Narrator: they weren’t happy
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 21 March 2020 01:43 (four years ago) link
My fellow Americans, I would like to address some of the untruths currently being propagated by our president regarding the coronavirus outbreak. Number one... (turns and wanders out of frame while continuing to speak, walks back into frame shirtless twenty minutes later)
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Saturday, 21 March 2020 01:44 (four years ago) link
That makes me a bit happier to see Biden talking shit.
― DJI, Saturday, 21 March 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link
He's alive!
― Why, I would make a fantastic Nero! (PBKR), Saturday, 21 March 2020 02:23 (four years ago) link
jay rosen concurs with shakey:
It is believed by many people who follow me that tougher, more confrontational questions — and more determined follow-ups — are the answer to press briefings on the virus that allow Trump to elude accountability.I disagree. It's is one of my least popular conclusions. THREAD 1/— Jay Rosen (@jayrosen_nyu) March 20, 2020
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 02:46 (four years ago) link
[It is very widely believed — among people who talk to me on this website, but also among journalists who report on politics — that tough questions and determined follow-ups can prevent the president from using the briefings to inject falsehoods into national discourse. lol nobody thinks this, do they? The reason to counter his lies is because they are lies. Not because anybody thinks he’s going to stop lying This is the impeachment debate redux
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 02:53 (four years ago) link
Cable news, man
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 02:55 (four years ago) link
Jay Rosen is completely otm in that thread
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 03:34 (four years ago) link
I can understand that it's impossible for any news network to stop airing the press conferences but they should treat them as if they are separate and distinct from actual information. Trump needs to stop being made the main character of the news
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 03:36 (four years ago) link
"Biden plans shadow coronavirus briefings"
Trying to imagine how much that headline would have baffled me a year ago.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:23 (four years ago) link
Waiting for a pool reporter to push back at being chewed out by 45 and call bullshit but that’s never gonna happen, right?
― santa clause four (suzy), Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:23 (four years ago) link
There's no time allotted to push back. The system is built so that "pushing back" means you have to shout over the POTUS and every other reporter in the pool all at once. Some other clown is always going to have a question they want to ask, so you get one shot and that's it. Collective action problems.
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:26 (four years ago) link
I was taken by this in WaPO:
“President Trump has taken historic, aggressive measures to protect the health, wealth and safety of the American people — and did so, while the media and Democrats chose to only focus on the stupid politics of a sham illegitimate impeachment,” Hogan Gidley said in a statement. “It’s more than disgusting, despicable and disgraceful for cowardly unnamed sources to attempt to rewrite history — it’s a clear threat to this great country.”
What is a Hogan Gidley? How did Hogan Gidley come on the scene without me noticing?
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:29 (four years ago) link
Hogan Gidley, Robot P.I.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:31 (four years ago) link
he's apparently been around. I think he used to work for Santorum. I refuse to google further
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:31 (four years ago) link
I looked him up, he's exactly as Alex P. Keaton as I hoped.
https://celebsiren.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/hogan.png
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:37 (four years ago) link
that’s terrible hair
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:47 (four years ago) link
Looks like somebody slapped it on with cheap glue
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 04:48 (four years ago) link
looks like Generic Gangbang Guy #47
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 21 March 2020 05:00 (four years ago) link
that final (15th) Rosen tweet makes me think there's a personal story being alluded to
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 05:10 (four years ago) link
a lot of people have lived with malignant narcissists, the lucky ones figure out what they're dealing with and the extra-lucky ones have the wherewithal to move on
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 05:15 (four years ago) link
JUST IN: 55% of Americans approve of Pres. Trump's management of the coronavirus crisis, compared to 43% who disapprove, according to new @ABC News/Ipsos poll. https://t.co/oNg6ZipDN2 pic.twitter.com/yVcGO0CpbD— ABC News Politics (@ABCPolitics) March 20, 2020
― Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 21 March 2020 10:05 (four years ago) link
we discussed that poll yesterday
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 21 March 2020 10:58 (four years ago) link
sorry missed it, thread moves fast
― Corduroy Stridulations (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 21 March 2020 11:24 (four years ago) link
Pathetic. This is shaping up as the biggest failure of Pelosi’s career—both strategically re how to use her considerable leverage and normatively re the failure to grasp that we are headed into a depression and the biggest, smartest income support bill *must* be passed. https://t.co/JNnBMSEVOr— Richard Yeselson (@yeselson) March 20, 2020
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link
Trump is the first incumbent president to be trailing at this point in the general election cycle (i.e. late March in the election year) since Harry Truman in 1948.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/21/politics/trump-vs-biden-poll-of-the-week/index.html?
