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I want to train a neural network on Bob song titles but exclude "Your Cricket Is Rather Unique" and take bets on how long it takes the neural network to come up with "Your Cricket Is Rather Unique".

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 14:29 (four years ago) link

"Tiger on Top" is pretty fun! Otherwise Sweating the Plague feels like he's on autopilot so far.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link

Guitar player in my old band used to lighten the mood by launching into fake Pollard songs: “This one’s called Canadian Toothbrush Girls!” “This one’s called Umbrellas Go Viral!”

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 14:51 (four years ago) link

There are a lot of fake Pollard songs on this one.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link

His songwriting would be a lot more interesting to me at this point if he veered off of the rock music highway even periodically. I feel like he is very conservative in this way -- esp w choice of collaborators etc. Someone with as much energy as he has could be writing more ambitious music.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 15:11 (four years ago) link

But isn’t the lack of ambition sort of his thing?

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 16:02 (four years ago) link

Not that I was aware of? Back in the 80s he probably dreamed of this day if I’m to believe the stuff I’ve read. Now we are here.

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 16:09 (four years ago) link

I think his major ambition was to make a rock record that sounded like FM stuff he listened to growing up.

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 16:10 (four years ago) link

he did try that once or twice

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 March 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link

pretty sure "overloaded" is my OPO from '10s gbv. dunno what my pick would be when restricted to pollard songs
― ciderpress, Wednesday, March 4, 2020 1:59 PM (one week ago)

Same, I'd say this is the best GBV song 2010-2019.

My 2nd favorite is "Hang Up and Try Again." Class Clown Spots a UFO is probably the least-spotty LP from start to finish.

billstevejim, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link

I don't know, I don't really want him to show more ambition. Restraint, on the other hand...

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 17:17 (four years ago) link

But obviously from his standpoint it's more a question of reputation vs. steady income so ::shrug::

cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 March 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

So now that I've backtracked to Sweating the Plague and Warp and Woof and found them both rather meh, I'm that much more impressed with Surrender Your Poppy Field. Looking at the tracklisting of Zeppelin Over China and thinking maybe I'll hold off before diving into that thing.

I might need to give Space Gun a few more spins since everyone seemed to like it way more than I did, new one has definitely passed August by Cake in my personal rankings though. Will also add "Physician" to the list of essential tracks, that was a big grower for me.

cwkiii, Monday, 16 March 2020 15:22 (four years ago) link

I shudder to think how many new songs there will be in the next six months

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 29 March 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link

Alien Lanes getting vinyl reissue in the summer. It's 25 years old. I am so so old now.

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 29 March 2020 18:09 (four years ago) link

we are sweating the plague while doing isolation drills

reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 29 March 2020 18:11 (four years ago) link

half smiles of the decomposed under the bushes, under the stars

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 29 March 2020 18:15 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

There's a terrible action movie playing on the background on television at the moment and, every so often, I glance over at it to see Robert Pollard in it - except it's Tom Berenger and, if anything, Pollard looks even more like him now they're both ruddy faced, bloated and silver haired.

The Corbynite Maneuver (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2020 11:42 (four years ago) link

Pollard looks much less bloated for 62 than I ever would have thought, actually.

Chris L, Tuesday, 14 April 2020 12:20 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

I've been taking advantage of the lockdown to go through all of these records and give add'l listens to *all* the Fading Captain stuff and "side" stuff, solo records etc. gumming up my hard drive. Decades of getting numbed to the glut has really made me take this catalog for granted. It's pretty mindblowing, chaff be damned.

One thing that w/ time and a wider lens really jumps out: the current version of this band is fucking great, and every one of their now seven records save for maybe Sweating The Plague is better than every one of the seven preceding "reunion" records. You can hear how these guys respond Bob and encourage subtler and more dynamic writing on his part. And this last one is maybe the best of those, too?

