US Politics, March 2020 — There’s a very good chance you’re not going to die.

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how could anyone think he is "doing an OK job at this"? he was saying it was the same as the flu less than two weeks ago

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link

Yeah, it’s dispiriting. And literally 4 hours ago he was tweeting about how 2 malaria drugs are definitely going to save the day and pushing everyone to try them immediately

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link

i know. and i mean, every single press conference is just him talking about himself, how unfair the media is, blah blah blah

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link

i would not underestimate to the degree to which approval rating w/r/t a tragedy carries over into general overall approval

we saw this happen in real time w/ Giuliani, people get desperate for even the illusion of comfort, even from a monster, all you need is broad shouders or a bullhorn

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link

underestimate to the degree

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link

he isn't handling this as competently as giuliani or bush did on 9/11. he can't play the role of a reassuring, normal guy. he is inveighing against his enemies at every turn, blurting out misinformation like a moron

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

also....approval rating of handling a disaster does not equate to approval rating. somebody could be saying "he's doing an ok job at this but he's an asshole otherwise".

― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, March 21, 2020 1:21 PM (fifty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes ^

― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:11 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

how could anyone think he is "doing an OK job at this"? he was saying it was the same as the flu less than two weeks ago

― treeship., Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:13 PM (f

His general approval rating has remained dismal.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:18 (four years ago) link

how did Bush and Giuliani "handle" 9-11 "competently"

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

xp treeship, that's how you and I see it, yes

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

"i call it CON-cast to tell you the truth" -- the president yesterday, in a press conference designed to reassure the public

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:19 (four years ago) link

they didn't go on tv and act like this alfred

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:20 (four years ago) link

i'd think the american people wouldn't have an appetite for this kind of thing when they're tuning in to learn if they will die next week of lung failure

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:22 (four years ago) link

hope you're right

we've been choosing to eat a lot of shit for a long time though

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:25 (four years ago) link

Getting lobbed a softball question like “what do you say to people who are scared” and snapping at the reporter is definitely not something Rudy or GWB would’ve done

frogbs, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:26 (four years ago) link

for about 2 weeks Giuliani was a competent public mourner who didn't say anything stupid on mic. the he started plotting for a third term.

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:28 (four years ago) link

they were minimally aware that other things in the world existed beyond their own, immediate desires though

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:29 (four years ago) link

at the very least, they had medium to long-term desires

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link

Getting lobbed a softball question like “what do you say to people who are scared” and snapping at the reporter is definitely not something Rudy or GWB would’ve done

W, maybe, but Giuliani rarely missed an opportunity to piss in a reporter's face.

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:30 (four years ago) link

how could anyone think he is "doing an OK job at this"? he was saying it was the same as the flu less than two weeks ago

― treeship., Saturday, March 21, 2020 2:13 PM bookmarkflaglink

I mean why do people like him at all? it's infuriating but it's a calculus I'll never understand.

I don't give credit to the dude for being dragged into this kicking and screaming, yet I had an argument with two Trumpers today who said he was doing an "amazing" job.

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:31 (four years ago) link

he is pumped up by an entire media ecosystem that rationalizes everything he says or does.

i guarantee you, for 99% of MAGA supporters, if they saw someone behave like he does in their personal life, they would be alarmed

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:32 (four years ago) link

Doesn't matter.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link

i guess, i don't know what matters

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:35 (four years ago) link

Keeping yourself and your family safe.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

i'm trying to do that. holed up in this weird apartment away from my books.

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:36 (four years ago) link

not weird -- just not mine. not a fan of this.

treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

I think a lot of people can sympathise with somebody who kinda hoped and thought something was gonna be nbd and then realised it was disastrous and started taking it seriously. It’s relatable!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:37 (four years ago) link

stop telling people what matters to them

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:38 (four years ago) link

xp kind of guy you'd like to have a virtual, nonalcoholic beer with

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:39 (four years ago) link

xps

i know, the thing you're tired of hearing is white men complaining about potential bad things, since most people are already dealing with the actual things and it's not helpful to add whining to the mix. instead, get out there and actually do something, you sad whiny fucks. we've been through this. but in this case, it's the white sad man's dream - we CAN'T go out there and do something. so for once, let people care about what they actually care about

Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:41 (four years ago) link

I understand Οὖτις's contention that ignoring these press briefings is the sanest thing to do. I really do. But--not wanting to argue about it at the moment--I think there's an equally valid argument for keeping tabs on what the person making decisions is saying each day (and also to really understand the scope of his incompetence--which, I know, everyone understands already).

Thinking about the way he's been hyping this malaria-related drug the past couple of days, it's clear that the big thing for him is that side effects are minimal/not a danger, and that it's a drug that has already been approved. He could just as well be up there sharing his excitement about Flintstones vitamins as a potential savior.

clemenza, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:43 (four years ago) link

Yeah. He really wants to move past this in the hopes the stock market recovers; it's what he cares about.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

we saw this happen in real time w/ Giuliani, people get desperate for even the illusion of comfort, even from a monster, all you need is broad shouders or a bullhorn


Wire Mother 2020: You’ll Learn to Love Me

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:52 (four years ago) link

I mean he’s clearly trying to cast himself as a savior, he already credits himself for saving thousands of lives by cutting off travel from China

frogbs, Saturday, 21 March 2020 19:04 (four years ago) link

This clip is worth watching in full, even though it's Rachel Maddow monologuing and even though it's almost six minutes long.

Here's the clip where @Maddow says if were up to her, there would be no live carriage of his briefings because he keeps lying about what is being done. pic.twitter.com/z7bf7rITN1

— Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) March 21, 2020

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 21 March 2020 19:15 (four years ago) link

i'll put what I care about on the fears thread

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 19:44 (four years ago) link

12. We have to support industry in a moment of crisis. But the key here is the conditions, and what is likely to happen by allowing Mnuchin to set the terms of all aid is a consolidation of power in the hands of a few. No more small business. America will be unrecognizable.

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) March 21, 2020

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 March 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link

whole thread worth 20 seconds of your time obv

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 March 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link

Mute, like pictures of people with their mouth agape?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:16 (four years ago) link

summing up

Mitch McConnell is right now negotiating with Trump to restructure the entire economy, and Schumer and Pelosi are passively letting him do it.

— Matt Stoller (@matthewstoller) March 21, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

oh right the democratically controlled senate

El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:26 (four years ago) link

sometimes you gotta take hostages

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

every single thing has to be about democrats letting the people who are holding all of the cards hold the cards. letting letting letting letting

El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:27 (four years ago) link

it's too boring to point out that the scorpion is a scorpion, so we need more threads about how the frog is a feckless imbecile

El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:29 (four years ago) link

they did next door to nothing in 2009-10 when they "held all the cards"

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:30 (four years ago) link

ahistorical lying suits you

El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:32 (four years ago) link

oh great we're back to this mode

I wish you well but youre a brainwashed spook to the core

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link

and we're all gonna die and deserve to THE END

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link

BUT AT LEAST GRANCY KEPT HER COCKSUCKING CUNTY CAUCUS TOGETHER

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 21:34 (four years ago) link


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