I guess you can control what you touch at self-check-in, then wash your hands - a cashier otoh will touch all of your shopping.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 16 March 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link
I never use self-checkout, in the spirit of "I don't fucking work here"
― brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Monday, 16 March 2020 12:23 (four years ago) link
my man
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 16 March 2020 12:29 (four years ago) link
I phoned my parents last night and felt a bit better that they are at least taking things seriously, cutting down on social activities and considering the risks to them and to more vulnerable attendees. some will say they should lock down more but there's a tradeoff and maybe in the end preserving some chipper-ness and quality of life is as important as taking every last fallible measure to keep it at the door
(totally patronising paragraph considering that out of a) staying as safe as possible in the circumstances vs b) staying as sane and cheerful as possible in the circumstances, it has to be said I'm falling well short of either)
I had thought they were safer there than my area might be and had worried about bringing germs to them, but the family 2 doors down have something bad and flu-like but couldn't get tested even though the daughter goes to school in an area with a known outbreak. fingers crossed for the family, but also worrying how long/strictly people who haven't been formally diagnosed will quarantine themselves once symptoms reduce...
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 16 March 2020 12:29 (four years ago) link
I don't use the self check out because people have meltdowns in front of them and I don't like that.
― Yerac, Monday, 16 March 2020 12:29 (four years ago) link
(xp, sorry for monologuing to myself here after complaining about my colleague's monologue, ha)
meanwhile the o/h's dad + his new wife are still planning to go ahead with trips to Europe over the next few months, which seems... not great? the ferry for trip #1 was cancelled because it would've gone on from France to Spain and Spain isn't accepting ferries - so he just rebooked a different one even though we told him France was going into lockdown too and maybe he should leave it and claim on the insurance!
<grumbling about the generation which can afford to go on holiday constantly not wanting to be kept from its constant holidaying> <ok, not fair, stop it spacecadet>
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 16 March 2020 12:31 (four years ago) link
I can't use the self checkout at Target because those cameras make me look like a cadaver
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 16 March 2020 12:41 (four years ago) link
No, under the circumstances that's very fair!
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 16 March 2020 12:42 (four years ago) link
A bit of 'levity':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcr83km7m5U
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 16 March 2020 13:01 (four years ago) link
lol the joys of working from home... trying to set up a call with multiple colleagues, one said he'd call us using teams, the other said teams didn't work on his laptop so could we use skype, to which a third said the same about skype, so how about we do the call on whatsapp
― Jibe, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:04 (four years ago) link
I'm already dreading negotiating the VPN at home, especially as my internet connection fluctuates in speed a lot
― brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Monday, 16 March 2020 13:06 (four years ago) link
done a big shop at the local cornerstore. if there's one thing I went a bit ham on it wasn't toilet paper, it was Oreos
― strangely hookworm but they manage ream shoegaze poetry (imago), Monday, 16 March 2020 13:12 (four years ago) link
Very glad I'm on fibre optic cable rather than some flaky DSL connection.
Also utterly blessed in having a back garden as spring arrives.
― Alba, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:16 (four years ago) link
I think it's fair to predict that most cities will "shutdown," since that's what's happening. But shutdown does not mean everyone is locked in their houses. Restaurants are closed for eating in, but many or most are open for take-out, drive-through or delivery. Libraries and gyms and the like are (or should be) closed, but you can still go outside. In fact, I highly recommend, especially as the weather gets better, at the very least going for walks. You will see other people doing the same, kids playing in their front yards, people riding bikes, walking dogs, doing work. It's good for the brain to be reminded that you're not alone, and that life might be weird but goes on, at least in some form. And it feels good to get some sun on your face, too.
Things I would *not* do right now include traveling, especially to other countries, not because it is not safe, necessarily, but because I think the likelihood of getting stuck there is very high. And speaking of the gym, I know a couple of people that have continued going, but I have a feeling the right decision will be made for them imminently.
Heard Pennsylvania state liquor stores are closing, btw. That seems bad.
