is New York City dead?

btw bdb *might* opt to close the playgrounds by the end of the week. to make up for the lost public space, he *might* then opt to close exactly two streets per borough to traffic

We ordered a box from some place called grateful produce and it was amazing. I also found a market on seamless and got some snacks and like 3lbs of cold cuts. Check seamless there’s always some delis that have staples.

what about instacart

I take it Mimi's Hummus is still doing delivery

https://gothamist.com/news/state-lawmakers-pushing-coronavirus-rent-cancellation-say-cuomo-mia

instacart is like a five-day wait

that's acceptable, we are just needing to reup on flour, yogurt, eggs, that kind of stuff

hopefully the flour situaton is not similar to the UK's!

get that stuff from delis on seamless.

I ordered a big meal from Dawas last night, a favorite place of ours in Woodside. Did it via credit card and wasn't happy that when the guy came he made me sign the CC. I never understand when that's needed. I tipped the delivery guy 20 bucks.

morbs (and other nycers), freshdirect offers slots a day before for delivery pass members; $40 for a 6 month pass that lets you hold Tuesday to Thursday deliveries seems worth it

I just did an Instacart for next Monday

can get by til then

Very difficult to say if, in not even considering fleeing the overcrowded plague hub where I live, I am presently being "cool-headed in a time of crisis" or merely "stupid."

— 𝖇𝖎𝖌 𝖇𝖆𝖑𝖑𝖔𝖔𝖓 𝖆𝖉𝖛𝖊𝖓𝖙𝖚𝖗𝖊 (@NickPinkerton) March 22, 2020

same

https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2019/s8125

little "support" yea/nay button on the right side

my sister just texted me to say "ARE YOU OKAY? TERRIBLE NEWS OUT OF NYC!" and when i asked what she meant she said "28% POSITIVE TESTING RATE IS TERRIBLE" and i got to be like um, yeah, it's a pandemic; gonna go jogging.

I saw a few alarmist tweets about people leaving NYC? What would be the benefit to fleeing, if any?

We’re seeing a lot of flight from the city (especially among those who can afford to go to, say, the Hamptons). I’m not sure what the benefit is, perhaps it’s largely psychological. We’ve seen it in this pandemic, and throughout history. It happened in the medieval plagues, in the plagues in London, as well as many others. People see infection around them, and hope to escape it by fleeing. Instead, they may already be infected and are just bringing it to another place, perhaps even introducing it there.

If, as the tweets you refer to suggest, you can really leave without coming in contact with anyone outside your household and stay inside for 2 weeks, at least you’re not infecting anyone else and that’s an ethical approach. Unfortunately, not everyone will be so scrupulous, so the virus is very likely circulating there anyway. The end result: you’ll probably still be keeping to yourself, but perhaps in nicer surroundings.

However, if I thought I might get sick, I’d rather be somewhere near a good hospital.

Asking "what would be the benefit??!" seems facile? Uh in the country I can have a whole house instead of a couple of rooms, laundry on site, a yard we can go in, a garden where I grow food to eat, two bathrooms (lol), and be with my partner who lives alone when I'm not there, and if he gets ill, would be alone in his house and no one would be able to get to him.

I have largely been up here since around Mar 4 or 5 with only brief visits to the city where I used gloves + wiped down everything + stayed in as much as poss w my whole building doing the same. It's possible I was exposed in those moments but in any case we're both asymptomatic still.

I guess those aren't the reasons rich ppl are "fleeing" tho cause they have the all the luxuries wherever they are.

everyone's situation is different, io, you don't have to explain yourself.

(except that growing yr own food stuff, my god, do you know what century it is? I know, the 11th)

I mean if I fled to my sister's I'd have to take transit for 3 hours. just no way.

Specifically the fresh veg are the thing that we'll be lacking if we can't go to the store at all. We have staples for a long time but it will help to have lettuce & radishes & herbs on hand soon.

I fled with gf to her parents house in the jersey burbs. I expect we'll be here at least a month, probably more though. I have multiple friends in the city who are moderately sick, one degree away from someone who's on oxygen in a hospital.

However, if I thought I might get sick, I’d rather be somewhere near a good hospital.

my driving motivation to flee was 'if I get this I don't want to be on a bed in the javits center'.

Waiting at least a week or so more till we’ve been quarantined we’ll over two weeks and wives parents are the same then maybe going to their house in the jersey burbs. A yard and help with the three year old a big reason, plentiful fridge space. Etc.

they need to figure out health insurance between states.