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 21 March 2020 14:09 (four years ago) link
chuck schumer on tv now repeating liz warren talking points about the upcoming airline bailouts
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 14:37 (four years ago) link
pretty good
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link
I’m baffled by that poll too but I still think that reality has not set in for most of America yet. Once they’re jobless and locked in their houses for 2 months with relatives and friends getting sick and possibly dying I feel like his numbers will slide. As far as I can tell every world leader is getting an approval bump right now.
― frogbs, Saturday, 21 March 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
"hey I'm still alive NOW!"
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:01 (four years ago) link
Approval rating for how leadership is handling a crisis has next to nothing to do with how leadership is handling a crisis. People project their deep wish to have strong leadership. As things get more grim I'd expect it only to rise.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link
GWB dropped into the mid 20s
― frogbs, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:19 (four years ago) link
Carter's approval rating soon after the Iranian hostages were taken, for instance, was very high. The first Iraq War, 9/11, there's always initial rallying-around.
http://www.nytimes.com/1979/12/10/archives/survey-finds-carters-popularity-has-risen-sharply-in-iran-crisis.html
(Which is not to say that Trump's 35% will ever desert him.)
― clemenza, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:21 (four years ago) link
Right, eventually when things die down hopefully there's a more sober assessment. But mid-crisis is different. How high was GWB's right after 9/11 and how long did it take to get to that mid-20s? Granted the mismanagement of that response was overseas so out of sight out of mind for many Americans.
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:41 (four years ago) link
Reporters should respond to Trump lies with audible groans.
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:45 (four years ago) link
Sanders was correct at the top of the last debate: We need to shut this mass-murdering motherfucker up. Stop covering his pressers as much as possible.
https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-touts-unproven-coronavirus-drug-cocktail-as-one-of-the-biggest-game-changers-in-the-history-of-medicine/
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:46 (four years ago) link
Bernie is definitely the only person who ever voiced that idea
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:53 (four years ago) link
I get that he’s the only democratic presidential candidate who said it but c’mon, people have been pointing out that covering Trump pressers is bad since the second time Trump gave a presser
― El Tomboto, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:54 (four years ago) link
Ahem
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 21 March 2020 16:58 (four years ago) link
first time
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:04 (four years ago) link
oh wait - sorry. before the first time.
no one cares when ILX says it, we're lower than Tulsi Gabbard
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link
― frogbs, Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:19 PM bookmarkflaglink
that was at the end of his second term. he was slightly above 50% by the time the Kerry election came by.
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:20 (four years ago) link
and he still barely held that milquetoast off
― sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 March 2020 17:21 (four years ago) link
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, March 21, 2020 12:16 PM bookmarkflaglink
also....approval rating of handling a disaster does not equate to approval rating. somebody could be saying "he's doing an ok job at this but he's an asshole otherwise".
Yes ^
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link
how could anyone think he is "doing an OK job at this"? he was saying it was the same as the flu less than two weeks ago
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:13 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it’s dispiriting. And literally 4 hours ago he was tweeting about how 2 malaria drugs are definitely going to save the day and pushing everyone to try them immediately
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
i know. and i mean, every single press conference is just him talking about himself, how unfair the media is, blah blah blah
― treeship., Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:16 (four years ago) link
i would not underestimate to the degree to which approval rating w/r/t a tragedy carries over into general overall approval
we saw this happen in real time w/ Giuliani, people get desperate for even the illusion of comfort, even from a monster, all you need is broad shouders or a bullhorn
― Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 March 2020 18:17 (four years ago) link