Talked to a friend yesterday, and she told me her sister, a nurse at the closest hospital, is already seeing an influx of infected patients. Oh, and had a great talk with my mom, who I have been speaking with daily. She's old enough to remember the "Asian flu" of 1957, which she (and a bazillion people) got, and which kept her home from school for a few days with what she remembers was the worse runny nose she's ever had. (I guess she was around ... 12 or so?). But she also told me about the flu pandemic of 1968, which she remembers inspiring more panic, because lines of communication were already much better by then. That late '60s outbreak she recalls is the one that eventually got everybody congregating in gyms for mandatory shots. Fwiw, it killed an estimated 1 million people worldwide, 100,000k in America. Sounds bad and is not good, but only bringing that up because despite that I don't think I've ever heard anyone say anything about the 1968 pandemic, ever. These things happen and these things eventually pass.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:17 (four years ago) link
the other said teams didn't work on his laptop so could we use skype
been lots of problems with teams today:
https://venturebeat.com/2020/03/16/microsoft-teams-struggles-as-coronavirus-pushes-millions-to-work-from-home/
― ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, 16 March 2020 13:18 (four years ago) link
I've got a head temperature of 96.0 which according to google may be a sign of hypothermia! I've proven the thermometer by testing it on my son who is a very normal 98.4. Although an ear reading was up to 96.8 - maybe I'm not going to die just yet and just am an abnormally cold blooded mofo!
― calzino, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:37 (four years ago) link
lol I think I did read something about average temperatures trending down, for some reason.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:39 (four years ago) link
I've been taking my temperature daily (and read the same thing), which is probably a stupid thing to do--the very definition of looking for an excuse to panic.
― clemenza, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:40 (four years ago) link
I went to the large grocery store to see if they got back in stock one of our must items (they didn't) and it seems that people are finally hoarding here. It's Monday morning and I have never seen it that busy or the shelves so empty. I felt obligated to get a 4 pack of toilet paper.
― Yerac, Monday, 16 March 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link
the other said teams didn't work on his laptop so could we use skypebeen lots of problems with teams today:https://venturebeat.com/2020/03/16/microsoft-teams-struggles-as-coronavirus-pushes-millions-to-work-from-home/― ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, March 16, 2020 9:18 AM (forty minutes ago)
― ymo sumac (NickB), Monday, March 16, 2020 9:18 AM (forty minutes ago)
Also:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_cImRzKXOs
― Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:00 (four years ago) link
the website that our kids are supposed today, by the Académie de Paris, is overloaded and not loading for anyone. it's fine, give everyone a week to figure things out, slow down, we're really not in a hurry w/ this whole online school thing.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:04 (four years ago) link
my forehead temperature is apparently under 35 so the forehead strip thermometer I bought which starts at 36 is no use.
(is this bad? it's been the case for both me and the bf for 10 days and we feel fine, more or less. we are middle-aged and the internet does note that your forehead temperature decreases with age, though the articles are mainly about elderly people, which we would like to insist we are not!)
I've started using a general-purpose IR thermometer on forehead and back of throat every day or two, since I figure all I can do is check it's staying level, but if it does go up by a few degrees then I'll still only have a "normal" temperature, so hopefully I won't need to urgently convince any medical professionals that I have a fever at that point
― a passing spacecadet, Monday, 16 March 2020 14:08 (four years ago) link
I should add that my oldest daughter, in classe préparatoire, has had online classes since 8h this morning, but her teachers are using zoom rather than something proprietary.
― Joey Corona (Euler), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link
fuck, that video is intense. i guess we're going in.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link
The management of my office building just closed the fitness center until further notice. My only issue is that I lugged my exercise clothes in on the bus today (and I won't be seeing Nick, but I tell myself I'm probably better off without him). Oh, well.
Considering treating myself to a restaurant meal (dine-in) on the assumption that any places that haven't yet pivoted to take-out only will do so in the near future. And near where I live there's a German place that gets so little visible traffic that I sometimes wonder how they survive. I wouldn't be surprised if it or other little neighborhood businesses don't survive the pandemic.
Also wondering what happens to bandwidth when kids start distance learning.
There were already reports of households being unable to access remote learning sites.
― Life is a banquet and my invitation was lost in the mail (j.lu), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link
welp someone in my office officially tested positive. first of many, no doubt
― mookieproof, Monday, 16 March 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link
trying to work from home while facilitating 2 kids doing "remote/distance learning" and 1 pre-K kid just cruising in boredom is god tier difficulty level
― Mordy, Monday, 16 March 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link
Well, I was overyjoyed that my job finally authorized working from home, but it looks like the VPN connection is overwhelmed, so I'll probably have to go in anyway (or use a sick day). At least I took my time and made cornbread this morning.
