Sun Ra in Chronological Order: An Arkestra Listening Thread + Related Solar Sounds

wait where did you find it? link?

oh nm you probably went to slsk or something

slsk it was!

Hi folks, taking a brief break today but I'll be back tomorrow to start the 70s!

i have so much catching up to do

GET ON IT, KARL

I expect a written paragraph on each record you've missed so far, 4 sentences minimum, due Wednesday

i will respond experimentally and intuitively, out of respect to the music

<3

Atlantis is the only Sun Ra I’ve ever heard, but it’s ace. A full-length 40-minute version of side two would be amazing.

xxxp i’m actually planning on something similar, to process my responses but i’ll probably post it here, soon as i get a computer so i can do some typing.

gonna make ya proud sleeve. real proud.

awww <3

oh hey I found a Youtube link for the live 1966 recordings released as "Spaceways" a.k.a. "Outerspaceways Inc." a.k.a. "A Tonal View Of Times Tomorrow Vol. 3", covered upthread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_nMNBqonrI

1970 - My Brother The Wind Vol. 2 plus “Journey To Saturn” 7”

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Enter June Tyson, her first appearance on record! Added to the Spotify playlist. Recorded in 1969 (the Moog side) and 1970 (the A-side), released as an LP on Saturn in 1971. A few Scorpio pressings, I assume from the 2000s, but other than that there was no reissue of this at all until the Bandcamp version in 2014.

The Bandcamp/Spotify version is remastered, but no extra goodies. One side of genius, one side of full blast Moog madness. As per their writeup:

The ensemble pieces (1-6) were recorded at Variety Studios, probably in early 1970. This is a tight band, and with the exception of "Contrast," these tracks feature something not found on many studio recordings by Ra in the 1960s—a groove, one closer to roadhouse R&B than jazz. There's a bit of Memphis blues, a touch of Booker T & the MGs, albeit with Sun Ra's usual disregard for Top 40 niceties. The horns contribute some characteristically spirited solos.

However, nothing foreshadowed what awaited the listener who flipped the platter.

As per the Sun Ra Sundays writeup:

The remainder of the album is taken up with five brief synthesizer experiments, Ra having purchased a brand new Minimoog of his own. “The Wind Speaks” explores white noise and fluttering filter effects while “Sun Thoughts” focuses on sour intervals and swooping, sea-sick portamentos. “Journey to the Stars” uses the ADSR envelope filter to create wah-wah-ing attacks and swelling sustained notes while “World of Myth ‘I’” consists of knob-turning pitch-shifting. Finally, “The Design – Cosmos II” conjures up some resonant, bell-tone sounds, with increasingly busy atonal melodies scattered over a repeating bass note. While these tracks may sound a bit tentative, the Minimoog would become a fixture of Ra’s keyboard arsenal in the nineteen-seventies and most concerts would feature a lengthy synthesizer solo full of apocalyptic bombast. Unfortunately, My Brother the Wind, Vol. II comes across as kind of schizophrenic: some of this material is the most toe-tappingly accessible in all of the discography, but the Moog experiments are tough-going for even the most committed fan. Even so, this is an essential album and a necessary companion to Vol. I.

And a side note from the same blog entry:

…another track found on Out There A Minute (Blast First CD) which was likely recorded at this session (or shortly thereafter). Entitled, “Jazz and Romantic Sounds,” it fits right in, with Ra’s bluesy, juke-joint organ, Marshall Allen’s impassioned solo and Patrick interjecting a honking riff here and there.

The link for that CD is upthread if u want to listen.

Lastly, we have the 7” single “Journey To Saturn”/“Enlightenment”, released in 1973 but probably recorded around this time.

1970 is gonna be a busy year, I count around ten entries from it!

weirdly, the first "My Brother The Wind" has vanished from Spotify since I added it last week!

you can still listen through the Bandcamp link above

1970 - The Night Of The Purple Moon

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Another great one, well worth your time, the Sun Ra Sundays blog gets it:

In mid-1970, Sun Ra reentered Variety Recording Studio, this time with a bare-bone Arkestra and yet another new electronic keyboard in tow, the RMI Rocksichord. In his perceptive liner notes to this CD, John Corbett describes the sound of the Rocksichord as an “unforgettable nasal quack,” and that’s a pretty accurate description of this primitive, transistorized electric piano. In another person’s hands, this would sound cheesy and (now) hopelessly out of date. But Ra builds solid, evocative compositions around the instrument and it is, inexplicably, just exactly perfect. Unfortunately, the original tapes were unsalvageable, so this reissue had to be sourced from a clean LP. There’s plenty of surface noise present, so at least we can be thankful the producers didn’t get carried away with the noise reduction and de-clicking, which can often just make things worse. Although Impulse! was prepared to reissue this album in late-seventies, it has remained an ultra-rare artifact until Atavistic released this CD in 2007. Despite the less-than-perfect sound-quality, The Night of the Purple Moon is one of the great Sun Ra albums – and one of my favorite albums of all time.

