Faust: C or D?

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I e-bowed along quite merrily.

20 minutes shorter would have been better, yes.

PJ Miller, Tuesday, 5 June 2007 16:59 (sixteen years ago) link

one month passes...

I'm listening to 71 Minutes for the first time right now, and I'm "Knockhentanz" is as good as anything else they've done.

I'm filling in at a friend's record store today, and people keep walking in during songs like "Don't Take Roots" (a meandering 5 minutes of moaning and feedback) and rolling their eyes at me, buy Icky Thump and Funeral, and then on the way out the door I can hear them say "God!" to their girlfriends. Then, as soon as the customer leaves and the store's empty again, the feedback dissolves and it's back to Faust-style accessibility.

I'm enjoying this more than Faust/So Far/IV/etc right now.

Z S, Sunday, 8 July 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

new faust is pretty good!

eman, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:55 (fifteen years ago) link

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51t4Nxtbz3L._SS420_.jpg

eman, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 00:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Which Faust line-up is it?

Boring Sign In Name (Herman G. Neuname), Wednesday, 11 February 2009 01:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Hamburg-based Krautrock outfit Faust has returned from a creative kosmische aether, bringing with them a new studio album C’est com…com…compliqué due out April 13 on the Bureau B label. According to group member Jean-Hervé Peron's website www.art-errorist.de, the album was recorded in Hamburg during 2006 by producer Tobias Levin, and joining original members Peron and Werner “Zappi” Diermaier was Amaury Cambuzat of French post-rock group Ulan Bator (who first toured with Faust in 1996 as Collectif Metz/Faust, a project which also produced an eponymous album).

eman, Wednesday, 11 February 2009 16:20 (fifteen years ago) link

I watched the ending about four times

Milton Parker, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:01 (fifteen years ago) link

urgent request for .gif loop of 4:56 - 5:05

Milton Parker, Friday, 13 February 2009 20:09 (fifteen years ago) link

:D

eman, Friday, 13 February 2009 23:59 (fifteen years ago) link

lol I didn't even know about the deluxe IV! Guess who's going to be shopping online in a few seconds (possibly to find out I'm SOL)?

System Jr. (Mackro Mackro), Saturday, 14 February 2009 02:46 (fifteen years ago) link

seven months pass...

What about Faust Wakes Nosferatu? Their 1997 live interpretation of the "Nosferatu" film.

Listening to it now and I like it, even on its own. I don't know if having the film playing alongside would improve it.

What does anyone reckon to this one? Have I missed discussion anywhere?

krakow, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 22:08 (fourteen years ago) link

What can I expect if I go see them in Detroit next week?

[All I've ever heard is 71 Minutes]

peepee, Thursday, 1 October 2009 01:04 (fourteen years ago) link

What about Faust Wakes Nosferatu? Their 1997 live interpretation of the "Nosferatu" film.

I once tried watching the film with this playing in the background, but it goes "out of synch" fairly quickly... so back to he "Wizard of Oz" and "Dark Side of the Moon" for me

The Prince's choice: making a brush. (Tom D.), Thursday, 1 October 2009 09:17 (fourteen years ago) link

What can you expect? The only (and not very helpful) answer is to expect the unexpected.

When I last saw them about 3 years ago, it felt at times like me and my friends were the only people there who weren't somehow in on what was going on; like some odd Krautrock Truman Show. They got some "random" girls in the audience to join in on vocals, and they somehow knew all the words (I think they turned out to be The Pipettes), they made some guy in the audience take his shirt off to have it ironed onstage as part of a song ("zis is not rock and roll, zis is ironing!!" IIRC), at one point a brass band appeared through the main door of the venue, joined in on a song and then left again.

Terrific fun, and largely documented on this set:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Autumn-Faust/dp/B000MGVA1U/ref=sr_1_18?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1254390085&sr=1-18

(Amazon reviewer hated it, maybe you had to be there.)

The time before that, someone climbed up some stepladders and through rocks into a mic-ed up tin bath full of flaming materials. I thought it was hilarious, but it was generally responded to with chin-stroking solemnity by everyone around me.

