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and now they're answering questions about their process

Paperbag raita (ledge), Monday, 23 March 2020 10:21 (four years ago) link

Time for some gamelan theory.

I've got my bidet and my pills (Noel Emits), Monday, 23 March 2020 10:55 (four years ago) link

ha, I forgot Ae got me into gamelan

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Monday, 23 March 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link

Seven onesix recording? Live recordings I guess

I tried buying the big dump of previous live recordings but the download failed. Got money back, but haven't tried again (also a bit miffed that there was no discount for the ones I already had)

koogs, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:16 (four years ago) link

oh no i went to lunch and missed the kecak.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Monday, 23 March 2020 13:30 (four years ago) link

I wonder if Sean and Rob even know what's going on in the world ...

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:38 (four years ago) link

Anyway, I assume/hope someone is recording it?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:46 (four years ago) link

this crowd sourced tracklist has links to yesterdays and an archive of some other long sets near the bottom: https://ethercalc.org/85ustvyu4w51

Paperbag raita (ledge), Monday, 23 March 2020 13:49 (four years ago) link

Predictably, I think that site is slammed, but thanks!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 March 2020 14:25 (four years ago) link

yesterday's:
https://wetransfer.com/downloads/6c6059e8645830801446bb4e3a65751120200322112048/ff122f

other:
https://mega.nz/#F!m41xiA4R!k9ywnV6kN0_lNMk7LBUrrA

today's is great & all but you could probably queue up a dozen gamelan albums on spotify to similar effect.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Monday, 23 March 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link

Awesome, thanks! My family is going to hate me.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 March 2020 14:39 (four years ago) link

omg I can't believe it only occurred to me now how much "Covid-19" looks like the name of an Autechre track.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 March 2020 18:00 (four years ago) link

oh I noticed that right away

frogbs, Monday, 23 March 2020 18:03 (four years ago) link

I created a Spotify playlist of all the 2015 live sets and have had it on shuffle for most of the day. It might be the perfect post-COVID music, because I really can't think of any reason to leave home and stand in a pitch black room with other people to hear this stuff.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 23 March 2020 20:54 (four years ago) link

Just catching up to the news now... TWO new albums? Curious what will differentiate them to be separate in a stylistic sense rather than one epic compendium a la NTS. And to confirm, seven onesix project that's imminently dropping is a set of recorded jams?

Knowing this is all coming soon gives me some latent strength to handle the inevitable drudgery and economic challenges that will ensue this summer

octobeard, Monday, 23 March 2020 22:17 (four years ago) link

OneSix was the name of the last tour, so it'll be live recordings of that. I lost my downloaded audience recordings of that tour so I'm warming up my wallet.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 24 March 2020 03:43 (four years ago) link

just kicked off on the seventh 12 hour set in a row: http://mixlr.com/autechre/

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 27 March 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link

^this is fun and not at all what I was expecting

ogmor, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 10:48 (four years ago) link

Lotta good shit, Sean's done swathes of metal, reggae, Detroit, abstract ... last night he went through a folder of working Ae jams and played a few seconds of each. Quite a few recognisable, many quite dull, the very coolest ones cut off almost immediately (presumably wants to keep them for future releases!).

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 31 March 2020 11:19 (four years ago) link

liking the Italo-ish/hi-NRG/big chunky 80s vibe we seem to have landed on now

is anyone recording these? or writing up the tracklistings?

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 13:35 (four years ago) link

They're still at it?!

Sean in the chatroom now saying he'd totally get a bidet if he had room for one. This is all a bit too close to home lol

(can't help you on the tracklist, sorry APS, though there was a google docs thing that floated in the chats someday, that tries to log everything)

Sean in the chatroom now saying he'd totally get a bidet if he had room for one. This is all a bit too close to home lol

also new sampling material

octobeard, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 18:46 (four years ago) link

Thanks!

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 31 March 2020 22:59 (four years ago) link

just found this link for the 1 april mix: https://we.tl/t-Xg6u6yVHRU

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 3 April 2020 08:39 (four years ago) link

ah yeah that one starts interestingly!

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Friday, 3 April 2020 08:48 (four years ago) link

it's titled 01.04.2020 but the tracklist matches 02.04.2020 in the google doc.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 3 April 2020 09:00 (four years ago) link

o i c all the links are in the spreadsheet. except for this one - the ae jams bit mentioned above:

https://we.tl/t-GwBers9Fq0

Paperbag raita (ledge), Friday, 3 April 2020 09:16 (four years ago) link

They're up! 7 new sets. Time for some brain massages

octobeard, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

not the damn show I went to - no doubt a two stage release like last time. Looks like they have re-pressed the NTS vinyl too?

