Covid-19's fatality rate won't come close to the 1918 influenza (>2.5%). And the 1918 influenza targeted young adults with similar or greater alacrity than the elderly.
The 1918 H1N1 pandemic very strongly provoked the immune system, which meant young people died from their own immune responses, often within a day or two. SARS-CoV-2's big trick seems to be that it only modestly provokes immune response until its quite well advanced. This spares most younger people, who don't overrespond to small scale infections with full blown ARDS before they develop antibodies. But it also means that its period of covert infectiousness prior to symptoms is longer than with most respiratory infectious diseases.
― Sanpaku, Sunday, 22 March 2020 23:12 (four years ago) link
holy shit. I had no clue Rand Paul was Ron Paul's/Also no hope on him becoming a better person through this. He was a doctor. He didn't develop empathy through that so he's basically a lost cause. (also he didn't finish his undergrad and got into Duke med through his dad! thx wiki).
― Yerac, Sunday, 22 March 2020 23:24 (four years ago) link
So since congresspeople are old not young it should be worse on them this time, no?
― Frederik B, Sunday, 22 March 2020 23:25 (four years ago) link
50 million people died of (or more accurately, during) the Spanish flu, 675,000 in the U.S. alone. Estimates for the 1958 "Asian" flu were about 2 million worldwide, 70,000 in the U.S.. 1968 flu killed around a million globally, 100,000 in the U.S.. Globally, we are currently at around 15,000 deaths for this, with some countries apparently already slowing down, to some extent. I hope it stays that relatively low and slow, and with the stricter measures being imposed around the globe, however belatedly, maybe it will, but who knows.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 March 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link
you might not like it but thats his right as an american https://t.co/tiwz4rykCC— br⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️⚫️seph (@on3ness) March 22, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2020 00:03 (four years ago) link
is the stimulus vote going to have enough senators? can they "remote" vote?
― Karl Malone, Sunday, March 22, 2020 6:46 PM bookmarkflaglink
they can't because Mitch has stood in the way. now that he may lose his senate majority for the vote, I have a feeling they might change course.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 March 2020 00:18 (four years ago) link
lol those Dem sellouts.
McConnell didn’t even come close to getting Manchin. https://t.co/bw75twRY7y— Adam Jentleson 🎈 (@AJentleson) March 23, 2020
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 March 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link
we have to cherish these opportunities: fuck yeah joe machin!!
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 March 2020 02:24 (four years ago) link
*manchin
Lol @ mcconnell fucking this up
Even if it passed the senate it was gonna die in the House
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 02:38 (four years ago) link
Manchin knows which side his bread is buttered on and it isn't Wall Street, airlines etc.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 02:53 (four years ago) link
Big Business vs The People is the least of it. this proposal effectively turns Treasury into the Spoils and Favors department.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 23 March 2020 02:58 (four years ago) link
drain the swamp; build the spoils and favors department on the new land
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 March 2020 03:01 (four years ago) link
lol puhlezze
TOP INDUSTRIES 2013 - 2018Securities & Investment$858,441
https://www.opensecrets.org/members-of-congress/summary?cid=N00032838&cycle=2018
There's such a thing as getting buttered on both sides. On this one it's just clearly a bridge too far.
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 23 March 2020 03:08 (four years ago) link
that's what, 25% of his total fundraising? Less?
fwiw I don't think campaign contributions explain very much about voting patterns tbh.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 03:16 (four years ago) link
Blah blah blah https://t.co/zkJ1fsKMGc— Senator John Cornyn (@JohnCornyn) March 23, 2020
yeesh
― frogbs, Monday, 23 March 2020 03:16 (four years ago) link
xp why then does Goldman Sachs e.g. contribute to these campaigns? Because they don't get the votes they want? I don't even know why I'm asking this
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 23 March 2020 03:19 (four years ago) link
me neither
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 03:20 (four years ago) link
I just think the calculus in a vote is more often quite a bit more complex than "donor X gave me money to vote Y, therefore I vote Y". I'm not saying that doesn't happen (it definitely does, especially when you get into the specific details of legislation) but it's not always an accurate explanation - there are often competing priorities, pressure coming from different directions, constituent service concerns, polling numbers, pressures from within (and outside) the caucus and leadership, relationships with other legislators, favors owed or being incurred, etc. It's a lot of factors.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 03:28 (four years ago) link
Too bad Cornyn wasn't hanging with Rand today.
― a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 23 March 2020 03:33 (four years ago) link
it's also too bad he didn't fall into a wood chipper
― Οὖτις, Monday, 23 March 2020 03:38 (four years ago) link
The eulogy for john cornynJohn Cornyn was the senior senator from Texas, holding many key positions in GOP leadership including...eh. Bla bla bla. He’s dead now.