Officer Pupp, Thursday, 1 October 2009 09:43 (fourteen years ago) link

*threw

Officer Pupp, Thursday, 1 October 2009 09:44 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

http://www.klangbad.de/xtc/images/product_images/popup_images/125_0.jpg

am0n, Sunday, 24 October 2010 03:36 (thirteen years ago) link

this is really good, probably the best i've heard of their late period

am0n, Sunday, 24 October 2010 23:27 (thirteen years ago) link

"faust is last" is definitely the best of the releases where irmler seems to have control. "ravvivando" just seemed messy but this one has some great moments and is definitely better than the peron / zappi faust on "c'est complique". but "disconnected" is really great (even if that seems to be mostly due to NWW).

nonightsweats, Monday, 25 October 2010 00:52 (thirteen years ago) link

I see I killed this thread for a year. I can't help but wonder whether PeePee went to the gig and what they thought.

Officer Pupp, Monday, 25 October 2010 13:07 (thirteen years ago) link

I dunno if I'm a fan of the "Faust is Last" album; sadly it would have been better if they had trimmed it by about a half hour. Because both discs have some great pieces along with a lot of interchangable material. Ravvivando is still the post-reformation group's high water mark.

frogbs, Monday, 25 October 2010 18:09 (thirteen years ago) link

I heard C Pluus off of You Know Us...I thought that was really good.

scaruffi kaleidoscope (Drugs A. Money), Monday, 25 October 2010 21:27 (thirteen years ago) link

frogbullshit

am0n, Monday, 25 October 2010 21:48 (thirteen years ago) link

do you disagree??? I run a review site here where I have reviewed all of Fausts albums:
http://www.listology.com/jamool/story/faust

IMO the problem with Faust's recent albums is that their primary songwriter died before the reunion and they never really bothered to replace them or attempt to write songs themselves. Not that they are song-based but without them their newer albums tend to be kind of monotonous. Not bad, but just kind of gray and stark.

frogbs, Monday, 25 October 2010 22:13 (thirteen years ago) link

one year passes...

how are Faust live these days? "They" are playing here in a short while, with Jean-Herve. I think I want to go.

Aceveda (admrl), Monday, 20 August 2012 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

i've seen them twice and enjoyed them both times. One was more of a 'best-of' set, which was super awesome, the second one was more leaning towards a commune hippy jam, but still good.

emil.y, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 00:07 (eleven years ago) link

Jean-Herve generally keeps things song-oriented IIRC; I've never seen 'em, but I've heard some of their live albums with him and they're a pretty good mix of long industrial jams and their good song-oriented 70's material

frogbs, Tuesday, 21 August 2012 14:03 (eleven years ago) link

one month passes...

Dear Faust fans,

We're getting ready for Friday and our tech director just showed us his "Faust Procurement Checklist." There's a couple firsts for us on here, so we wanted to give you a sneak peak at what you have to look forward to:

Faust Procurement Checklist
1 Cement Mixer, 1 Demolition Hammer, 2 Angle Grinders, 3 Large Canvasses, 55 Gallon Drumm, 2 four-by-eight Sheets of Styrofoam, 2 Sledge Hammers & One Sacrificial Piano

P.S. We also need a 12" (or smaller) Gas-Powered Chain Saw for the night. If you can loan us one, we will set aside a pair of tickets for you to stay for the 11 PM performance and watch Faust "play" your chain saw!

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 19 October 2012 07:26 (eleven years ago) link

has anyone seen them recently

puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 19 October 2012 07:27 (eleven years ago) link

They did two shows in Seattle, Mon & Tue. I went to the Monday show. I still can't believe I saw that show.
I can cross Long Hair Raising Chainsaw On Stage Smiling off my rock n roll bingo sheet now.
<3 <3

ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Friday, 19 October 2012 08:53 (eleven years ago) link

which Faust is this

my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 19 October 2012 09:33 (eleven years ago) link

That piano got merked

Heyy M. United This Is Your Last 48 Hours 3-0 3-0 3-0 (admrl), Sunday, 21 October 2012 00:23 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNcprgc5NuQ

Elvis Telecom, Sunday, 21 October 2012 00:34 (eleven years ago) link

I described this show to my wife as "like watching a happy and newly crawling baby tear up someone else's living room"

Heyy M. United This Is Your Last 48 Hours 3-0 3-0 3-0 (admrl), Sunday, 21 October 2012 00:35 (eleven years ago) link

ALso Geraldine Swayne is the "Geraldine" in the Gallon Drunk song of the same name, yes? Would have been rad if James Johnston was there too.

