I disagree with posts above about weakness/unmotivated nature of plotting. I think it's pretty obvious that this is Kim doubling down in a desperate attempt to get Jimmy to reform. The Mesa Verde plot is there to illuminate their relationship, and to show how both of them respond to escalating stakes with more and more addictive behaviors. Not unlike Adam Sandler in UNCUT GEMS. She has just as bad a gambling problem as he does, in fact he brings it out of her and makes it worse. In this sense you need the Mesa Verde to move Kim inexorably down her trajectory. She's not running in circles at all.
― drew in baltimore, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:35 (four years ago) link
The two posts this morning did give me pause about the latest episode--"Yeah, they sure did buckle to such a slapdash, borderline ridiculous threat." I think I just mostly check credulity at the door with not just this show but other TV shows I enjoy. (I like Ozark, which is preposterous.) There was the roadside lineup for cell phones and legal advice earlier...I just go with it.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 17:41 (four years ago) link
i thought they dubbed Seehorn's voice as the mother.
― akm, Thursday, 26 March 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link
I'm re-watching from the start so not keeping up with this thread. Just up to the s4 episode where they make all the provisions for the German lads to be isolated inside for 8-10 months. Such foresight!
― kinder, Thursday, 26 March 2020 22:01 (four years ago) link
i watched last week’s episode and man that ending threw me for a loop but after some reflection i think drew is otm this is not kim being a ditz and oh he’s terrible i love him this her doing what they both do so well & pivoting on the spot with a new planie he fucking played me in public to win fuck him we’re done ohhhhhh no even better lets up the ante & see who flinches when we put it all on the line & let it ride (my gambling knowledge is not great so forgive if i am mixing terms) this is like two gambling addicts in love with each other as much as the game to the point now where the relationship is the gamethis ending for them is gonna suuuuuck
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 30 March 2020 21:20 (three years ago) link
good episode, was missing Saul's Nathan For You-type schemes this season. seemed a bit ~too~ obvious that this was where they'd break up (as hinted by the episode title obviously) so I liked that bait and switch, like all this show's cliffhanger endings who knows what that's all about. would love to see Kim pull one over on ol' Jimmy somehow
been digging this season but watching it with such a long layoff is kind of difficult, every character has some sort of dual loyalty and there were so many plots I forgot the details of (like Nacho poisoning Hector). doesn't help that every actor is a decade older than they were when Breaking Bad was going, screws with my head sometimes. Mike is clearly an "old man" in the BCS universe, so is he supposed to be like 80 when BB rolls around? or is this one of those things we aren't supposed to think about
― frogbs, Monday, 30 March 2020 22:02 (three years ago) link
Huell!
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link
Lydia!
Another good episode. That justice at the beginning ought to get his own show. Mike reading The Little Prince with his granddaughter resting her head on him was a beautiful image.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 02:11 (three years ago) link
Gus's grease fire setup was great
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:57 (three years ago) link
Don't read this if you're not up to date.
Two questions: 1) Was Nacho with Gus? I thought he was, but Gus got back in his car alone; 2) When Jimmy tells Huell the marriage is just for legal protection, he's just making that up right? I'm pretty sure the answer is yes, but you never know with Jimmy.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:03 (three years ago) link
I assumed they came in separate cars (1)
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:05 (three years ago) link
re: Jimmy-Huell, that seemed to me like a partial truth Jimmy amplified in order to get him to back off re: ceremony trappings
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:07 (three years ago) link
Yeah, that's actually what I thought: that Jimmy was lying but voicing something partly true that he hadn't even consciously formulated himself yet.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:13 (three years ago) link
Interrupting sex with "There's something I don't want to tell you, so that must mean I should" was great.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:14 (three years ago) link
Giancarlo Esposito should have a spinoff Marie Kondo-style lifestyle show in character, all about the benefits of being ott deliberate and meticulous in even the most mundane tasks
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:18 (three years ago) link
lie, "how to set your pen down on a dresser"
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:19 (three years ago) link
like
I'm eating healthy these days--those curly fries looked really good.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 14:24 (three years ago) link
That madrigal guy (Peter) is the one who zaps himself in bb yes? He had good snack-eating form in that too
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:38 (three years ago) link
ok, refresher...what happens to him?
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:39 (three years ago) link
all of the other madrigal group restaurants were pretty awesome
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:40 (three years ago) link
Yeah I loved Luftwaffle especially.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
That was the saddest fucking wedding. xp after gus dies and everything’s exposed, the cops come for that guy who’s shown mechanically trying disgusting-looking dips, but he goes into the toilet and kills himself with a defibrillator
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
right!