Contrary to the decade-old notes above, the 2014 Bandcamp version says they salvaged and remastered the tapes, and includes some alternate tracks and *cough* a 1975 version of one track. An intimate, fun, beautiful record.

This LP was repressed three times in the 70s, unlike many of the Saturn LPs we’ve covered so far. And it’s also unusual in being originally released right around the time it was actually recorded, in mid-1970.

a fave of mine, i gave it a relisten lately to pick out my favorite tracks (one of my challenges with ra is to listen critically without being overwhelmed by volume). in this case my picks were "the all of everything" and "narrative". (in fairness to the '75 version, isn't that just a vocal overdub on the '70 recording?)

haha I believe you are correct, good point

1970 - Nuits de la Fondation Maeght Vols 1 & 2, etc.

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Starting in October 1970, the Arkestra embarked on their first European tour. But before that, in August, they played a few nights in France to test the waters. As per Bandcamp: “Ra's Fondation Maeght dates were not part of a tour. The Arkestra’s first European tour began on October 9, 1970, at Les Halles, in Paris. The Maeght gigs qualify as exploratory visits. Despite much controversy (see below), they were successful and led to the increased use of Ra's Earthly passport over the next two decades—to Europe and beyond. “

Sun Ra Sundays helpfully excerpts a relevant Szwed passage regarding said passport:

When they filled out the forms at the passport office in New York City, the clerk at the desk said to Sun Ra, “Sir, you’re going to have to give us better information that this. We need your parents’ names, your birth date…” [Dancer] Verta Mae Grosvenor recalled that Sun Ra said, “‘That *is* the correct information.’ After a few minutes, the clerk went back to speak with her supervisor. The supervisor was no-nonsense, but after talking to Sun Ra she said, ‘Sir, why don’t you come back in a few hours.’ When we came back there was another person there and he knew about it, and he said, ‘We’ll just give you the passport.’ It just got so out that they just gave it to him!”

That passport gained talismanic force over the years, and musicians shook their heads when they saw it. Talvin Singh, an English tabla player, said: “His philosophy was that either you be part of the society or you don’t. And he wasn’t part of it. He created his own. I mean, I actually saw his passport and there was some weird shit on it. It had some different stuff.” (p.278)

We’re starting to get into that weird period of the 70s where some of these live recordings clearly have a lot of visual elements as well, that don’t come through in the audio. At any rate, this is a solid set and probably my favorite version of “Enlightenment.”

Szwed again:
The audience had little or no knowledge of Sun Ra’s music, since his records weren’t widely distributed in France, and when they arrived they saw the Arkestra spread out before them like elaborate décor: musicians in red tunics, seated in a forest of instruments on stage, dancers in red dresses. On a screen behind them was projected a sky full of stars, then planets, children in Harlem, Indians on hunting trips, and newsreel footage of protests; a ball of “magic fire” rose slowly up to the ceiling; saxophonists began to battle like Samurai, then came together like brothers; and in the still center of it all, Sun Ra sat behind the Moog, creating the sounds of gales, storms, and waves crashing. From the very first note, an agitated woman stood up and cried out, “What is this?” Afterwards, she came up and insisted on seeing the written music. Europeans seemed to want to know whether there was music behind what they were hearing, as if it would assure them that this was rational activity, and Sonny was always happy to show them the scores. A man once blurted out that his “five-year-old daughter could play that!” Sun Ra readily agreed: “She could play it, but could she write it?” (p.279)

These recordings were originally released on the French label Shandar in 1971, and have been reissued and bootlegged numerous times. The brand new Bandcamp “remasters” are actually needledrops, as the original tapes are “unavailable.”

https://sunramusic.bandcamp.com/album/nuits-de-la-fondation-maeght-vol-1

https://sunramusic.bandcamp.com/album/nuits-de-la-fondation-maeght-vol-2

Tapes of these performances are currently unavailable. Transfers from first edition vinyl and digital restoration by Irwin Chusid

Sun Ra Sundays writeups are here for the curious:

https://nuvoid.blogspot.com/2009/11/sun-ra-sunday_29.html

https://nuvoid.blogspot.com/2009/11/sun-ra-sunday_22.html

Lastly, one stray track from The Solar Myth Approach is also from the Fondation gigs, and has also been added to the Spotify playlist.

oh man, love these records, some of my favorite Ra live sets

amazing cover photo of ra at the organ !

