idk I thought the ones I listed were all over the place time-wise. The one we just read (Flight 714) is one of the last ones - ends with a totally nonsensical deus ex machina after a bunch of convoluted capture/rescue/shootout sequences with too many characters
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:43 (four years ago) link
yeah I loved that one as a kid. You’re probably right.
― brimstead, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link
Flight 714 rules fuiud
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:44 (four years ago) link
Besides the racism, the other obvious issue is that Tintin is a child doing an adult job.
― gramsci in your surplice (gyac), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link
it just feels like none of his stuff follows any kind of standard narrative structure - there's no themes, no sense of pacing the action, no building-to-a-climax, no real resolution, a lot of these stories feel like just a lot of random stuff that happens as an excuse to draw Tintin in a jungle, or a desert, or in a submarine or whatever.
xps
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link
Tintin is a child doing an adult job.
haha yeah is this ever given any kind of explanation? I feel like after having read a lot of these I should have some grasp of where the character comes from and why he's in the position he's in and yet... like, where is his family? is he an orphan? Does he have a job (sometimes he appears to be a reporter, for some reason)? Why does he do any of the shit he does?
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:50 (four years ago) link
and don't say "it's for children, who cares!" Uncle Scrooge's motivations and defining characteristics, as a counter-example, are crystal clear. Even Little Nemo is based on a premise that serves to explain all the nonsense.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:52 (four years ago) link
fwiw when i love comics did a poll like 15 years ago tintin ranked no. 1!
tintin himself is kind of a strange character -- not just ageless but kind of without any real personality at all, he's more like a stand-in for the reader than anything
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:53 (four years ago) link
yeah it's v weird, he's a nullity
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 March 2020 17:59 (four years ago) link
which is by intention, I would think.
Herge himself seems to have been something of an empty vessel*, who also started his life's career as a school-aged teenager.
* he married a coworker on the orders of their boss, who kept a portrait of Mussolini in the office and conducted the wedding ceremony
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Thursday, 12 March 2020 18:53 (four years ago) link
The reason Tintin is a kid doing an adults job is because the strip was originally about teaching kids about the world. It was a newspaper strip in the kid section of a right-wing newspaper, and was just meant to indoctrinate about Soviet, Congo, US, etc.
It never really moved beyond that serialized mentality. Every page is it's own thing, and yeah, a lot of it is bad excuses for pretty drawings. That was indeed the point.
― Frederik B, Friday, 13 March 2020 08:09 (four years ago) link
Britney Spears is a Republican.
― rusted (crüt), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 15:14 (four years ago) link
In the 1991 Nardwuar vs Sonic Youth interview, Nardwuar was the bully and SY were within their rights to lash out.
― Sund4r, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:18 (four years ago) link
I have no idea what anybody finds amusing about that terrible terrible cunt
― A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:21 (four years ago) link
^^ otfm. Baffled by the love for him. I don't get the "nardwuar is a national treasure he may not die!" but I'm guessing it's one of those #lolUSA things I'm better off not understanding anyway (yes, I know he's Canadian).
― Hey, let me drunkenly animate yr boats in about 25 to 60 days! (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 11:52 (four years ago) link
I don't understand why everybody doesn't just headbutt the fucker and then kick him to death tbh
― A rat done bit my sister Nell with Biden on the nom (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 12:00 (four years ago) link
the man does research!
― ogmor, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 12:11 (four years ago) link
????????
― brimstead, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 18:10 (four years ago) link
#lolUSA
― brimstead, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 18:51 (four years ago) link
Films aren’t art.
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, September 25, 2019 8:42 AM (six months ago)
came here to post this again, oh well.
All my posts in this thread are good
― silby, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:22 (four years ago) link
Dance isn't art.
How am I doing?
― coco vide (pomenitul), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:24 (four years ago) link
could try harder
― silby, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:26 (four years ago) link
saying things aren't art is performance
― Evan, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:31 (four years ago) link
Saying it's performance to say things aren't art is performance.