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:49 (three years ago) link

Haha, I'm doing a similar chronological trip through Pollard's catalog. Up to Half Smiles of the Decomposed right this minute, which is a lot better than I'd remembered and has a killer first side.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 17:58 (three years ago) link

I had the same experience w/ that one...I found it totally unremarkable on release but there's a bunch of good stuff there

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 18:05 (three years ago) link

Is that so? Good to hear. I've only ever really been focused on the "classic" lineup and earlier because back then Bob (with Tobin) was so interested in experimenting... after that era is was just Bob striving to be the indie The Who. Every song became another mid-tempo big chord rocker... therefore only a few albums here and there stood out but all of it is so complacent in that formula. Even if done well it blends together. The experiments of the old days were like these little audio sketches and Bob's collages complimented them well in that regard; like these tiny little surreal worlds cut and paste together. And all the "throwaways" were at the very least palette cleansers and/or functioned as interludes to the bigger moments. Albums were like journeys through backroads where you see a lot of weird things pass by quickly and frequently, later albums just felt like taking the highway- a lot of the same with steady momentum.

Evan, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 18:06 (three years ago) link

My copy of that new Zeppelin Over Dayton album-by-album book is supposed to arrive tomorrow, and I just finally finished Closer You Are - so it's gonna be a Pollard summer around these parts.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 18:07 (three years ago) link

I have that in the mail, too.... Evan, there's been a lot more shorter/out stuff on the recent records

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 18:15 (three years ago) link

after that era is was just Bob striving to be the indie The Who. Every song became another mid-tempo big chord rocker...


I’m not sure I agree completely, I think especially post-TVT a lot of pollard’s songwriting becomes much less anthemic and more prone to weird pensive chords and moody obtuseness. Like the Volunteer Firemen album with Doug Gillard, the kinda of moods that he gets into there, that’s kind of the template for how I perceive his songwriting style now. idk.

brimstead, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 18:16 (three years ago) link

I'm actually looking forward to my revisit through the years between GbV. I'd almost forgotten just how many interesting projects he tossed off in that inter-zone - Keene Brothers with Tommy Keene, Mars Classroom with Gary Waleik from Big Dipper and Cosmos with Richard Davies. This was also the era when he started my very favorite side project band, Boston Spaceships.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 18:19 (three years ago) link

Fair! To clarify that was just my impression having not checked out every album beyond 1997. However I really like Earthquake Glue!

xp

Evan, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 18:20 (three years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/wu1uRKB.jpg

NIGHTMARE ON NEEDMORE

If anyone here is curious abt the more marginal/dark/lysergic stuff (or just interested in a distillation) I made this noise/psych/folk tape collage/soundscape incl. Acid Ranch, Circus Devils, Nightwalker, Howling Wolf Orchestra, Antler, Sunflower Logic, Teenage Guitar etc

It's loooong but good for dropping in anywhere in the middle, more of a damaged radio station... hmu!

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 18:24 (three years ago) link

GBV lol:
my partner tried to cheer me up by getting me that t-shirt from the time bob was in the paper for his no-hitter. unfortunately, it didn't come in any ladies' sizes or even a "small"

totally predictable SAD TROMBONE

i like that album w the Keene bros -- there's one song in particular that I LOOVED...can't remember what it's called...

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:07 (three years ago) link

I thought about ordering that t-shirt, but jeez talk about not so subtly reinforcing the idea that GBV is only beloved by dudes.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:08 (three years ago) link

"Death of the Party"!!!