1970 - It’s After The End Of The World (Black Myth/Out In Space)

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Moving on to the 1970 European tour proper, this was originally released as a single LP on the MPS/BASF label, with parts of the Oct. 17th and Nov. 7th shows included. It was reissued as a double CD in 1998 under the title “Black Myth/Out In Space,” including (I believe) all of both shows. This record is NOT on Bandcamp, must be a rights thing again. But, the original abridged version is on Spotify and has been added to our playlist.

The full double CD is on Youtube is you want to listen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvoEQoVDtFk

yes !!

this one is pretty rough going so far, lots of squealing

idk i thinks it’s great, lots of fun too

If you are not a reality, whose myth are you?
If you are not a myth, whose reality are you?

ok yeah I take it back, was listening to "Black Myth" at the time of that post

is this the first one to feature Alan Silva's insane string playing so prominently? Admittedly I have not absorbed the Maeght gigs in full yet either.

the two Maeght albums were the first Ra I heard. there's still too much I haven't heard but I still end up going back to them, every listen is like the first listen -- every time you think you've adjusted to the scope of this band or their intensity, they tear themselves open a little further, and then, out of nowhere, the electronics

still the ones I recommend to people asking for a good first impression because if nothing else they give you THE FULL RANGE

1971 - Universe In Blue

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OK, I was wrong about 1970, things are still confusing and I thought there were more recordings in that year than we ended up covering. Moving on, we have another live recording - it looks like it’s gonna be a while before we hear a studio date again.

The 2014 Bandcamp/Spotify version of this is definitive, with newly discovered stereo versions and unreleased material:

Universe in Blue is a rarity. This collection of undated live club performances was issued in small-run pressings with two different LP covers on Sun Ra's Saturn label around 1972, but has largely escaped further notice. It's never been reissued on LP, CD or (prior to this edition) digitally.

There are also newer Scorpio pressings of the original LP, I have one. Sun Ra Sundays covers the album as well:

Released as Saturn ESR 5000 IGB in 1972 (in mono), Universe in Blue was recorded live somewhere on the west coast presumably around August, 1971. However, the greatly reduced Arkestra suggests that it could have been recorded “somewhere on the road” in mid-1972, as they straggled across the country on their way back to Philadelphia for good (see Campbell & Trent pp.172-173). To further confuse the matter, “The Good Doctor” at ESP-disk’ provides a firm date of August 17, 1971 but insists the venue is Slug’s Saloon in New York City (see below). Who knows? In any event, behind the striking, psychedelicized album cover awaits a tasty selection of smoky, blues-based compositions, dominated by Ra’s patented “space-age barbeque” organ.

Although not excerpted above, that blog entry also covers the initial appearance of the stereo takes and unreleased tracks (first heard in a 2008 radio show).

These recordings (unreleased track excepted) sound very much of a piece with the A-side of My Brother The Wind Vol. 2 to my ears, a soft and smoky late-night vibe.

cosmic strip club vibes for sure

loving this 12 minute wolf eyes cameo

1971 - The Paris Tapes: Live At Le Théâtre Du Châtelet

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Recorded in November 1971 at the start of the second European tour, but not issued until 2010 as a definitive double CD - not on Bandcamp, but it is on Spotify and has been added to the playlist.

I keep being reminded of the classic ILM thread “Do I Have Too Many Acid Mothers Temple Albums?” except here it’s “Do I have too many live versions of Discipline 27?” The real surprise in this set to me is a version of “Angels And Demons At Play” that pops up on the 2nd disc.

laser beams right out the gate ! an auspicious beginning.

probably my favorite discovery since your tenure as spaceship pilot, sleeve. i thank you for bringing this to my attention.

yeah this one is sounding good. a 22-minute "Watusi"! also note the early (first existing?) version of "Space Is The Place"

oh FFS I just screwed up the playlist order. Karl can you revert it somehow?

it's now sorted by "Date Added" instead of our meticulous curating

I was trying to make the damn album title field wider and sorted by album name instead :(

uh oh!

hmm...it still looks correct on my Spotify! Starts with I Am Strange and I Am and Instrument, ends with Untitled Synthesizer Solo from the Paris Tapes

oh good! anyone else, let us know if there are issues

god, the end of discipline 27 here reminds me so much of "brakhage" by stereolab

not sure whether or not it's a coincidence

this concert is a jam, is this the pre-mitotic d27?