Heyy M. United This Is Your Last 48 Hours 3-0 3-0 3-0 (admrl), Sunday, 21 October 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link

eleven months pass...

I scored a very clean original vinyl pressing of IV at a record fair today in Brooklyn, and I'm playing it right now at high volume. It is completely FLOORING me. This is a record I've known for years, but I'm feeling like like I've never heard it before. I owned the old CD version of it, which had always struck me as a little polite and flat sounding, but that's how I knew the record. This is anything but.

I've also been dipping my toes into Zappa lately, especially digging his fusion-y early '70s stuff like Grand Wazoo and Waka/Jawaka but also things like Uncle Meat--and this Faust is certainly mining some of that, in such a great way. Maybe I've just never been "ready" for this sound before. I feel like Faust never clicked with me when I was young the way Neu! and Can and Harmonia and stuff did; they always seemed more inaccessibl proggy, sweatier, more coated in '70s mud. Now that's what I want and crave, and man is this album doing it for me. This record is making me think of just how silly the premise that recent "prog vs. krautrock" showdown truly was.

Clarke B., Sunday, 6 October 2013 01:26 (ten years ago) link

I got my copy (of IV) in Dec 1981 from a Zappa fan's collection, for the price of a pizza. already a fan from borrowing it, I jumped at the chance when the hungry Zappa fan made me the offer!

Paul, Sunday, 6 October 2013 04:36 (ten years ago) link

Has anybody come across any genuine live material by the band from its original incarnation?
I thin there was supposed to be a '73 live set shared with Henry Cow but I don't think the d/ld was still active also not sure if it was necessarily actually valid anyway.

Stevolende, Sunday, 6 October 2013 13:42 (ten years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op6FRZGo4ek

am0n, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:13 (eight years ago) link

playing with NWW and Cut Hands on Dec. 5th in London...

sleeve, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:16 (eight years ago) link

damn!

am0n, Friday, 30 October 2015 18:24 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

in the flesh: faust sat next to me at a hipster vietnamese spot in bushwick last night. then they fucking leveled market hotel. amazing band.

adam, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 12:47 (eight years ago) link

goddamn right they did!

veronica moser, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 14:10 (eight years ago) link

the SF show was wonderful. huge expanded band of local musicians. I did not enjoy the 1994 SF show, but maybe my expectations were too high for that first reunion or I was too close to my high school obsession with their 70s records; this time around I was just a lot more grateful to see them. huge expanded band of local musicians including a brass band and chorus situated about the crowd. no pre-reformation material, but lots of 'munic & elsewhere' / 'outside the dream syndicate'-esque 2/4 stompers. all much better live than the recent albums.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:07 (eight years ago) link

argh proofread before posting

70s albums have been on iPod for the first time in years since the show. what a band.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link

Whoa. Got tickets to the Louisville show since I couldn't make Big Ears --- reading this, now I'm even more excited.

dronestreet, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 18:19 (eight years ago) link

oh man, sorry I missed them. What is the touring Faust lineup?

Dominique, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link

this was 'faUSt' (Peron & Zappi & ersatz cavalcade)

Irmler seems to have been concentrating on other various collaborations since the other two have ramped up recording and touring with the band name again. his records with Gudrun Gut and Jaki Liebezeit both have a bit more freedom to them than what he was calling Faust.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 18:54 (eight years ago) link

what name is that Liebezeit collab under, and what is album title?

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

i didn't enjoy faust in sf as much as milton but my experienced was probably dampened by seeing magma the night before

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link

I missed Magma this time, but... Magma is currently one of the best touring bands in the entire known galaxy so... saw them in 2010 and 2014, and I hear the new guys they've added since last year's show are insane.

Milton Parker, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link


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