― coco vide (pomenitul), Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:33 (four years ago) link
it's not art to say that saying it's performance to say things aren't art is performance
― Evan, Wednesday, 1 April 2020 20:36 (four years ago) link
Performance art is bad art
― Frederik B, Thursday, 2 April 2020 08:00 (four years ago) link
that famous dorothy parker dismissal of the winnie the pooh books is stupid and wrong and not even particularly clever ("tonstant weader fwowed up" or whatever)
i don't know if this is controversial but ppl love to quote that review for some reason
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:30 (three years ago) link
it's wrong but it's funny
― Elon's musk (sic), Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:38 (three years ago) link
the former never matters when the latter is true
― Flaneuring Bevan (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:39 (three years ago) link
otm
― kim rong un (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 May 2020 10:45 (three years ago) link
is it actually funny tho
― budo jeru, Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:42 (three years ago) link
kinda up to individual
winnie the pooh wont hit everyone the same way, neither will parker's zing of it, this seems a somewhat universal kind of phenomenon
― kim rong un (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link
it's wrong but it's funny― Elon's musk (sic), Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:38 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Elon's musk (sic), Thursday, May 7, 2020 11:38 AM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
otm, also new board description, etc.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 7 May 2020 11:45 (three years ago) link
J B Morton's put-downs of A A Milne were better, of which this is my fave:
Hush, hush,Nobody cares!Christopher RobinHasFallenDown-Stairs.
― fetter, Thursday, 7 May 2020 12:05 (three years ago) link
That is a good one.
― Angry Question Time Man's Flute Club Band (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 May 2020 12:08 (three years ago) link
the parker review wasn't of the books it was of a broadway adaptation
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:34 (three years ago) link
oh nevermind i misremembered. she mostly reviewed theater and i thought it was an adaptation she was reviewing but looking up the review i see it was of the book oops
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:36 (three years ago) link
fp
― spruce springclean (darraghmac), Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:42 (three years ago) link
I am a huge Dorothy stan but, she didn't have children. Her review of a children's book was then, and is now, an amusing footnote.
― Rodent of usual size (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:47 (three years ago) link
HOWEVER
when she (in her role as a theater reviewer) absolutely savaged an obviously treacly and stupid A.A. Milne play I was totally cool with it
― Rodent of usual size (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:48 (three years ago) link
i also remembered it being a theater adaptation she was reviewing (as i said above) but can only find a book review now. mandela effect :/
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:51 (three years ago) link
oh i see now she did review Milne's Give Me Yesterday
https://ochsnerblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/screen-shot-2020-03-23-at-10.10.54-am.png
― Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 14:54 (three years ago) link
https://ochsnerblog.files.wordpress.com/2020/03/screen-shot-2020-03-23-at-10.11.00-am.png
Yeah there's a bit where somebody is tapping out like rudimentary code for "I love you" and it's pretty cringey.
That said, the book review was out of line so I agree with J.D.
― Rodent of usual size (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:23 (three years ago) link
Does the New Yorker still review popular childrens' books?
― Feel a million filaments (Sund4r), Thursday, 7 May 2020 15:28 (three years ago) link
nah
― mom tossed in kimchee (quincie), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:52 (three years ago) link
oh btw i like dorothy parker! her short stories were cool. she just probably wasn't the target audience for the gently paced adventures of a group of neurotic stuffed animals.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 8 May 2020 07:16 (three years ago) link
I think the time has probably come for everyone to quit it with the (((twitter names))) - the point has been made now.
― Wuhan!! Got You All in Check (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 May 2020 22:12 (three years ago) link
the time was immediately after people tried to start doing it as some sort of own on the Nazis, especially non-Jewish people who did it in solidarity, for fuck's sake
― silby, Friday, 8 May 2020 23:09 (three years ago) link