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His critique of Sanpaku is broadly correct though. Probably shouldn’t be “banned,” but liberal freedoms were hard won and shouldn’t be thrown over at the first sign of trouble.

treeship., Monday, 9 March 2020 00:12 (two months ago) link

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treeship., Monday, 9 March 2020 00:13 (two months ago) link

'I'll kick you in the balls, Nazi fucking freak' is not 'broadly correct'. Ffs treeship, you're better than this.

Frederik B, Monday, 9 March 2020 00:16 (two months ago) link

Idk what do you do to Nazi freaks, Fred?

college bong rip guy (silby), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:20 (two months ago) link

He was set off because he knows who would be in trouble if society went authoritarian, maybe especially “for the good of public health.” I actually agree with what Mordy said on that thread—there is an interesting academic discussion to be had about the potential pitfalls of democracy, but not on the pandemic thread. It seemed opportunistic.

treeship., Monday, 9 March 2020 00:21 (two months ago) link

We can all be 'set off' by stuff, but when a poster is breaking down like in the posts I quoted (seriously, they're from a twenty minute span) then the problem isn't whoever set it off. Silby needs a break.

Frederik B, Monday, 9 March 2020 00:27 (two months ago) link

I have to say I appreciate Sanpaku for bringing some texture and variety to things around here. I find his posts amusing at worst but never boring, and I don't really care if his posts are factually accurate (though I suspect that by and large they are) because I'm not, like, legislating or anything.

Also I'm not so suggestible that I want to pull on a hazmat suit or buy gold or whatever after reading one. My main thought is usually, "Oh, Sanpaku."

Webcam Du Bois (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:28 (two months ago) link

If people feel like there are nazi undercurrents to a certain poster’s logic, i don’t want to tone police their response

treeship., Monday, 9 March 2020 00:28 (two months ago) link

that's insane

Frederik B, Monday, 9 March 2020 00:29 (two months ago) link

I think we should talk stuff out—argue it out

treeship., Monday, 9 March 2020 00:31 (two months ago) link

seriously treeship, you're just going to be completely fine with every response, threats, harassment, abuse, as long as whatever does it claims that he thinks the other poster is a nazi?

Frederik B, Monday, 9 March 2020 00:32 (two months ago) link

Like, don't give the trolls any ideas, dude

Frederik B, Monday, 9 March 2020 00:33 (two months ago) link

I think each case is different. We know silby and should give him the benefit of the doubt. He’s upset for a reason, not just to troll

treeship., Monday, 9 March 2020 00:33 (two months ago) link

Uncritically posting something from Quillete means I’m never going to take anything the guy posts seriously, but we should engage our critical faculties on anything anyone posts; especially anyone making claims of expertise or posting in jargon.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:34 (two months ago) link

frankly offensive to call me a troll, Fred

college bong rip guy (silby), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:35 (two months ago) link

I don’t think sanpaku is a nazi fwiw but i also don’t think there is *nothing* behind silby’s charges. We need to let them fight it out

treeship., Monday, 9 March 2020 00:35 (two months ago) link

Hadrian VIII otm.

Lipstick Traces (on a Cigarette Alone) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:37 (two months ago) link

I wasn't referring to you there, silby, lol.

Frederik B, Monday, 9 March 2020 00:37 (two months ago) link

…withdrawn.

college bong rip guy (silby), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:38 (two months ago) link

And it's exactly to create an environment where arguments can be 'fought out' that there needs to be a clampdown on harassment, bullying, abuse. And literal threats of violence should be a pretty fucking no go.

Frederik B, Monday, 9 March 2020 00:38 (two months ago) link

Quillette is a threat of violence

college bong rip guy (silby), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:38 (two months ago) link

Nah. But it's a sign for me to never ever again read what a poster posts, yeah.

Frederik B, Monday, 9 March 2020 00:39 (two months ago) link

"learn to use killfile" good advice for more than one poster itt

bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:52 (two months ago) link

I'll killfile people on web when it's built into the software and not a userscript, I don't even know if there's a good way to use userscripts in safari these days

college bong rip guy (silby), Monday, 9 March 2020 00:54 (two months ago) link

Sanpaku has precisely one interest, which is monitoring global instability and disaster for his maximum possible advantage. Because he evidently has nothing actually going on in his life and can’t be a disaster capitalist himself, he contents himself by acting like a very wise scientist on an unpopular messageboard and speculating on how things would go better if we simply solved more problems by rounding people up and putting them into camps. His regard for human life is based entirely on a perverse utilitarian worldview where the existence of the maximum amount of humans for the maximum amount of time is the greatest good and no other considerations, ideals, human feeling, etc can possibly register to him as having value. Because he is ignorant, he credulously links to alarmist headlines calling covid “a combination of SARS and AIDS” on flimsy and idiotic pretexts and cites obvious charlatans nobody else pays any heed to as his major sources of news. Linking to Quillette, famous of late for being a hate rag and sponsoring the “journalistic” activities of agent provocateur Andy Ngo is the last straw, he’s either too stupid to know how dangerous his stupidity is or he’s actively involved in loathsome enterprises for his own enrichment and ends. Fuck Sanpaku and the horse he rode in on.

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college bong rip guy (silby), Monday, 9 March 2020 02:14 (two months ago) link

Banpaku

sorry for butt rockin (Neanderthal), Monday, 9 March 2020 02:39 (two months ago) link


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