She drives like an exodus
Slow to the steeple
And her touch is sad
The cold room is clean
And it's distant from people
But the bugs are bad

<3 <3 <3

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:09 (three years ago) link

the melody is so poignant + i like the lyrics a lot, they feel very classic bob to me

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:10 (three years ago) link

Oh yeah, that is a great one!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:15 (three years ago) link

Could go for a Spotify playlist of the best bits of the side projects!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:30 (three years ago) link

yes plz

Darin, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:34 (three years ago) link

Once I work my way through, maybe I'll try and throw one together!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:39 (three years ago) link

these Boston Spaceships songs belong on there: Let it Rest for a Little While, Bad Whiskey, Christmas Girl

oh and The Naked Wall and Island of Lost Lucys from that Keene Brothers album, those too

the burrito that defined a generation, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:44 (three years ago) link

One of the fun things about working my way back through all of these is picking up things like Bob having had the title for Zeppelin Over China as far back as "Thelonious Has Eaten All the Paper" back on the Circus Devils record from 2005.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:49 (three years ago) link

Also...Bobby Bare Jr is this band now?? weird

― The Desus & Mero Chain (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, July 10, 2018 4:08 PM (one year ago)


Just noticed this and thought the same thing.

Soft Mutation Machine (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 19:51 (three years ago) link

Haha, yeah, he joined in 2016 after the "classic lineup" split up again.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:00 (three years ago) link

Could go for a Spotify playlist of the best bits of the side projects!

ha, so I did that too

https://i.imgur.com/fdOXLdr.jpg

MILES OF CONCENTRATION

Again, this one's super-long but zero filler—111 tracks drawn from 52 records. Obviouslt not to be listened to in one sitting, again more like a radio station. The longer tracks are edited down so it flows more like an early GBV album...all segued and w/ some light EQing here and there

This covers non-GBV recordings since 2001... the solo records + Boston Spaceships / Carbon Whales / Keene Brothers / Cosmos / ESP Ohio / Airport 5 / Freedom Cruise / Lifeguards / Psycho and The BIrds / Mars Classroom / Phantom Tollbooth / The Takeovers etc... DM me if you'd like

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:22 (three years ago) link

Nice! Those both sound absolutely killer.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:26 (three years ago) link

Thank you!!!

Darin, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:29 (three years ago) link

I remember listening to a Tommy Keene track off of The Merry-Go-Round Broke Down... I think it was the epic "The Final Hour" song and thinking how cool it would be if Pollard collaborated with him... THEN found out they already had? It blew my mind a little.

Evan, Wednesday, 17 June 2020 20:50 (three years ago) link

DM'd you Hadrian! My big Pollard blind spot is pretty much the 10-year period after the 2004 breakup, and the idea of going back to see what I missed has been intimidating, so this playlist sounds like exactly what I need.

Anyone else doing the Hot Freaks subscription service? I signed up a couple days ago and I've been catching up on the stuff that was sent out over the past several weeks. Most interesting thing for me so far has been the Do the Collapse demos. 20+ tracks of Doug working out his lead parts over Bob's acoustic demos, occasionally adding full-band arrangements. Hearing the songs stripped down like this makes me feel like Bob was really at a high point in terms of pure pop songwriting around this time. Just lovely, interesting chord progression and melodies all over the place. Apparently Ocasek made the call to drop some of this stuff and Bob came up with a few proggier things ("Liquid Indian," etc.) at his request. Most of the scrapped tracks ended up on the Hold On Hope EP (which is fantastic).

On top of that, Speak Kindly of Your Volunteer Fire Department came out a few months after DtC, with some of the best pop songs Pollard's ever written. I don't know how "Pop Zeus" hasn't remained a live staple since those days.

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Thursday, 18 June 2020 00:29 (three years ago) link

I'm tempted but yikes at $100...and just as I'm finally getting my arms around these 2,500 or whatever songs

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 June 2020 01:50 (three years ago) link

I shld add that above "side project" mix^ has a smattering of reunion-era GBV, only cuz on review I didn't feel those records merited their own mix, but whatever it's all Bob

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 18 June 2020 01:58 (three years ago) link

Speak Kindly is easily ni my top 5 gbv/gbv-related LPs.

Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Thursday, 18 June 2020 09:55 (three years ago) link

the Freedom Cruise project is just one song or is it more?

Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Thursday, 18 June 2020 13:50 (three years ago) link


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