so if you have less than 500 employees at specific location, but in total have 100 locations and 500,000 employees, you are a small business. Your favorite coffee shop could be competing with Starbucks for funds.
is that specific to this legislation, or is that the general def of "small business"??
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 19:05 (four years ago) link
Hope not. I need my buddy to get funds for his cat cafe
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 March 2020 19:27 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/e6jD0tL.jpg
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 19:58 (four years ago) link
I threw that out without reading it
― silby, Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:01 (four years ago) link
president trump's coronavirus
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link
xp it's almost like it's a bad idea to send politically branded public health recommendations
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:03 (four years ago) link
although i guess the trump administration was just like "oh, so the enemies of trump will be less likely to read it? good."
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:09 (four years ago) link
― ooga booga-ing for the bourgeoisie (voodoo chili), Thursday, March 26, 2020 4:03 PM bookmarkflaglink
Omg he infected the envelope?
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:10 (four years ago) link
but this holiday season...the president of the united states has infected the envelope
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:14 (four years ago) link
BURIED IN THE FINE PRINT: On page 203 of the stimulus bill passed late last night, there's a tax tweak that could save wealthy real estate investors $170 BILLION over 10 years.@JesseDrucker shines a spotlight on the little-noticed provision. https://t.co/8A7hiWUjpL— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) March 26, 2020
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:29 (four years ago) link
Have been reading about fears of what you get through the post for that reason over today.&including the irish guidelines booklet when that appears.Though just thinking it might be something to keep a copy of the t booklet for checking your disbelief in years to come. Only it may not be clean, so may be dodgy.
― Stevolende, Thursday, 26 March 2020 20:30 (four years ago) link