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

Can they repress everything Chiastic onward now?

octobeard, Tuesday, 7 April 2020 19:20 (four years ago) link

Melbourne is sounding really good to me, on initial flip-cursorily-through-them-all-and-pick-your-Ae-steak inspection

Cysteine Chapo (Craig D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 22:40 (four years ago) link

(Wouldn't you know, Ae steak is very marbled)

Cysteine Chapo (Craig D.), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 22:41 (four years ago) link

Just listened to Helsinki. As I recall from when I saw them in London it's a very different mood from the 14/15 sets. Low energy, slow to develop, hard to love, except for a couple of short sections around 35 & 45 mins. Will try Melbourne now.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:10 (four years ago) link

> hard to love

you underestimate us

koogs, Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:22 (four years ago) link

lol i know we have the best minds here working hard on developing a fanatical appreciation for everything these guys do.

Paperbag raita (ledge), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:31 (four years ago) link

you’ve described my mission for the last 25 years

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 8 April 2020 10:34 (four years ago) link

mixlring again

Paperbag raita (ledge), Thursday, 9 April 2020 12:55 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

jamming on twitch right now: https://m.twitch.tv/4utechre

lovely downtempo ambient beat jam that has the synths at the end of maphive6.1 with some funky slow percussion and processed sounds reminiscent of a bit of the NTS sessions. really good

octobeard, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 00:35 (four years ago) link

damn

lukas, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 05:34 (four years ago) link

lol wait they're still going four hours later

lukas, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 05:34 (four years ago) link

something is going, at least

lukas, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 05:43 (four years ago) link

should not be as compelling as it is, witchcraft

lukas, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 06:00 (four years ago) link

it's generative - been going for more than a week now. Someone at watmm pasted this bit of explanatory chat from Sean:

Broadcaster4utechre: all the synths are just playing whatevers in the frame at that point

Broadcaster4utechre: it scans the frame line by line top to bottom

Broadcaster4utechre: r g b are 3 diff channels so i use all 3 but i put red stuff lower, green around the mid and blue for the cooler feeling higher stuff, idk i did it by taste

Broadcaster4utechre: and then combine the 3 and the output is the oscilattor out

Broadcaster4utechre: the frame is actually 3 diff matrices overlaid if you like, r g and b

Broadcaster4utechre: so i can use all 3 so i used a crossover to split them across the spectrum

Broadcaster4utechre: 2 crossovers

Broadcaster4utechre: so i put red stuff lower freq, green stuff is sort of melodic midrange, and blue is anything above that

Broadcaster4utechre: i did it to how the sort of warm/cool axis works around sounds in my head idk

Broadcaster4utechre: yeah

_: So, can you dial in colours, or are they chosen randomly
Broadcaster4utechre: its an algorithm

Broadcaster4utechre: colour is p interesting it turns out

Broadcaster4utechre: i like colour best of all the things i got into doing this

Broadcaster4utechre: the visuals are being controlled by certain events but its minimal interaction

Broadcaster4utechre: mostly its about the image changing the sound

_: I guess I’m curious how the visuals are informing the audio if the algorithm is taking the music into account. Is it a feedback loop?
Broadcaster4utechre: its luminance across all 3 clour planes

_: So i dont think s ean programmed key changes
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah the key i just set

Broadcaster4utechre: i can make it keep changing but u might feel sick after a bit

...

Broadcaster4utechre: all the oscillators in all the synths (incl drums) are reading the same wavetable are their respective frequencies

Broadcaster4utechre: it reads what's on the screen the same way a tv shows an image

Broadcaster4utechre: line by line, across and down

Broadcaster4utechre: each full frame is one cycle

Broadcaster4utechre: but as the oscillators are going at different rates sometimes the data in the wavetable changes before a cycle is complete

Broadcaster4utechre: it interpolates pretty well though

_: So the linear vector of RGB values is the wavetable? What triggers the envelopes?
Broadcaster4utechre: am just using stock objects to do this

Broadcaster4utechre: all the sequencing etc is just existing stuff, as were the synths before i swapped in these oscillators

Broadcaster4utechre: i mean the music is new but the patches used to sequence are existing

_: ahhh yeh so there's still a sequence of on off in each synth yeh?
Broadcaster4utechre: yeah the synths and drums etc are all doing what they would do anyway, just the wavetable in all the oscillators is changing

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 06:20 (four years ago) link

this stream is absolutely brilliant, thank you.

porlockian solicitor (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 07:21 (four years ago) link

incredible. i barely understand the explanation but this

r g b are 3 diff channels so i use all 3 but i put red stuff lower, green around the mid and blue for the cooler feeling higher stuff, idk i did it by taste

seems like the opposite of what i would have done (i.e. blue/cool/low freq, red/hot/high freq).

a slice of greater pastry (ledge), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 08:00 (four years ago) link

Looking at the visuals now I think the relationship might be a bit different - that discussion was from a couple of days ago I think

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 09:22 (four years ago) link

thanks for the link - I tried to install two different Twitch apps on the smart telly just for this to no avail, but have had it burbling in the background on laptop speakers for three hours now

Elon's musk (sic), Tuesday, 12 May 2020 09:48 (four years ago) link

saying the music reflects the picture prompts the question about who wrote the graphical bits.

koogs, Tuesday, 12 May 2020 11:53 (four years ago) link


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