Things You Just Don't Care About

camaraderie very otm about pentathlon

Yeah PP I'm like, "you guys know there are already like a billion filmed musical performances out there"

If I wanted to watch people play guitars into a poor-quality video camera I would have already been doing that last month

But I probably will do some because all my musical friends are doing it and I am a sheep baa baa

Yeah, it's just a weird response. I mean, I get why people are doing it because people are scrambling to make lemonade form lemons, and good on them for doing so, but it's not like we're exactly starved for content. I mean, we can watch multi-camera angle videos of Miles Davis, Willie Nelson, Black Flag, and the Grateful Dead in their prime, any time we want. Why would I want to watch my friends playing ukuleles in front of a webcam?

brb leaving a scathing review on this travesty: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH-ycguHLBU

Why would I want to watch my friends playing ukuleles in front of a webcam?

― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:36 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Scathing attack on beloved ilxor Neanderthal

Few things are as satisfying as watching overhyped British athletes falling flat on their arses, sometimes literally, in Olympic finals - the relays are especially delicious.

I mean, we can watch multi-camera angle videos of Miles Davis, Willie Nelson, Black Flag, and the Grateful Dead in their prime, any time we want. Why would I want to watch my friends playing ukuleles in front of a webcam?

Couldn't you logically extend this argument to any musical creation? "I can listen to In a Silent Way and Bernstein's recording of Beethoven 5. Why should I listen to some noodlers on Bandcamp (or overproduced teenagers on the radio etc)?" People still go out to see live music in real time, or at least they were doing so; what other substitute is there rn? There are definitely some shit livestreams going on (although probably no less shit than what you'd find at a million open mics) but also really good artists doing this.

I get that for at some folks it's a path to a personal connection. Neanderthal is, indeed, a beloved ilxor, and I enjoyed his video!

I get the appeal of seeing my bandmates and local scene friends because I have personal connections with them.

Or a truly beloved artist doing something special and/or not the usual as a "hang in there" gesture, sure.

But a lot of the current new content is... not those

T/F: You have been the person in the corner of the party with a guitar

fewer irl parties = more e-parties

i have a 1950s book abt "the state of music now" which at one point argues that the wide availability of of high-quality high-fidelity professional classical music on LP means that the desire for amateur performance of every kind will seoon die (implied: this will be a bad thing, bcz it cuts music off from its needful roots = ppl who don't yet know how to make it properly trying it out in public)

in fact very nearly the exact opposite happened = an upsurge on a world-historical scale of self-taught musicians playing music of the quality they aspired to and enjoyed, at one another (it's called rock music)

https://i.imgur.com/Sp54ACv.png

I'd rather watch Ben Folds on Chatterbate than this.

Britney Spears reposting a meme with "re-destribute (sic) wealth" buried in the middle of it.

YMP, I think the deal is that a lot of the current content is other people's bandmates and friends, except that it's happening on platforms you have access to instead of homes and bars you wouldn't visit otherwise. Just a matter of knowing what to ignore, probably.

For the record, I enjoyed Neanderthal's video! Dude can sing.

Which thread was it on?

basically some of this stuff is friends cheering each other up and some of it is self-promoters gonna self-promote and nobody makes you watch any of it so let a thousand terrible ukulele gigs bloom, i can ignore them

tbf Neaderthal's uke is twee-free

Neanderthal counts as friends!

To sum up, I dont care whether a musician I wouldn't listen to anyway plays an online gig I won't listen to.

seems axiomatic really

the guys who just bust out and start playing weezer on acoustic guitars at parties are of course awful and they’re still awful when they preen on the internet

Neanderthal rules tho, obv <3

there was a special awful feeling when hearing a group of young men singing "say it ain't so" at the top of their lungs in the next room. at least, there was back when i was a younger man. not sure if that still happens. and i used to love that song!

Guys who turn up to house parties with a guitar and start playing wonderwall obviously need to be jailed indefinitely

I'm only ever around men in a group at work, and they mostly aren't young.

I love the NHS as much as the next britisher but 'clap for carers'? c'mon lads

fucking joke.

i have a 1950s book abt "the state of music now" which at one point argues that the wide availability of of high-quality high-fidelity professional classical music on LP means that the desire for amateur performance of every kind will seoon die (implied: this will be a bad thing, bcz it cuts music off from its needful roots = ppl who don't yet know how to make it properly trying it out in public)

in fact very nearly the exact opposite happened = an upsurge on a world-historical scale of self-taught musicians playing music of the quality they aspired to and enjoyed, at one another (it's called rock music)

― mark s, Wednesday, March 25, 2020 3:14 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

What is the name of this book? I want it.

PE with joe wicks? fuck off

tbh I think Flavor Flav is back in the fold

I love the NHS as much as the next britisher but 'clap for carers'? c'mon lads

Worse things than the clap right now I'd imagine.

the slow clap, for sure

Mr. Snrub it is called

THE NEW MUSICAL COMPANION, being the twenty-second edition of The Musical Companion (revised & brought completely up-to-date, 1957), edited by A. L. Bacharach (VICTOR GOLLANCZ LTD, LONDON)

the musical companion was first published in 1934, with new edition annually: 1957 being the year of revision and updating, hence "new". almost all of it is a detailed and fairly orthodox guide to classical music (how a sonata works, who glazunov was etc, orchestras past and future -- it has a page on theremins etc -- and stockhausen gets a one line mention). the section on the effects of radio and gramophone is just a page long right after the mention of stockhausen, but it's simply expressed and exposed by its position and hence very memorable.

there's also a long and (to me) very interesting essay at the end by ERIC BLOM (once upon a time a famous critic, editor of Grove etc) about (classical) performance and (classical) listening, which also briefly discusses how the gramophone is changing things. blom doesn't write as if he knows any other kinds of music exist really (also pp 705-736 have been bound in upside down lol).

Every single thing Dylan has done since 'Desire'

otm

kelp!

(i just don't care abt it)

kelp me if you can i'm reddish brown

lol nice

Whatever the fuck Tiger King is

2nded

i saw some of it. it just seems sad and gross and exploitative on all fronts.

Black pepper. Chilies, hot peppers, sweet peppers (green, red, yellow) - sure. But ground black pepper? I barely use any of it when I'm cooking, and never add it to anything after. It just makes me sneeze or gets caught in my throat and doesn't make anything I cook taste better. And when they offer it on salads at restaurants? Why? Practically useless compared to salt.

(Also, co-sign on Tiger King. I think I get the idea based on a single screen shot and title and don't need more.)

it seems that you do care about black pepper! you just don't like it

Hmm, fair point.

way to ruin the entire thread KARL

black pepper sauce is one of the best sauces tho

don't care!

;) no, jk, i do care, i do

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i love black pepper but that should probly go on the I Love Black Pepper board

xxpost You mean like in Szechuan cooking? I don't mind Szechuan peppercorns, I guess.