Checked into leasing a car as a first step to possible fleeing; learned that ny and nj car dealers are among the businesses ordered to be closed (except for repair depts)

someone should start an uber for fleeing the city

I can 100% understand not wanting to fly, Jon, but could you? The few flights that are going appear to be very cheap right now

assuming you're trying to get to minnesota

I'd come get you but it's a bit of a hike

I meant fly as in fly you fools, fly from here
The only conveyance I would consider would be a car
We were just thinking about trying to find some cheap ass month to month thing out of town, and a car is prerequisite to that
Anyway

Oh wait I misread you you were asking if I WOULD fly lol
Gotta bring the 60 lb puppy so plane wouldn’t work

NYT:

All of the city’s more than 1,800 intensive-care beds are expected to be full by Friday, according to an official briefing obtained by The Times. A 1,000-bed hospital ship is not scheduled to arrive until mid-April, but makeshift facilities at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center could be ready in a week.

hmm yeah, sneaking a puppy that size onto the plane would be tricky

It's hard to pick out the most brutal detail from this overview of Bill de Blasio's horrible March, so I'm just going to go with ... this entire paragraph.https://t.co/t06jHoz8Od pic.twitter.com/KqzEbzXkwU

— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) March 27, 2020

Too many politicians seem to think their only job is to soothe idiots.

that seems to win elections

New York state on Friday recorded an additional 134 coronavirus deaths, the largest number to date in a 24-hour-period.

As of Friday, 519 people have died statewide. New York state now has 44,635 confirmed cases of COVID-19, an increase of 7,377 overnight.

Speaking from the Javits Center in Manhattan, Governor Cuomo said the news was not unexpected. There are now some coronavirus patients in New York who have spent a month on ventilators.

"The longer you are on a ventilator, the less likely you are going to come off that ventilator," Cuomo said.

Of the total people who have tested positive, 1,583 are in intensive care units, which are hospital beds equipped with ventilators.

The state is aiming to raise the total hospital bed capacity from 53,000 to 140,000. During his press conference at the Javits Center on Friday, Cuomo thanked the team comprised of FEMA, the Army Corps of Engineers and the National Guard that have been retrofitting the convention center into four field hospitals with 1,000 beds. The beds will be used to free up space at existing New York City hospitals.

https://gothamist.com/news/coronavirus-updates-de-blasio-says-half-new-yorkers-will-become-infected-covid-19

cuomo and deblasio should've known better earlier. They aren't the liquidized walnut level of Trump but they waited too long.

xps let's not forget the mayorss own trip to the Y for a workout hours after advising against such outings

#BREAKING: We just won the release of 106 incarcerated clients - New Yorkers especially vulnerable to #COVID19 - from technical parole holds at Rikers Island. Cc: @TMLuongo @CoreyStoughton @marie_defender @Michelle_Mc_G #FreeThemNow pic.twitter.com/fqjB1wZI7G

— The Legal Aid Society (@LegalAidNYC) March 27, 2020

thread title is becoming a little too literal

cuomo and deblasio should've known better earlier. They aren't the liquidized walnut level of Trump but they waited too long.

― Yerac, Friday, March 27, 2020 4:03 PM (fifty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

the fact that cuomo is the breakout star of this, despite doing a measurably worse job than very many other governors by every possible metric, is proof if proof were need be that a daily televised press briefing will take you a long way in this country.

cuomo comes across as prepared and reliable on tv, but I think a lot of people really don't appreciate where we are on the curve and how ugly the situation is going to get. he's going to be accountable for some percentage of what's coming.

de blasio managed to both make stupid decisions and look bad even when he didn't need to do much to look like he cared. it's genuinely amazing that someone who is so bad at politics fell into the job. he will go down as the worst nyc mayor in modern history.

I know it's a hard decision to shut down a major city, esp nyc but they seriously had this happen to other cities beforehand. I have no clue why they thought the outcome would be different.

my mom, in pennsylvania, has texted me about admiring cuomo

(i told her to fuck off that he's better than trump, but good lord what a low bar. give me inslee)

they saw him on the television

(Rudy was worse than BdB, you clown)

i know it goes without saying, but helena bonham fucking christ essentially any random person off the street would be better at this than trump, but

DeBlasio said on TV tonight that April's gonna be worse than March, and May might be worse than April.

well, i mean it's good they are finally being realistic.