Is Eric Clapton a racist?

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Today is the first day of the rest of your life, Matt. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Oh wait...

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 22 May 2008 20:57 (fifteen years ago) link

just to be clear airports the liberal laugh riot comes from the obv fact that having black friends in no way precludes one from being a racist and to display proof of black friends in defense against racism charges absurdly illustrates ones lack of understanding of racism altogether thereby fanning racism suspicions

jhøshea, Thursday, 22 May 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link

my wife's family is friends with an australian family who are very nice and friendly folks but the dad is racist as fuck. he always talks about enoch powell. so i guess i would be suspicious of clapton on those grounds.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link

if trolls could fly ...

deej, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link

good job of hiding the strings holding up his smile

Granny Dainger, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:08 (fifteen years ago) link

having black friends in no way precludes one from being a racist

I agree with this

to display proof of black friends in defense against racism charges absurdly illustrates ones lack of understanding of racism altogether thereby fanning racism suspicions

but not neccessarily with this. How does it 'absurdly illustate' anything if it's true? I mean, unless you're leading a double life, I don't think this is an altogether 'ridiculous' defense against racism, especially if the person accusing you of racism has never even met a non white person themselves. Kinda hard to be a seething, frothing racist loonie if your best buddies on your bowling team are all black, no?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link

Is that really what Enoch Powell looks like?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Not all racists are seething, frothing loonies, is the point being made here.

HI DERE, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:10 (fifteen years ago) link

Powell was castigated as an extremist by senior figures in the Conservative Party. This is the same party that less than 5 years earlier had fought a by-election with the slogan "If You Want a Nigger for Your Neighbour, Vote Labour".

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link

^shut the fuck up!! is that true? woah x 1000000

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link

if having black friends in no way precludes one from being a racist then having black friends is a fallacious defense against racism charges

see

jhøshea, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:13 (fifteen years ago) link

Smethwick By-Election, 1964

xp

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link

1+1 may equal two, but whats wrong with saying it equals three?

deej, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:17 (fifteen years ago) link

rivers of blood http://youtube.com/watch?v=zMTndhA21O0

pretty interesting - never heard of this guy before

jhøshea, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:31 (fifteen years ago) link

So, wait...

if having black friends in no way precludes one from being a racist then having black friends is a fallacious defense against racism charges

It seems to me that the reason the "But I have black friends!" defense works in some peoples' minds is that they can point and say "I hate those people, and they happen to be black. I don't hate them BECAUSE they're black, per Exhibit 1 - My Black Friends." This makes some sense to me.

Now, this is entirely different to me than a person who tries to defend themselves as not racist, despite undeniably racist behavior, by pointing to people who they regard as their friends who are black.

B.L.A.M., Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:39 (fifteen years ago) link

pretty interesting - never heard of this guy before

-- jhøshea, Thursday, 22 May 2008 22:31 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

64% of British people don't believe that Powell, specifically the Rivers of Blood speech, was racist.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

And also - what is black, anyway? Chuck D.? Morgan Freeman? Janet Jackson? Mahalia Jackson? Kofe Annan? Joe Morgan? Toni Morrison? Mariah Carey? Tyler Perry? Peter Tosh? Pele? Kimbo Slice?

B.L.A.M., Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:42 (fifteen years ago) link

what are you going on about

The Brainwasher, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Victor Wooten? Paul Robeson?

B.L.A.M., Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

I'm just being stupid. My bad.

B.L.A.M., Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

And also - what is black, anyway? Chuck D.? Morgan Freeman? Janet Jackson? Mahalia Jackson? Kofe Annan? Joe Morgan? Toni Morrison? Mariah Carey? Tyler Perry? Peter Tosh? Pele? Kimbo Slice?

-- B.L.A.M., Thursday, 22 May 2008 22:42 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

Poll.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:44 (fifteen years ago) link

keep in mind, powell was a pre-eminent classical scholar, and wrote books about roman history and latin in his adult life.
therefore, he can't be racist or foolish.

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

ha many xposts

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

i know this so i point at q-tip and he says...

ha many xposts

PappaWheelie V, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

ha many xposts must get dissed?

PappaWheelie V, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:47 (fifteen years ago) link

lol

jhøshea, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Powell was a graduate of SOAS! That shit always surprises me.

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

you guys are all ingorant when god makes a cd than you would not even feel his gory

Niblick Painting Escarole, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:49 (fifteen years ago) link

spark it up dom srsly

deeznuts, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I am not the best speller sorry I am not like god shining on his licks

Niblick Painting Escarole, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:50 (fifteen years ago) link

Powell was a graduate of SOAS! That shit always surprises me

Powell and a lot of his acolytes liked to pull that "racialist not racist" sleight-of-hand tho don't they.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:52 (fifteen years ago) link

what is black black baby dont hurt me

deeznuts, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:53 (fifteen years ago) link

lol i srsly until just now thought racialist was a hilarious term invented by ali g

jhøshea, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:54 (fifteen years ago) link

It's even more hilarious when people use it to defend themselves against accusations of being racist.

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:56 (fifteen years ago) link

what is black, anyway?

HI DERE, Thursday, 22 May 2008 21:57 (fifteen years ago) link

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woah @ image of dan perry fucking eric clapton's eyes

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Pleasant Plains, Thursday, 22 May 2008 22:00 (fifteen years ago) link

what was your best clapton concert. dvd was mine!!!

Niblick Painting Escarole, Thursday, 22 May 2008 22:02 (fifteen years ago) link

As well as his education at Cambridge, Powell took a course in Urdu at the School of Oriental Studies, now the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London, because he felt that his long-cherished ambition of becoming Viceroy of India would be unattainable without knowledge of an Indian language

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 22 May 2008 22:08 (fifteen years ago) link

http://viceroyofindia.com/

HI DERE, Thursday, 22 May 2008 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

xp
that was in the 1930s, sos was set up in 1916. clearly its purpose was somewhat different in those days.

Frogman Henry, Thursday, 22 May 2008 22:10 (fifteen years ago) link

OK, can't be bothered to scroll through all of this, is Geir involved anywhere?

Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 23 May 2008 10:25 (fifteen years ago) link

Not until now, but as I seem to recall, Eric Clapton had some rather violent anti-immigration views back in the late 70s, which may make him a racist. Because of his views, not because he is white and has a largely white audience.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 23 May 2008 10:34 (fifteen years ago) link

the black friends = not a racist thing makes no sense. i know people MARRIED to people of other races who are still racist against that person's race.

titchyschneiderMk2, Friday, 23 May 2008 11:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Or even more against other races or cultures than their wives', I guess. Several of the people here who hate Muslim immigrants the most have imported wives from East Asia (Phillippines, Thailand)

Geir Hongro, Friday, 23 May 2008 12:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I DEMAND YOU NAME THE MUSLIM-HATING ILXORS WITH MAIL-ORDER BRIDES RIGHT NOW, GEIR

Noodle Vague, Friday, 23 May 2008 12:28 (fifteen years ago) link

Here=Norway

Geir Hongro, Friday, 23 May 2008 12:32 (fifteen years ago) link

(OK, I laffed)

Mark G, Friday, 23 May 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link

I can understand that it may have been possible to interpret wrongly though.

Geir Hongro, Friday, 23 May 2008 12:34 (fifteen years ago) link

i know people MARRIED to people of other races who are still racist against that person's race.

Perhaps your definition of racism is a little too sensitive? I mean, don't white people who get married to Chinese people get to finally admit that Chinese people totally rock at doing math? Is that the kind of "racism" we're talking about here?

If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Friday, 23 May 2008 12:41 (fifteen years ago) link


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