― Karl Malone, Monday, 23 March 2020 03:51 (four years ago) link
Man I'm so glad I don't use Twitter anymore. What an unpleasant arena
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Monday, 23 March 2020 05:13 (four years ago) link
w/ that said
The UK is paying everyone 80% of their wages through this crisis. Denmark is paying 75%. Remember that when you get your $1200 check.— Hamilton Nolan (@hamiltonnolan) March 22, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2020 11:52 (four years ago) link
Freelancers aren't currently getting 80% of their wages yet.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 23 March 2020 11:55 (four years ago) link
Freelancers don't get jack shit in the UK scheme as far as I can tell?
Everyone who's already been laid off in the UK, and everyone who will get laid off, is at the mercy of the benefits system
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 March 2020 12:02 (four years ago) link
I’d like that to be the amount taken in before we offset against expenses, thanks - plus a minimum income floor to protect those of us waiting to be paid for the work we’ve done this year. And for it to have nothing whatsoever to do with Universal Credit.
― santa clause four (suzy), Monday, 23 March 2020 12:03 (four years ago) link
That tweet otm. Netherlands paying 90%, plus a topping up to minimum wage for all freelancers and sole entrepeneurs, if needed. Doling out checks seems like such a dumb idea if it's not backed by a more rigorous safety net.
xp
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 23 March 2020 12:03 (four years ago) link
it could be worse. it will be worse. https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-economy-recession-donald-trump-0b5ab109-1a5e-4397-b54b-5f17d802c029.html
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Monday, 23 March 2020 12:16 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I'll get nothing from the Danish state, I would love getting 1200$
― Frederik B, Monday, 23 March 2020 12:17 (four years ago) link
ah shit someone showed him Medium https://t.co/RnlHoSaOLI— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) March 23, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2020 12:49 (four years ago) link
My 76 year old not particularly radical mom right now: "Bernie should just declare himself interim president and tell us where to show up to overthrow the government - we can take my car."— 🌹 Goody Weaver Cavorting With The Devil 🌹 (@goodyweaver) March 22, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2020 12:51 (four years ago) link
so Trump's gonna order people back to work in a week isn't he
― frogbs, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:07 (four years ago) link
He can 'order' all he likes. Pretty sure the states are in control now.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 March 2020 13:10 (four years ago) link
if the white house is telling people to resume normal operations, that could do a tremendous amount of harm even if states like new york don't abide it
― treeship., Monday, 23 March 2020 13:24 (four years ago) link
Yeah I mean most he could do is end the national emergency which...yeah, see how well that goes over.
Idiot seriously thinks this was just a two week thing.
As much as I would love resuming everyday life....nah bruh.
Xpost of course it could but then States can go into lockdown/shelter in place and legally enforce.
Got to imagine Fauci is losing his mind.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 March 2020 13:26 (four years ago) link
we're gonna be locked down until September thanks to this moron
― frogbs, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:29 (four years ago) link
Won't someone please cough persistently into his face and hasten the end of this national nightmare
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Monday, 23 March 2020 13:34 (four years ago) link
I don't want to downplay how alarming that tweet is in terms of signalling his bottomless stupidity and greed / obvious desperation to not go out like a loser, but the substance of it amounts to "in the future, I will make a decision"
― rob, Monday, 23 March 2020 13:42 (four years ago) link
It's getting better: https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-economy-recession-donald-trump-0b5ab109-1a5e-4397-b54b-5f17d802c029.html
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 March 2020 13:43 (four years ago) link
The thing is, in two weeks this will all be much worse, so it's pretty unthinkable either practically, medically or politically that restrictions would be lifted in any sense
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 23 March 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link
There's just no way.
The CDC is rumored to be suggesting that known infected workers can return to work with a mask.
Like wtf....you want to reopen businesses and throw a bunch of people whose infection status isn't known together?
Redfield is the worst
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 March 2020 13:56 (four years ago) link
Asshole should just "hereby declare" the pandemic over. And then he'll really get to see how little power being a shitty leader gets him.
How long until he starts holding rallies again?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 March 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
cool that Jack Dorsey's refusal to boot Trump off Twitter despite repeatedly violating the TOS is going to result in thousands of people getting killed
― frogbs, Monday, 23 March 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link
"People getting killed" is probably in Twitter's TOS.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 23 March 2020 14:12 (four years ago) link
we're gonna be locked down until September
of 2021?
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 23 March 2020 14:13 (four years ago) link
Wouldn't be surprised if that Fauci interview someone posted yesterday (on CNN's front page right now) gets him exiled stage left soon. He's visible and popular and trusted enough that I don't think he'd be let go, but you may stop seeing him at briefings. Which would be terrible, of course.
― clemenza, Monday, 23 March 2020 14:14 (four years ago) link
Among many other reasons, why the fuck does Trump exist on briefings with five or six people huddled together unless he wants to kill them all? I wouldn't doubt it.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 March 2020 14:16 (four years ago) link
I'm fuckin' moving
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 23 March 2020 14:17 (four years ago) link
its serious malpractice for the networks to even air them. MSNBC at least seems to fact check them after they're over but seriously if you're going to do that just don't put them on at all. especially if the one dude who actually knows what he's talking about isn't there.
― frogbs, Monday, 23 March 2020 14:20 (four years ago) link