Keeping in mind that it's not the only time they have borrowed from Mr. Blount, it is really too close to be a coincidence.

1971 - Calling Planet Earth (Copenhagen 12/5/71)

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An obscurity that wasn’t released until 1998 as part of a 3CD set (covered upthread as this set is one of the only ways you can get/hear Outer Spaceways Inc and Spaceways), and also as an individual CD and 2015 LP.

This is the first one in a significant run of albums that are NOT on Spotify or Bandcamp, and not even really on Youtube from what I can find. Here’s the one track that was available:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aBETuLd92M

That’s all I got this time around, I’ll be back tomorrow with more unavailable recordings!

1971 - The Egypt recordings (December 12th, 16th, and 17th of 1971): Dark Myth Equation Visitation a.k.a Nature’s God LP, Nidhamu LP, and Horizon LP

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Legendary Cairo recordings made at Hartmut Geerken’s house, from a TV broadcast, and from two nights at the Ballon Theater. Specific details are in the liner notes of the DIscogs listings. The Szwed book goes into some detail which I will excerpt here:

“When they finished the Copenhagen concert on December 5 they decided at the last minute to go to Egypt instead of straight back to New York. Sun Ra sold some concert tape to Black Lion records (see upthread for the tortured history of these tapes, which are still missing) and they left on December 7, not knowing anyone in Egypt and not sure of where they would stay or how they would pay for it. […] With the help of Hartmut Geerken, a writer and free musician who was teaching at the Goethe Institute in Cairo, the Arkestra cobbled together a kind of local mini-tour. […] They intended to stay only a few days, but as usual it turned into two weeks […].”

In the end, band members had to sell their personal items to get the tickets back home.

Originally released as three albums on Saturn during 1972-73 and sporadically repressed through the 70s with a variety of increasingly-sketchy handmade covers. View the Discogs master releases on the 1st pressing links below to see all variants. My favorites are included above. These were mysterious rare artifacts until the CD reissues a decade ago, some pressings had no liner notes at all and some (iirc) miscredited the location of the recording as Holland.

Dark Myth Equation Visitation (Live In Egypt Vol. 1)
Nidhamu (Live In Egypt Vol. II)
Horizon

It looks like Recommended did some distribution of Horizon represses (or deadstock) in the 80s (more on that when we get there), and Art Yard reissued all of these as CDs in the late 2000s:

double CD of Dark Myth and Nidhamu, minus the interview on the original Dark Myth LP
single CD of Horizon with extra material

As usual for the Art Yard reissues, there are no digital rights in the US. Correspondingly, none of these are on Spotify or Bandcamp. It looks like a massive 5LP box set is (was?) scheduled for June of 2020 Record Store Day:

https://www.roughtrade.com/us/sun-ra/cairo-1971

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Here are some scattered Youtube links:

“To Nature’s God” from Dark Myth:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwohk4ZT4R0

“Nidhamu” from Nidhamu:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dydQDMOfRQ&list=RD7dydQDMOfRQ&start_radio=1

and the entire expanded “Horizon” CD on Strut:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRzB5FFaRRE

This brings us to the end of 1971, and I leave you with this astonishing 1971 video footage from Egypt and Italy originally shot by band member Tommy Hunter, courtesy of the internet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5azChH6Z7QA

and a 1971 interview from Helsinki that should have been posted with Calling All Planets yesterday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMMWNwVhq5k

damn, that "Nidhamu" link is already broken

I listened to Horizon this morning but wasn't really feeling it

here's a different link for "Nidhamu"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dydQDMOfRQ

i want that egypt box sooooo bad

$86 is a pretty good deal for 5 LPs these days!

no kidding

1971 - France, 1/8/72 "Jazz Session"

Weekend bonus viewing, video shot in France on their way back home from Egypt:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guQUde8MOyc

oops that should read 1972, my bad