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:41 (three years ago) link
dunking first taste of new product in ketchup not good for evaluative purposes imo
someone deserves an award for this matter of fact wiki version
In Hannover, Germany, when the police arrive to question him about his relationship with Gus Fring, Peter commits suicide by sticking one end of an automated external defibrillator in his mouth and the other over his heart. The electric current flows, and Schuler slumps onto the floor of the bathroom, dead. His death then triggers the automatic flush function on the toilet.
assuming this list of known restaurant chains is correct:Los Pollos Hermanos, Stingin' Rays, Luftwaffle, Whiskerstay's, Haau Chuen Wok, Burger Matic, Polmieri Pizza
I did a double take at Luftwaffle
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:42 (three years ago) link
seated nexy to Gus was a rep from another taco chain, too
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:44 (three years ago) link
another?
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:45 (three years ago) link
no—a Mexican chain, was thinking Hermanos was Mexican food
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:46 (three years ago) link
though I guess technically it is
Together, the "chicken brothers" made a name for themselves and their small-town eatery by using authentic flavors and spices to make the tastiest chicken south of the border.
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:48 (three years ago) link
hmm yeah if it's slow-roasted chicken they advertise and they just now added the fries, what was making the fryers dirty? call the plot hole police!
did anyone else laugh at Gus inspecting the fryer basket before setting it aside, despite the fact he was about to blow up the place?
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:51 (three years ago) link
Saul’s rant at the end is an even more delusional “I am the one who knocks” (but sadder to see because jimmy is more likeable and his petty megalomania doesn’t just come from wounded pride, failure and resentment)
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:52 (three years ago) link
xp that was excellent
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 15:53 (three years ago) link
Spice Curls, put some respect on their name
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:36 (three years ago) link
Gus's beaming pride when he said the name was funny.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:50 (three years ago) link
yes, totally performing "normie" for the other owners
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:52 (three years ago) link
same tone he used when doing charitable things for the community in BB
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 16:57 (three years ago) link
Yeah - I like the implication that he is genuinely proud of his spice curls, and sincerely sees worth in his community-building, BUT also has absolute contempt for displays of pride, AND cares even more about how well they cover for his criminal enterprises.
So he's learnt a performance of pride which connects with other people who care mainly about such things, and that also helpfully projects him as a simp to people who don't.
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 17:29 (three years ago) link
The way gus is filmed and portrayed in this series is ridic, somewhere between a terminator and Satan
― Microbes oft teem (wins), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 17:40 (three years ago) link
of course he insisted on being the one to blow up his own restaurant so that he'd know it was competently done
― mh, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 17:45 (three years ago) link
...and Mr C.
cleaning's good, cleaning's goodcleaning your grill tray's good
― Dollarmite Is My Name (sic), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 17:56 (three years ago) link
As my wife commented when Gus was kneeling in front of Peter to calm him, "he is terrifying and reassuring all in equal measures".
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:09 (three years ago) link
Odenkirk is great, I love the guy, but he’s a comedian, not an actor
― calstars, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:33 (three years ago) link
kind of apt for someone playing a con man trying to be a lawyer
― mh, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:42 (three years ago) link
I have accepted that there's a lot of pantomiming and telegraphing in Odenkirk's acting. It's most glaring in one-on-one scenes with Kim, when he's going for earnest.
But most of the time he compensates for that with charisma—he's still compelling to watch!—and yeah the fact that he's playing someone whose whole m.o. is a false front helps too.
― Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:50 (three years ago) link
(xpost) Same applied to his agent Stevie Grant in Larry Sanders, the ultimate con man. Acting or not, I think he's great in both, maybe even more so in Larry Sanders.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 00:59 (three years ago) link
Kim’s comedic turn imitating Kevin in S5 e5 is pure gold.
― calstars, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 02:00 (three years ago) link
I loved that rant to Howard at the end; it’s why I have always loved Odenkirk, he’s so good at being inappropriately angry plus: it’s ~that~ exact potion of boiling hubristic rage mixed w deep entitlement & bone-deep insecurity that will permanently turn Jimmy into Saul.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 06:21 (three years ago) link
Definitely
― paolo, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 07:48 (three years ago) link
I liked when the judge asked if these are the witnesses and Huell went 'mmmmhmmmmmmm'