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:24 (four years ago) link
What's the obsession with VPNs, do you all work for spy agencies?
― Not a dancer by any traditional definition (Noel Emits), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link
It's absolutely not necessary for this job/industry imho.
― brechtian social distancing (Simon H.), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
I mean in public WiFi of course. Maybe companies just like to think that they are important enough to be a target of sophisticated espionage.
― Not a dancer by any traditional definition (Noel Emits), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
no noel i work for a healthcare organization dealing with protected health information, how on earth would I be able to do my job over an insecure connection?
― Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:57 (four years ago) link
When I worked for a big publishing org we had to have VPN with a stupid passcode key dongle that changed every minute, just to access the company records and the purchase ordering system. Which I mean I guess that's sensitive stuff but also what's a hacker going to do, order an extra 5000 Joyce Meyer reprint?
― There's more Italy than necessary. (in orbit), Monday, 16 March 2020 14:59 (four years ago) link
interesting interview here from german virologist handling cases there, mentions diarrhoea being a common symptom which I've not heard elsewhere
https://www.faz.net/aktuell/gesellschaft/gesundheit/coronavirus/virologe-hendrik-streeck-ueber-corona-neue-symptome-entdeckt-16681450.html
I got a p intense, slightly mysterious flu w/ diarrhoea in early february after coming back from amsterdam, wonder if there's any chance I was an early case?
― ogmor, Monday, 16 March 2020 15:06 (four years ago) link
Hmm… I thought it wasn't, hence all the jokes about how stockpiling TP makes it seem like a cholera pandemic is unfolding as we speak.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link
There was a very good thing in the NYT (I think covid stuff is free to read, not linking it so I don't stress people out) about two chinese women doctors in their early 30s who had it and it described their different progressions. Diarrhea and vomiting were symptoms.
― Yerac, Monday, 16 March 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link
Same
― change display name (Jordan), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link
From what I read, diarrhea is a possible symptom, but not a common one.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 March 2020 15:13 (four years ago) link
he's saying 1/3 of the cases in germany have diarrhoea. diarrhoea and flu is an odd combo generally, no?
― ogmor, Monday, 16 March 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link
3.7% of cases involved diarrhoea according to Wikipedia.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link
Worldwide, that is. Data comes from the WHO.
Just looked, and if some 88% of people get a fever, supposedly only 4% get cloudy with a chance of diarrhea. Maybe data is changing?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 16 March 2020 15:16 (four years ago) link
At work this morning we were told, even if we close the building to the public, we'll still have to come into work while they think up stuff for us to do. Also, the entire organization has run out of hand sanitizer and some of us have to pass material back and forth to the public all day.
― God gave toilets rolls to you, gave toilet rolls to you (Tom D.), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:17 (four years ago) link
Yes, it's the UK, folks!
― God gave toilets rolls to you, gave toilet rolls to you (Tom D.), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link
Not to worry, you'll have the last laugh as Britons are about to develop a super-herd immunity that will be the envy of foreign nations the world over.
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:20 (four years ago) link
Made in Scotland, from girders.
― God gave toilets rolls to you, gave toilet rolls to you (Tom D.), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:21 (four years ago) link
Too bad Sears Sears catalogs aren't still ubiquitous
― love will keep us apart (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link
Gonna be striding around empty Italian tourist destinations with my super-Brit immunity radiating off me like a glow.
Not like these dickheads in Spain nb:
Outrageous the behavior of #British tourists in #Benidorm, amid the #coronavirus pandemic. Is somebody going to do something? @BBCnews @BorisJohnson @interiorgob @sanchezcastejon pic.twitter.com/bcv9enh3wo— Maria Lluïsa Vivó (@mllvivo) March 15, 2020
― stet, Monday, 16 March 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link
wtf I love martial law now
― romanesque architect (pomenitul), Monday, 16 March 2020 15:26 (four years ago) link
many xps here:
I think a lot of large corporations have a VPN because traditionally, having all your shit on the intranet was the way things went. And companies are slow to change.
― mh, Monday, 16 March 2020 15:47 (four years ago) link